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Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"

 


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Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group
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I don't understand why Groups.io mis-refers to groups by their by the group's posting email address rather than the group's URL.
I believe in past discussion it has been stated that 'that's just how it is'.

I would suggest saying:
the group GROUPNAME.groups.io

Yes, GROUPNAME.groups.io is an alias for /g/GROUPNAME
but GROUPNAME.groups.io works and is more intuitive and memorable.


If "[email protected]" is a hyperlink (or if one's e-mail program turns it into a hyperlink), then that address is the only thing in the entire message that is clickable (except the footer).
BTW, Groups.io is also clickable.

If GROUPNAME.groups.io or /g/GROUPNAME was stated, then clicking on it would take one to the group's Home page.


Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

 

On 15/01/2020 17:39, Darlene Dimitrie via Groups.Io wrote:

2. By "when I click that", I thought I meant that on the homepage for my group, down near the bottom, under GROUP EMAIL ADDRESSES, then Subscribe:, there is a link called "main+subscribe@... <mailto:main+subscribe@...>" which brings up your default email client.
I confirm that for me, too, clicking that link brings up my default mail client and opens a new message that that address in the TO.

I have tested a number of browsers (Vivaldi, Otter, Firefox), and the "Log out" link in the top right corner always successfully logs me out, and then I have to actually log in again if I want to be logged in.

Samuel


Re: Settings for digest options

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 02:18 PM, Duane wrote:
Some groups use it so that the footers in the digest are consistent (and have live links).
I contacted the owner and he replied that as far as he can knows, he left the default settings when he created the group. He removed the Force HTML option on his group and I was able to make the switch to Plain Digest.

But I still don't understand why a group NEEDS to have the ability to NOT let me choose the format for a digest I'm going to read. I LIKE not having live links in my digests, and if a subscriber has trouble with getting his/her preferred format of digest, the group owner should be able to steer them in the right direction. As you can see, I don't like being told what I want.

Dave


Be careful if you change your group name after setting it up.

 

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I have discovered the hard way that the ¡®Welcome Message¡¯ for new members uses, by default, the name you chose for your group when you set it up. If you subsequently change the group name before sending invitations, those responding to the invite join the group with its new name, but get a welcome message with the old name, and when they try to access the email addresses within it get a message saying the group does not exist.

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So if you change a group name, make sure you change the details in the Welcome Message and any other Member Notices

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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

Darlene Dimitrie
 

Hello all,

Thank you for all the responses.?

1. Bruce, the aliases is definitely something to watch for going forward, one of those not obvious settings and subsequent problem.? I'm not using aliases yet, but that's good advice.

2. By "when I click that", I thought I meant that on the homepage for my group, down near the bottom, under GROUP EMAIL ADDRESSES, then Subscribe:, there is a link called? "main+subscribe@..." which brings up your default email client.? However, the rest of testing notes aren't completely making sense with that, so I am trying to reconstruct my testing.? I'm not sure why I wrote it that way, my apologies, it's not clear.

3. The comment about newer browsers retaining information, I'm thinking perhaps cookies, is something I need to try out.

4. As for "use a different browser", what I mean is that I tried my testing on 3 different browsers, MS Edge, MS Internet Explorer and Google Chrome.? I was thinking that if I used a browser that I hadn't used before on the GROUPS.IO website, then it shouldn't know anything about my use of GROUPS.IO, not in cookies or anywhere else it keeps information.? Also, occasionally, a website will not work properly on MS Edge, but it will work on one of the others.? I don't think this is the case here though.

I will work my way through all of these responses and get back to you.

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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:25 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:
I use MS Edge, so I tried Internet Explorer and Chrome, same results.
Made sure I was logged out on all browsers, same results.
A lot of the newer browsers/devices insist on remembering your login information so they can automatically log you in when you go to a site.? Sometimes you have to dig, but can (always?) find a way to turn it off.

Duane
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Re: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

 

I have been dealing with the "No Reverse DNS" error for over a month now. The Reverse DNS is configured properly and present. My ISP checked for me as well and also confirmed it was properly configured. IT was posted here and also confirmed it was properly configured.-- Yet the Error bounces continued. Mark apparently "increased the delay time" for the check and it helped a lot! Instead of getting them numerous times per day it is not only a few times per day (2-5 times) as opposed to 20-30 times before. Yet is still persists. The fact a change was made and it notably?produced results would tell you that the change could be the heart of the problem... even though I've seen it blamed on everything else.

Randall


Re: Reply to sender on some posts ?

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 07:18 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
And yet more have a slightly different but plainer footer, is that from the sender using plain text ?
Probably.? There's a pretty good explanation of footers at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers? Also see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69697470

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Re: Reply to sender on some posts ?

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 08:18 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Not a huge concern but in the footer, why do some posts have reply to Group and some have Reply to Group *&* Reply to Sender ?

Its not the groups settings as they are all reply to group
If you check the "Remove Other Reply Options" box, "Reply to Sender" will not appear in the footer.

Bruce


Reply to sender on some posts ?

 

Not a huge concern but in the footer, why do some posts have reply to Group and some have Reply to Group *&* Reply to Sender ?

Its not the groups settings as they are all reply to group


And yet more have a slightly different but plainer footer, is that from the sender using plain text ?



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Email text width setting in email browsers from Genealogy groups. #email #email settings #email

 

When a group owner sets posts on their group, is there a text width setting as most emails come to my iMac with half the screen wasted and excessive scrolling required to reach the bottom of a Digest email?

Changes to my email browser does not fix this, so I assume it comes from the page width and text length settings somewhere else.?

I include a sample.

Regards,
John


Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"

 

On 14/01/2020 08:58, Samuel Murray wrote:

On 14/01/2020 08:07, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:

One of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe" messages. But they are not subbed! If I approve the message, it seems to appear as a message. :( However, some seem properly subbed, as I can click on their email and see that.
[My guess is that the] original sender of the "reply to subscribe" message did not realise that he needs to press REPLY in his mail program in order to confirm his subscription, so he did what some e-mail users nowadays do: he created a *new* e-mail and addressed it to what he considered the originator of the mail that he's
"replying" to.
Actually, I just thought of another way this might have happened, which is due to a design flaw in GIO itself.

When someone tries to subscribe via e-mail, they get a message from GIO saying the following:

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Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group
[email protected]. To complete your subscription,
please reply to this email.
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If "[email protected]" is a hyperlink (or if one's e-mail program turns it into a hyperlink), then that address is the only thing in the entire message that is clickable (except the footer).

He might either click it because he is used to clicking an e-mail link to start up an e-mail.

Alternatively, he might click it because clicking a link is a very common action during two-step subscription of online services.

In fact, when I personally subscribe to anything online that uses two-step subscription, I don't actually **read** the mail I receive, but simply glance at the message and then click the most prominent link. I suspect many people do that.

Samuel


Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

 

On 15/01/2020 00:15, Darlene Dimitrie via Groups.Io wrote:

Right now I'm a trying to subscribe via email using <list-name>[email protected]
When I click that, up comes GROUPS.IO, but I am logged into my own account.
What do you mean "when I click that"? What do you click?

When I do a test by trying to subscribe by sending an e-mail to [email protected], the test user gets an e-mail telling him to "complete" his subscription by replying to the message, but there is no link in that e-mail that one can click (except for the e-mail address itself, but that is because my e-mail program automatically changes e-mail addresses into links).

On some other mailing list systems that I have seen, the reply sent in request to a "subscribe" or "join" e-mail also contains a unique link that one can click in order to confirm one's subscription (and one's e-mail address), but the IO reply does not have that, unfortunately.

Samuel


Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 07:44 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:
I'm using a different email address.? That's the odd part.
If you have that address set up as an email alias for the existing account, that might explain the observed behavior.

Bruce


Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"

 

That sounds sooooo likely! I will go moderate that subject if possible.

Valorie


Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

Darlene Dimitrie
 

I'm using a different email address.? That's the odd part.

This is part of my testing, so I doubt I will be going in this way.? I'm trying to avoid the website completely.

I will look at the link you sent, it looks like the answer, without me having to torture myself with all this testing. ?

Thank you.


Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:25 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:
Any suggestions on how to able to "act like I don't have any accounts" and just go the normal route of a brand new user of GIO?
You'll need another email account (or subscribe to a different group.)? You can't use the subscribe address for your own group using the email address that's in your account.? A subscription here, via email, is pretty much the same as you're used to.? No need to visit the site at all.? Also see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Joining-a-group

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Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account

Darlene Dimitrie
 

Hello everyone,
I'm fairly new here, almost a week!? I'm trying to test the various ways to subscribe and I'm having a problem.
Right now I'm a trying to subscribe via email using <list-name>[email protected]
When I click that, up comes GROUPS.IO, but I am logged into my own account.
What I would like to see is whatever a brand new subscriber would see instead, with a new account.
I tried logging out.? Still logs me into my own account.
I use MS Edge, so I tried Internet Explorer and Chrome, same results.
Made sure I was logged out on all browsers, same results.

I remember at some point choosing a setting to leave myself logged in for 30 days.??
Does this have something to do with this?? If so, how can I turn this off?
If not, any idea how to get around this; we're trying to make our group as easy as possible to log into as our subscribers are used to Rootsweb.? There, using the email subscribe just subscribes you with no other web pages involved, just a simple email to welcome you to the mailing list.

Any suggestions on how to able to "act like I don't have any accounts" and just go the normal route of a brand new user of GIO?

Thank you,
Darlene


Re: Using GIFs as Cover Photos

 

Thanks Derek that helps. So far the GIF continues to be animated, at least when I view it using Firefox 72.0. If another member's browser only displays the first frame, that'll work too. It's not an informational GIF, but a scene with a snow plow.

tommy0421


Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Thanks. I searched the official help pages and the GMF wiki before I pressed SEND but could not find the information. Do you happen to know (off the top of your head) where this information is written (if any)?

Samuel, I had to use the Search in the wiki!

In?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-Moderation
In?Topic and Hashtag controls

I think it needs an image though!

Frances
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