Re: Interested in your device
To Donald
Thank you for this useful tip and if? I have done the tip correctly then the tip will follow/lead this reply from David? Call sign M0NOY in South London UK
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 16:27, Donald Hellen < donhellen@...> wrote: David . . .
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 16:14:51 +0100, "david" <deckchairmail@...>
wrote:
>I am a full UK licence holder? (? Call sign? ?M0NOY ) and am following up the following posting in the Baofeng ? ? Unfortunately I seem to have selected the wrong person for my inquiry so I will start again....INITIAL POSTING FOLLOWS...
Not a problem.
It's always best to quote part of the original message to give
everyone some context. What was confusing was that the subject line
was even different from the original poster's about the Bluetooth
programmer (which sounds like an interesting device).
You can quote part of the original message on the group site
by selecting text in the original message then clicking reply, and
that selected text only ends up in the reply.
You should be able to do that in your email interface or program but
how you do it may be different between providers or programs. I just
select text in mine (like it works in the group web interface) and
click reply in my email program and it quotes only what I selected.
(When using my phone, however, it's a lot more complicated and I often
just quote the entire message if it's not a long one or full of
replies. It's not easy to delete out parts of the previous post in my
Android email program.)
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM? ?/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Re: Interested in your device
David . . . On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 16:14:51 +0100, "david" <deckchairmail@...> wrote: I am a full UK licence holder ( Call sign M0NOY ) and am following up the following posting in the Baofeng group.io Unfortunately I seem to have selected the wrong person for my inquiry so I will start again....INITIAL POSTING FOLLOWS... Not a problem. It's always best to quote part of the original message to give everyone some context. What was confusing was that the subject line was even different from the original poster's about the Bluetooth programmer (which sounds like an interesting device). You can quote part of the original message on the groups.io group site by selecting text in the original message then clicking reply, and that selected text only ends up in the reply. You should be able to do that in your email interface or program but how you do it may be different between providers or programs. I just select text in mine (like it works in the group web interface) and click reply in my email program and it quotes only what I selected. (When using my phone, however, it's a lot more complicated and I often just quote the entire message if it's not a long one or full of replies. It's not easy to delete out parts of the previous post in my Android email program.) Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Re: Interested in your device
Greetings to all members...
I am a full UK licence holder? (? Call sign?? M0NOY ) and am following up the following posting in the Baofeng ??? Unfortunately I seem to have selected the wrong person for my inquiry so I will start again.... INITIAL POSTING FOLLOWS...
| Sat, 28 Aug, 22:44 (16 hours ago)
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to Baofeng
| Rodney kraft via |
| Sat, 28 Aug, 22:44 (16 hours ago) |
I just received my BL-1 Bluetooth programmer and so far it works great!
I¡¯m going to play with it for the next month and put it through its paces, but I LIKE what I¡¯ve seen so far.
? For those who don¡¯t know, this devices allows you to program a handheld
radio (only 17 types so far, but the UV-5R is one of them) without a
computer or cable! It works via Bluetooth. ****
So you can use Android, iPhone, iPad¡ but NO computer or cables.
I was actually able to read my BF-3R tri-band (a UV-5R with the firmware
that allows you to expand the VHF range to allow operation in the 1.25
meter band!
Will let you all know how it works out!
Rod
KC7CJO
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 END OF ORIGINAL POSTING
***? This is the Ability ? I am? mainly interested in as in the UK there are a lot of fake programming? cables? for Baofeng (and their? look-alikes) for sale.? I would hope that KC7CJO reads this reply.? .?? To the other person to whom I wrongly addressed? my quiry I offer my apologies and I quite understand?? why you sent your reply to myself.
And now my query for? Rodney.???? I would like enough detail to? enable me to order this device via the internet.? A brief query via the Search Bar in GOOGLE for??
BL-1 Bluetooth programmer turned up no useful? information which just mean? that this device or program is maybe a private or? radio club project.?? I am a member of my local radio club (Located in South London) called "Cray Valley Radio Society"?? and our WEB? site is??
Thank you? to anyone who can? supply any more information.
Regards and 73's????? David??? M0NOY
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 14:49, Donald Hellen < donhellen@...> wrote: David . . .
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 06:54:28 +0100, "david" <deckchairmail@...>
wrote:
>Hi
>
>Could you give some public details of the site/seller? that you used? to
>obtain this device? please...
Which device in particular are you asking about? You are asking a
question but are not very specific in your details.
>
>I AM A FULL LICENSED? ham based in the UK near London
>
>Thank you? ? ?and 73's? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? David
If you're a licensed ham, please add your call sign at the end of your
messages. You are not required to be a licensed ham (we can't control
that) but it's a courtesy in our ham related groups to add that if you
are a ham operator.
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM? ?/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Re: Interested in your device
David . . . On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 06:54:28 +0100, "david" <deckchairmail@...> wrote: Hi
Could you give some public details of the site/seller that you used to
obtain this device please... Which device in particular are you asking about? You are asking a question but are not very specific in your details.
I AM A FULL LICENSED ham based in the UK near London
Thank you and 73's David
If you're a licensed ham, please add your call sign at the end of your messages. You are not required to be a licensed ham (we can't control that) but it's a courtesy in our ham related groups to add that if you are a ham operator. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Interested in your device
Hi
Could you give some public details of the site/seller? that you used? to obtain this device? please...
I AM A FULL LICENSED? ham based in the UK near London
Thank you???? and 73's??????????????????? David?
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TIDRADIO BL-1. Bluetooth programmer
Folks,
I just received my BL-1 Bluetooth programmer and so far it works great!
I¡¯m going to play with it for the next month and put it through its paces, but I LIKE what I¡¯ve seen so far.
For those who don¡¯t know, this devices allows you to program a handheld radio (only 17 types so far, but the UV-5R is one of them) without a computer or cable! It works via Bluetooth.
So you can use Android, iPhone, iPad¡ but NO computer or cables.
I was actually able to read my BF-3R tri-band (a UV-5R with the firmware that allows you to expand the VHF range to allow operation in the 1.25 meter band!
Will let you all know how it works out!
Rod
KC7CJO
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
On 8/23/2021 1:58 PM, John Button G8JMB
via groups.io wrote:
Hi Dale
Thanks for the pics- very similar to the CH-8 I have, except that
my case snaps together.? I got it apart with difficulty, I think
that the circuit is the same, but the pcb is a different shape,
smaller, with the battery contacts wired on. I've attached what I
think is the cct for both.
73
John G8JMB
I haven't opened it again but both of my chargers use screws
instead of snapping together.
Of course I've had mine for at least 5 years, maybe longer.
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All the Best & 7 3s
Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Cookeville, Tennessee
Putnam County TN ARES
Emergency Coordinator
Vice President Cookeville Repeater Association
Ham Operator since 1997 (Extra)
stpatrick2@...
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Registered Ubuntu User #26423
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
Hi Dale Thanks for the pics- very similar to the CH-8 I have, except that my case snaps together.? I got it apart with difficulty, I think that the circuit  is the same, but the pcb is a different shape, smaller, with the battery contacts wired on. I've attached what I think is the cct for both. 73 John G8JMB
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
On 8/21/2021 5:38 PM, John Button G8JMB
via groups.io wrote:
hI rOD
Radio is marked
HESENATE which I believe is just badge engineering
Model HE-UV82
I found a circuit for the UV5R charger that is based on a SC6038
controller. Looks like the charger base? that I have. SC6038 data
sheet? gives max input 18V, max current 1A but no spec for max
power dissipation. Not helpful. As it's a?SOP-8L chip, I guess the
Pmax is too low to run of > 10V input at the charge current
used.
If the charger base [the bit the radio sits in] will only take 10V
looks like I'll have to make a 12V lead for it.
50 years of junk, I should be able to find the bits!???Small order
buying from the USA is not practical in the uk- disproportionate
handling ransom ,tax etc.? And when the radio was free, my
Yorkshire logic says don't spend ??? on bits for it if you don't
have to..
73 John G8JMB
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Here is are pictures of the CH-8 Charger for the UV-82
Here are pictures of the CH-B Charger that came with the UV-B5
If anyone wants to upload these to the Files or photo section go
ahead. I tried to upload them but apparently I don't have those
privileges.
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All the Best & 7 3s
Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Cookeville, Tennessee
Putnam County TN ARES
Emergency Coordinator
Vice President Cookeville Repeater Association
Ham Operator since 1997 (Extra)
stpatrick2@...
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Registered Ubuntu User #26423
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
<<My Baofeng DM-1801 DMR radio charger (CH1801) uses the exact SC6038 circuit.
...?
The CH1801 came with a 10vdc supply.?? I tried it with a 12vdc and it appeared
to work but I only left it running for a couple minutes.
I would look up the chip on the web and get the specs.>>
Hi Ken
I got the 6038 data already - 10 pages but no max power dissipation info nor thermal resistance junction to case...I' ll play safe and keep the input to 10V
?
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I don't need a 10V output AC supply, I can always use a bench psu.
i'LL MAKE A 12v LEAD WITH 10v OUTPUT.
nOTE? Gxxxx, Mxxxx, 2E0xxx call signs are UK
73
John G8JMB
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Doug . . . On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 00:12:57 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote: Hello Group,
Another solution for a 10VDC supply is to use a DC-DC converter, connect it to 13.8V shack supply and adj the converter to 10V. You can pick these converters up from China for only a few dollars each. They do work if you don't get them close to their rated output. I used one to try to get some cells in a 40V battery pack back to life. While my plans didn't work out, it did put out 40V (I think it was rated to be able to put out a lot higher voltage). I dialed in the voltage with the tiny screw potentiometer. I think there was even a current limiter pot. It wasn't expensive, as you said. But since there are ready made AC adapters that put out 10V, I would think using one of them would be less trouble than fixing up something to work from various parts. Not that this idea is a bad one, but with other, easier options, it might not be what the OP might want to do. Of course, he will have to choose the solution and it doesn't matter which route he takes as long as he solves the problem. I do think it's a shame that lots of the newer electronics don't have readily available schematics. That may change in time if the governments implement a right to repair law that includes readily available circuit diagrams. But who knows if it will happen (some states have some laws in effect now) and if it will include everything we'd like to see. I'm not wanting to get into a political discussion here so let's be careful on further discussion of laws. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
My Baofeng DM-1801 DMR radio charger (CH1801) uses the exact SC6038 circuit.
On the IC I could make out HXN-WS.? I could not make out the rest of
the info on the chip.? I traced out the circuit and its exactly what I am finding for
the SC6038.?? The spec sheet calls for a 9-12vdc input.??
The CH1801 came with a 10vdc supply.?? I tried it with a 12vdc and it appeared
to work but I only left it running for a couple minutes.
I would look up the chip on the web and get the specs.
Ken
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Hello Group,
Another solution for a 10VDC supply is to use a DC-DC converter, connect it to 13.8V shack supply and adj the converter to 10V. You can pick these converters up from China for only a few dollars each. Here is an example below....
I had to do this with a battery eliminator for my UV-5R, as the one inside the unit was under engineered and had a meltdown literally. I adj the DC output of the converter to 7.4V as it was connecting directly to the radio.
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Hello everyone
Does anyone have a schematic for the UV-6 charger supplied with the UV-82?
Can I run the charger off a nominal 12VDC supply?
73
John G8JMB
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The chargers for pretty much all Baofeng radios use a power adapter with the following specs: 10 volts DC, .5 Amps(500 Ma), center + one model number to look for: 480-10050-E.S And yes, It sounds like your radio is a rebadged Baofeng UV-82.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 6:57 PM Donald Hellen < donhellen@...> wrote: John . . .
On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:10:47 -0700, "John Button G8JMB via "
<hornpipe112=[email protected]> wrote:
>I'd open it? if I could - case looks welded shut or has hidden clips.? Bottom of charger says 'input 10VDC' but no AC adaptor came with the radio.? I charged it using a bench psu, but that's no good on the boat...
Here you go.
Just find the right barrel connector and solder it to the leads of
this.
$6.65 + free shipping.
Radio Shack 10 Volt DC 850 MA AC Adapter Cat. No. 273-1614 input
120vac #01
Good for 850 MA, which is probably enough, but there are others good
to 2A for less than $10:
10V 2A AC-DC Adapter For Philips golite HF3332 HF3331 Charger Power
Supply PSU
$9.05 + free shipping
Myself, if I wasn't sure about the current draw of the charging base,
I'd buy the 2A power supply for just a few dollars more. And consider
if it's not taxed to the limit supplying current to the charging base,
it will probably last a lot longer.
It's not worth making your own supply when they're this cheap, unless
you want to make a RFI-shielded power supply. Since you can control
when you're charging the radio's battery, a little RFI might not be an
issue. Just don't charge the battery while you're on HF.
The hardest part here will be to find a barrel connector that fits.
But if you have an unused old power adapter with the right connector,
cut off the wire and solder the wires to the one you just bought,
observing polarity, of course. Usually a small white stripe indicates
positive, but I would test it before you do the soldering to make it
final. If in doubt, the center of the barrel connector is almost
always positive. NOT always, just ALMOST always. Your charging base
should indicate the socket polarity. You probably know this, but we
have a lot of inexperienced new hams who memorized their way to the
amateur radio license exam (instead of learning the actual theory) and
I don't want to assume anything.
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM? ?/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
John, I didn't know you were in the UK. This is from www.ebay.co.uk and I believe that these have a UK plug: Replacement for 10V 2.0A AC/DC Switching Adapter OH-1018A1002000U-UK iMM173 Price: ?13.99 Postage: ?15.00 Express delivery but this one is a better price if 1 amp will work for you: New 10V 1A 1000mA Switching Power Supply adapter AC 100V-240V DC 5.5mm UK Price: ?3.09 Postage: ?4.00 Standard Delivery There may be others. Here's my search (long link): You may tweak the search for better results. I just found two quickly that might work. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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John . . . On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:10:47 -0700, "John Button G8JMB via groups.io" <hornpipe112@...> wrote: I'd open it if I could - case looks welded shut or has hidden clips. Bottom of charger says 'input 10VDC' but no AC adaptor came with the radio. I charged it using a bench psu, but that's no good on the boat... Here you go. Just find the right barrel connector and solder it to the leads of this. $6.65 + free shipping. Radio Shack 10 Volt DC 850 MA AC Adapter Cat. No. 273-1614 input 120vac #01 Good for 850 MA, which is probably enough, but there are others good to 2A for less than $10: 10V 2A AC-DC Adapter For Philips golite HF3332 HF3331 Charger Power Supply PSU $9.05 + free shipping Myself, if I wasn't sure about the current draw of the charging base, I'd buy the 2A power supply for just a few dollars more. And consider if it's not taxed to the limit supplying current to the charging base, it will probably last a lot longer. It's not worth making your own supply when they're this cheap, unless you want to make a RFI-shielded power supply. Since you can control when you're charging the radio's battery, a little RFI might not be an issue. Just don't charge the battery while you're on HF. The hardest part here will be to find a barrel connector that fits. But if you have an unused old power adapter with the right connector, cut off the wire and solder the wires to the one you just bought, observing polarity, of course. Usually a small white stripe indicates positive, but I would test it before you do the soldering to make it final. If in doubt, the center of the barrel connector is almost always positive. NOT always, just ALMOST always. Your charging base should indicate the socket polarity. You probably know this, but we have a lot of inexperienced new hams who memorized their way to the amateur radio license exam (instead of learning the actual theory) and I don't want to assume anything. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
hI rOD
Radio is marked
HESENATE which I believe is just badge engineering
Model HE-UV82
I found a circuit for the UV5R charger that is based on a SC6038 controller. Looks like the charger base? that I have. SC6038 data sheet? gives max input 18V, max current 1A but no spec for max power dissipation. Not helpful. As it's a?SOP-8L chip, I guess the Pmax is too low to run of > 10V input at the charge current used.
If the charger base [the bit the radio sits in] will only take 10V looks like I'll have to make a 12V lead for it.
50 years of junk, I should be able to find the bits!???Small order buying from the USA is not practical in the uk- disproportionate handling ransom ,tax etc.? And when the radio was free, my Yorkshire logic says don't spend ??? on bits for it if you don't have to..
73 John G8JMB
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Re: CH-8 charger -was UV-82, CH-6 charger
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Until you find your 10Vdc, start by assuming 14v from your 13.5 -13.8 V auto socket, worst case... add 6, "0.65" V-drop 1A or 3A diodes.
An old school auto charger can kick out 15-18Vdc, unloaded, so careful, there.
You could use 2 LM7805's on a "12Vdc" charger... doorbell Xfmr or such. Or, buy a dc-dc.
BillSF9c
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John . . . On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:10:47 -0700, "John Button G8JMB via groups.io" <hornpipe112@...> wrote: I'd open it if I could - case looks welded shut or has hidden clips. Bottom of charger says 'input 10VDC' but no AC adaptor came with the radio. I charged it using a bench psu, but that's no good on the boat... Find a wall wart that fits the socket on the charger base. You might have to find a wall wart first then find a plug that fits, and solder it to the wiring from the wall wart. 10V isn't a common voltage though for wall warts. Even the adjustable types skip over 10V and go from 9V to 12V, or may include 10.5V but that's higher than you want. You could roll your own power supply if you wanted but it would be bigger than a wall wart. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Dale Miller - KC2CBD
Doug J