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Elliot,
I would consider any dietary instructions by Dr. Budwig as a rule.
She had her reasons why she laid out the protocol out exactly as she did.
Why don't we just take the easy way and go by what Dr.Budwig has said
rather than add our wrinkles?

Let's consider the Müsli breakfast for example:

3 tblsp FO
plus 6 tblsp CC
plus milk for thinning
plus 4 tblsp flax meal
plus fruit
plus nuts

That is all I can eat in one sitting,
so why even consider whether we could eat all fo/cc at once?

Wilhelm



Thank you, Wilhelm.

But is that a strict rule? Is it possible to take it all at one time in
the morning or in the afternoon, for that matter, and still get the
same benefit?

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Jim, making soured cabbage juice is so quick and easy that there is
never a good reason to run out of it. Check the files for the recipe.
It takes 3 days the first time to make the juice, but after that,
because you use some of the original soured cabbage juice, you can have
a new batch ready in 24 hours.

I started about a gallon-and-a-half of soured cabbage juice early this
afternoon. It will be ready by Friday or Saturday, and after that, I
don't expect to allow myself to run out again.

I am convinced, from all I've read, that drinking 8 to 16 ounces of
soured cabbage juice daily is one of the best AND cheapest things a
person can do for generaly health and for protection from cancer or to
help fight cancer.

Elliot

Dr. Budwig emphasized the importance of always eating the fo/cc and
ground flaxseeds as soon as they are prepared, as they can lose their
energetic value. The exposure to air negates the healing quality very
rapidly.
Make just enough to eat at the time, finish it off. And for the next
meal, make a fresh batch if you want to receive the healing value that
Dr. Budwig discussed. Otherwise, it may not be doing any healing work
for your cells.
The electrons in the oil have to be protected from exposure to air.
That's why the oil comes in a thick dark container and why the seeds
have a hard protective cover.

Sandra

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "TUNA BELLA" <tunabella@y...>
wrote:

Hi, Elliott,
I make my FO/CC concoction in the morning to eat with my meusli

but keep some for an

afternoon snack. This morning I added mixed frozen berries to the

FO/CC which I put on my

breakfast cereal which was linomel, porridge made of whole wheat

and oat bran and raisins. I

had some left over porrdge which I will eat cold with some

concoction pour over it around three

after my nap. Charles

Thank you, Wilhelm.

But is that a strict rule? Is it possible to take it all at one time in
the morning or in the afternoon, for that matter, and still get the
same benefit?

Carol,
Use a measuring Tbsp. and not a tableware Tbsp. The measuring spoon holds 15 ml, the tableware one 10 ml, that is a big difference. As long as the FO is blended with CC you will not get too much. I would go to 6 FO a day. Also be sure you are using the hand held blender (easier to use and clean) than a large counter top. A hand held mixer in my experience did not blend well enough to keep the oil from separating from the CC. I discovered this when I kept part of a batch to take later in the day. Bob Smith rresmith@...

Hi! I am 36 and in chemo for breast cancer and very scared going forward. I can embrace much of what I have read about Dr. Budwig's protocol except I am scared to eat dairy products.

Hi Vanessa,
dairy is part of the Budwig Protocol. It looks to me that you want to do the Budwig Protocol. In that case please read our files to find out more about it. Pay special attention to the ground flaxseeds (Linomel) that are part of this protocol. They have special significance in breast cancer cases.

I have been good about the flax oil, but I have always been good about getting good oils and having a reasonably good organic vegetable rich diet.

Taking flax oil by itself (without it being mixed with cottage cheese) is not the answer. It can work against you. Dr. Budwig said so.

I was diagnosed while nursing my son and had nodal involvement. As the chemo draws to an end (thank goodness) I am realizing I don't want to do radiation or have a bilateral mastectomy.
I want to beat this and be extremely agressive, I just don't want to be messed with anymore surgeons and machines.

That is perfectly understandable. What I cannot understand is that you were less concerned about taking chemo into your body than you are about eating dairy. The only explanation that I can up with is that you are/were uninformed in both instances.

so anyhow -since i was nursing when diagnosed too, i have really developed a fear of milk and dairy products, which, organic or not are ruined in processing and full of cow hormones.

IMO, the value of the fo/cc mixture far outweighs any negative effects of dairy. It sounds as though you have been listening too much to the no-dairy lobbyists.
If you want to do the Budwig Protocol, get the best cottage cheese or quark you can, or make your own. Get organic dairy if you can, and then stop worrying about it. Worry it is bad for you.

I REALLY REALLY want to be oxygenated. are there substitutes for the cottage cheese?

No, you need to get over your no-dairy fears.

Is the flaxseed oil in he fridge section at Whole Foods adequate?

No, it needs to be mixed with dairy as it says in our files.

Best wishes for better health to you,

Wilhelm

There seems to be agreement that CC needs thinning, especially to make a shake. Milk is
the most frequent suggestion although water has also been mentioned. Since I make my
own CC I have a lot of whey, and it seems logical to add that, which I do since it contains
some soured protein and other nutrients. How would it compare with milk in nutricianal
value?

Is it likely Dr.Budwig would have recommended 8 oz of sauerkraut juice morning and
evening? That is a lot of juice. My home-made kraut goes dry drinking only a quarter of a
cup, or less, just in the morning.

thanks,

jim

Elliot,

Did you add the whole leaf?

If you did that is incorrect. You only put the internal juice in. However ,
the way I have is that I buy a bottle of Aloe vera juice from the health
food shop and have 40ml before food 2-3 x a day. Don't mix it in the juice,
it should be taken on its own.

Anna

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "W. Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote:

Elliot...
it is in the files... directly from Dr.Budwig to you.
3 tblsp FO in your morning Müsli fo/cc, the rest at lunch.
None at night except what is consumed in Oleolux.

Wilhelm


Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: How much FO/CC?-Cliff, is it important to space the flax oil out

throughout the day, or can I take it all at once at one sitting. I am
thinking it is probably much better to space it out, but it would be
convenient to eat it all at one time. Thanks for any help on this.

Elliot

Hi, Elliott,
I make my FO/CC concoction in the morning to eat with my meusli but keep some for an
afternoon snack. This morning I added mixed frozen berries to the FO/CC which I put on my
breakfast cereal which was linomel, porridge made of whole wheat and oat bran and raisins. I
had some left over porrdge which I will eat cold with some concoction pour over it around three
after my nap. Charles

Elliot...
it is in the files... directly from Dr.Budwig to you.
3 tblsp FO in your morning Müsli fo/cc, the rest at lunch.
None at night except what is consumed in Oleolux.

Wilhelm


Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: How much FO/CC?-Cliff, is it important to space the flax oil out

throughout the day, or can I take it all at once at one sitting. I am
thinking it is probably much better to space it out, but it would be
convenient to eat it all at one time. Thanks for any help on this.

Elliot

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throughout the day, or can I take it all at once at one sitting. I am
thinking it is probably much better to space it out, but it would be
convenient to eat it all at one time. Thanks for any help on this.

Elliot

Hi, Kathryn.

Great stuff! Thanks for all the info about how you stay with the diet
while traveling. About going to the chiropractor and putting a rolled-
up something behind your back---it is a sad thing that car
manufacturers still are not paying attention to real back and neck
support. I happen to have a Volvo stationwagon, and Volvo does indeed
pay attention to such things. The neck support in my car is so close to
me that it just about touches the back of my head, and I the seat gives
me support from the top of my neck all the way down to my waist.

Best wishes,

Elliot

Hi, all.

I read on the internet that one should "add a little fresh aloe vera
leaf when juicing." I did so today. I added a piece of leaf that was
about 5 inches long and an inch wide. It completely ruined the juice.
Not only did it turn the juice as bitter as heroin, but it also turned
into green SLIME! I had to pour the juice down the drain. I'm glad I
recently started juicing only about 8 ounces at a time. Whoever
supposes it is a good idea to add fresh aloe leaf juice to the mix when
juicing---I would like to know how they manage to drink it without
throwing up. SERIOUSLY!

hi Cliff,

Thank you. I hadn't read about the fo/weight relationship. I weight
125 lbs, and have been taking the 2 tablespoons a day, but yesterday
increased to 3, adding one more dose of fo/cc with my dinner.

Carol





--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@f...>
wrote:

How much fo/cc do you take and how often?

**
Hi,

This is somewhat weight related. Dr. Budwig said that one

tablespoon of flaxseed oil per day per 100 lbs. body weight was
needed for maintanence of general good health.

Then more would be needed to fight cancer. If a person weighed 200

lbs. at least 4 tablespoons a day might be suggested. If the cancer
were severe, it may need more than that. It seems to me that there
is no exaaact answer.

I weigh around 212 lbs. and am currently using 5 tablespoons of FO a

day.

Cliff

Thanks, Elliot.

I did get the cookbook. I've been trying to do some of the recipes in
the book, but I wasn't sure how much of everything I should be trying
to eat.

Is there somewhere in the book where it talks about how much to take?
I've been really looking, but can't find where it states dosages of
the mixture. I got another book that talked about the Budwig protocol
and it said the 2 tblsp a day, and I too thought that was pretty low.

I'm reading so much that I'm finding it difficult to read anymore, but
I know I have to find out more about what to do. There's just so much
going on right now...with my own cancer, and my cat's oral cancer, and
now my sister's husband has stomach cancer just diagnosed... I'm
really running on empty.

Thanks again.

Carol

hi Syd,


I'm still learning all this too, but from what I've read, if you're
buying the actual Linomel product, the honey in it acts as sort of a
preservative and you keep it in the fridge, but I'm not sure for how
long. Maybe someone else can let us know.

When you grind your own flax seeds, you should only grind as much as
you're going to eat right away. Two of my books say that, so that's
what I've been doing, just grinding for each meal. I don't add the
honey, I just sprinkle the ground flax on whatever I'm eating, oatmeal
or raw mueseli, smoothies or on top of a salad that I made my dressing
for with the fo/cc mixture.

Carol

What about flax seed oil's estrogenic properties? any reason that would be a
negative for estrogen positive, premenopausal breast cancer patient?

THank you!

vanessa

Carol R. wrote:

hi everyone,

Can anyone please tell me how much and how often you take the fo/cc?
I haven't had anyone write me back since my last post. I've read all
the files in the archives and there are many different "recipes".
Is 1 tablespoon FO to 2 tablespoons CC twice a day sufficient?

Do you eat other foods with it or just the fo/cc alone as a meal?

I really could use some help.

thanks again,
Carol



--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Carol R." <carolroars@h...>

I'm really confused about how much fo/cc to take each day. The book
talks about much larger portions of fo/cc and grated seeds than what
it seems most are doing.

I'm taking 1 tablespoon of FO to 2 tablespoons of cottage cheese

with the little bit of juice and/or fruit, and do that twice a day,
morning and afternoon.

But what about the rest of the diet? Do you all do that diet the way
it says in the book, or do you just eat your regular healthy diet

and add the fo/cc?

I just feel like I'm not doing this right. I've read so many

different versions of this diet and all the information is so
overwhelming.

How much fo/cc do you take and how often?

**
Hi,

This is somewhat weight related. Dr. Budwig said that one tablespoon of flaxseed oil per day per 100 lbs. body weight was needed for maintanence of general good health.

Then more would be needed to fight cancer. If a person weighed 200 lbs. at least 4 tablespoons a day might be suggested. If the cancer were severe, it may need more than that. It seems to me that there is no exaaact answer. I weigh around 212 lbs. and am currently using 5 tablespoons of FO a day.

Cliff

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Hello,

My husband and I love to take cruises, as well as other types
of travel, which we do often.

Whenever I go on a cruise I take my Braun hand blender, a
large plastic cup (into which the end of the blender will fit), some
maple syrup, some pumpkin pie spice. Then, when the room
steward comes to meet us and asks us what special requests we
have, I tell him/her to make sure that each night there is one cup
of low-fat cottage cheese and a banana in our room. The
cruise lines pride themselves on being accommodating, and they
are. I bring my oil with me and keep it in the refrigerator which
is in my cabin. This way I can always have my fso/cc mixture,
even while traveling.

When I used to drive cross country frequently, I never carried
anything to drink (I didnt want to have to stop for potty-breaks
in between gas stops), so I always took fresh cabbage, snap peas,
and celery with me. It gave me sustenance, as well as water. It
was cool and refreshing, and crunching on it made it easier to stay awake.
Then I could just use the bathroom whenever I stopped for
gas. (I was really into seeing what good time I could make and
gas mileage too). Also, be sure to use a pillow in the small
of your back (lumbar region) when you are travelling. I used
to always visit a chiropractor right after a trip, until a friend told
me about supporting my back. If I dont have my small lumbar
cushion, I just roll up my jacket or a sweater and stuff it behind me.
Makes a BIG difference.


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I thought I have heard that the leaf is toxic. It is only the inside gel
which is to be consumed from what I understand.

Maria





Hi, all.

I read on the internet that one should "add a little fresh aloe vera
leaf when juicing." I did so today. I added a piece of leaf that was
about 5 inches long and an inch wide. It completely ruined the juice.
Not only did it turn the juice as bitter as heroin, but it also turned
into green SLIME! I had to pour the juice down the drain. I'm glad I
recently started juicing only about 8 ounces at a time. Whoever
supposes it is a good idea to add fresh aloe leaf juice to the mix when
juicing---I would like to know how they manage to drink it without
throwing up. SERIOUSLY!