Re: Good Email Service Providers?
On Nov 12, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:
This is a bit off topic. Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ...
I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. If you have limited amounts of e-mail and you want a free service (they aren’t free if you get a lot of e-mail), check out: Proton Mail (encrypted, based in Switzerland) Tutanota (very secure encrypted e-mail) "ProtonMail vs. Tutanota: Which Is the Best Secure Email Provider?” If you don’t mind paying a reasonable fee, these are the folks that I use, and they are awesome: ICDSoft For $96/year I get all of the bells and whistles and great 24/7 service! (Support is via a dedicated Web portal. Answers arrive in less than 10 minutes no matter when you ask them! However, there is no telephone support.) A huge amount of Web space, unlimited e-mail addresses and e-mail hosting, the facility to quickly and easily set up e-mail discussion lists, etc. Renewal of my domain name only costs $8.38. They never seem to experience any down time. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
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I don’t know that they do. They may have either requested no spam filters or chose the lowest level of filters.
They both have created signatures mentioning the new email to use, and of course the reply to would start using the new account.
Paul
Sent from my iPhone. Some imagination required.
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 9:56 PM, David Brostoff <davchbro@...> wrote:
?On Nov 12, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:
What I do for two of my clients is automatically forward the EarthLink mail to their other mail. That way the can keep the EarthLink address without having to login to EarthLink
How do they check their Earthlink spam folders? (Mine often gets false positives, especially from lists like this one.)
David
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
On Nov 12, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:
What I do for two of my clients is automatically forward the EarthLink mail to their other mail. That way the can keep the EarthLink address without having to login to EarthLink
How do they check their Earthlink spam folders? (Mine often gets false positives, especially from lists like this one.) David
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
Hi
What I do for two of my clients is automatically forward the EarthLink mail to their other mail. That way the can keep the EarthLink address without having to login to EarthLink
One uses a Gmail, the other uses an Apple provided iCloud.?
Paul . Some imagination required.?
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Barbara Mende <barbara@...> wrote:
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It was years ago, but if I sent an email to someone on Earthlink I was asked to go through another step to find out if that person was willing to accept emails from me. Otherwise I was blocked and the person never knew about it. If that doesn't happen any more, great.
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 05:56:49 PM EST, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@...> wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about about blocking people who want to contact you. I ?have never experienced that. On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
That’s an EarthLink thing. I have a friend who uses EarthLink and I could never figure out why my emails would always bounce. When I told him, he “whitelisted” me and I had no problems going forward. Kind of a PITA, but it does reduce unsolicited emails.
Steve
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 5:19?PM, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@...> wrote:
? Well, I sure get a lot of emails from lots of sources that never asked me if I was willing to receive it. Maybe the person you tried to send to had some sort of block on their account. On Nov 12, 2023, at 4:50 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
It was years ago, but if I sent an email to someone on Earthlink I was asked to go through another step to find out if that person was willing to accept emails from me. Otherwise I was blocked and the person never knew about it. If that doesn't happen any more, great.
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 05:56:49 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about about blocking people who want to contact you. I ?have never experienced that. On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
Well, I sure get a lot of emails from lots of sources that never asked me if I was willing to receive it. Maybe the person you tried to send to had some sort of block on their account.
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 4:50 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
It was years ago, but if I sent an email to someone on Earthlink I was asked to go through another step to find out if that person was willing to accept emails from me. Otherwise I was blocked and the person never knew about it. If that doesn't happen any more, great.
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 05:56:49 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about about blocking people who want to contact you. I ?have never experienced that. On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Bev in TX
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
It was years ago, but if I sent an email to someone on Earthlink I was asked to go through another step to find out if that person was willing to accept emails from me. Otherwise I was blocked and the person never knew about it. If that doesn't happen any more, great.
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 05:56:49 PM EST, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@...> wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about about blocking people who want to contact you. I ?have never experienced that.
On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Bev in TX
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
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On 13 Nov 2023, at 8:34 am, Keith Parr via groups.io <kg.parr@...> wrote:
I'd suggest / recommend?.? I've used them for many years.? I originally used their service when it was free, they now make a small charge for it. Keith
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
I have no idea what you are talking about about blocking people who want to contact you. I ?have never experienced that.
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Barbara Mende < barbara@...> wrote:
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter < jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Bev in TX
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
Does it still block people who want to contact you? Fortunately everyone I know who was ever on Earthlink has left it. Has anything changed?
JMTC, Barbara
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 04:22:02 PM EST, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@...> wrote:
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Bev in TX
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Re: Easyfind - is it still available?
I think I’ve said this before but anyway… Devon Tech makes some really nice SW, such as the apps you can use in the Services menu of some Mac apps.
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Just downloaded this the other day.
Thanks to Randy’s free software page by the way.
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
I have used two ISPs’ free email services, Yahoo, Gmail (since its inception), and iCloud mail (under its various names). Though Gmail is my primary account now, it’s mostly because I don’t want to inflict address changes upon all my contacts. I heartily recommend iCloud mail; it is dependable and secure and is readily viewed through Apple mail or online.
Here’s a note on security:? ?
Bill
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?
<snip> I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
I'd suggest / recommend?.? I've used them for many years.? I originally used their service when it was free, they now make a small charge for it.
Keith
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
Earthlink has been our service for decades with minimal problems ever.?
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This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ? I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support. Thanks
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Re: Easyfind - is it still available?
Got it, thanks to todhop and David.
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Re: File /Spreadsheets/ChequeAccount.numbers uploaded
#file-notice
Brent,
Tony’s spreadsheet is fine now. You might want to catch up with the thread. ;-)
Otto
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On 12 Nov 2023, at 18:56, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Tony, that is about as simple a spreadsheet using a formula as can be.
Only cells in column G or Balance should have a formula in them. With the exception of the first entry in the balance cell. You have to carry that one forward and enter it manually.
The rest of the cells should be manual entries.
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Re: Using Migration Assistant
Many thanks and much appreciated. As it turns out the Adobe apps on the Sierra drive aren’t opening running Mojave as the operating system. I was anticipating such issues in that associated files required for opening may not be, as you noted, in the booting system. Also, I just ordered a Thunderbolt 2 to ethernet adapter based upon your advice as I don’t trust wifi as reliably stable.
—Tony Troiano—
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I’ve used Migration Assistant many times. ?It’s generally a lot faster than re-installing all the apps and copying over file, creating preferences, etc. ?But it has a couple of things to look out for. ?It seems very sensitive to the connection between the two Mac, and I’ve had it simply stop working, so make sure you use a stable connection. ?
I’ve had it report, more than once, that it cannot copy over a file because it has an invalid name. ?My assumption is that the newer operating system did not allow a particular name that the older system did. ?It was obvious what was not copied and I was able to just re-install that.?
As noted, there may be some apps that worked in Sierra that won’t work in Mojave, for a reason other than not being 64 bit. ?If you use the above noted method to test, you might see the icon of the app has a line through it, telling you it can’t be run. ?Even if it doesn’t have the line, there will be some that won’t run because they have to be in the Applications directory of the system you are running.
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
On Nov 12, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers??
Hi, Bev,
For more than 2 decades I’ve had a few email accounts with a homegrown ISP and Internet infrastructure company based in Santa Rosa, CA called . The company was started by 2 guys who were in college in Santa Rosa back even before aDSL was a thing. When it was legal to do so, they leased POTS lines from ATT to provide aDSL service until AT&T finally figured out that sonic was doing a better local job than ATT was and cut them off. They’ve since gone into the infrastructure business as well as ISP business, and they’ve now installed symmetrical fiber service for several SF Bay Area and North Bay communities, but for reasons I don’t know, when several of their home town Santa Rosa neighborhoods were incinerated by the Tubbs PG&E-caused wildfire in 2017, The “big boys (ATT, Comcast, etc.) managed to freeze them out of infrastructure provision. They did do this for Google when Google updated their headquarters campus a decade or so ago.
They’ve been a reliable provider for me. When I moved away from Santa Rosa I was able to continue having them host IMAP email accounts, and that’s what my wife uses primarily, with no real issues. They do have storage caps (I think it’s about 5 GB), above which they’ll ramp up their account fees (the base charge for email only is somewhere around $4-$6 per month.
However, I just looked at their website, and it’s possible they no longer offer email only services except to legacy ISP customers who no longer live where they provide the “pipes."
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Re: Good Email Service Providers?
I’ve used Apple mail (iCloud) since the days of Mobil Me and have had almost no issues. ?
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 12:03?PM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:
? This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ?
I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support.
Thanks
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Bev in TX
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Good Email Service Providers?
This is a bit off topic. ?Does anyone have recommendations for good email service providers? ?For email clients, I use Apple Mail, while my husband accesses his via a browser most of the time. ?Every once in a while he has issues logging into his yahoo account, and their account verification process is not straightforward. ?For example, when I helped him this morning, it sent a verification code but it timed out before I could open the verification email ID, read the message, and go back to the other tab to enter it. ?He had gone through the same time out, but missed seeing the countdown. ?I wasn’t very slow doing that either when it timed out on me. ?He is paying $5 a month now. ?
I’ve been using free email accounts, but I would be willing to pay for something more secure than Yahoo & Gmail. ?I considered doing this in the past, but the thought of changing all online accounts to the new address was daunting.
i looked at a couple “best email providers in 2023” articles but lately I’ve gotten the impression that such articles are just ADs. ?One article’s top suggestion was Proton Mail. ?I see that’s based in Switzerland so I’m wondering about how good that service would be here in the USA. ?I’d?appreciate any recommendations. ?It would help if they provide good support.
Thanks
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Bev in TX
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