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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 07:41 PM, Events events wrote:

I would like to add an unsubscribe link to my welcome message simlar to the unsubscribe link in the direct add message. I tried to use?[email protected]?but this requires the member to log in or create a login if they don’t have one. ? If a person new to groups.io wants to unsubscribe, they don’t want to have to create a login. How can I do this.

First, the invitation email says: ?If you are not interested, or if joeblow@...?is not your email address, please ignore this email. So it will expire.

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I would like to add an unsubscribe link to my welcome message simlar to the unsubscribe link in the direct add message. I tried to use?[email protected]?but this requires the member to log in or create a login if they don’t have one. ? If a person new to groups.io wants to unsubscribe, they don’t want to have to create a login. How can I do this.
Paul

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 07:25 PM, Bruce Hyman wrote:

sorry i couldnt find this: i am the owner of a group that is not needed. how can i delete the group?

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In Admin, Settings. Bottom of the page - red button.
Be careful if you do. You might want to rename your group first so that you can re-use the name if you wish.

Frances
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Gentlemen,

Was in shock, and poor subject was probably my attempt to keep sense of humor... my apologies.

Have contacted support, when they stop laughing at me they may reply,
jim

sorry i couldnt find this: i am the owner of a group that is not needed. how can i delete the group?

That's pretty clever.

I just noticed that the creator of PGO-2-GIO finally has something on his webpage about it, but it's pretty subtle. It simply says "

?Yahoo or Facebook Group migration?to phpBB or Wordpress or Groups.io. For more info click??
He's trying to cover four cases in one sentence and that's obscure.
Larry

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Larry

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 04:50 PM, Ann Wild wrote:

I have a simple question, but cannot find the answer in wiki.

Glad you got the answer but I wanted to point out that there is a search box at the top of the wiki page.

A search for NC in the wiki search box retrieved this:

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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 04:10 PM, Marv Waschke wrote:

Descriptive subject help a lot.

Marv -- As the Moderator who approved it, I accept responsibility for that.

Generally we all need to do a better job of reviewing incoming topics and --- if necessary -- providing a subject line more useful to both subscribers and the search engine. When the Yahoo flood was ongoing, we could be forgiven for putting such things on the back burner. That excuse no longer exists.

Bruce

On 13/01/2020 18:25, Laurence Marks wrote:

PGO-2-GIO is using HTTP.

Thanks for clearing that up, Laurence. Information about PGO-2-GIO is currently all rather hush-hush, so one can but only draw conclusions from whenever bits of information float to the surface. :-)

Note that both HTTP and SMTP have the unfortunate effect of making every post appear as it came from one individual.

No, the fact that it appears as if the posts are all from the same person is not an artifact specificallyt of HTTP or SMTP being used.

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Using redirection

As I said previously, if one uses "redirect" (which uses SMTP), all kinds of cool things happen. The screenshots attached show what happens when I redirect 11 messages from an old Yahoogroups MBOX. This is with Thunderbird 60.9.1 using Onno Ekker's "Mail Redirect" add-on (without the add-on, you can only redirect messages individually, and a later version of Thunderbird may not work with the add-on).

Of course, one can do a bit of clever find/replace on the MBOX file to make certain information from the headers visible in the body of the message, e.g. original date, original msg number, possibly even threading, similar to what PGO-2-GIO is doing.

As a reminder, you have to enable sending by non-subscribers, otherwise most of these redirected mails will be rejected by Groups.io as coming from non-subscribers.

If you're going to use this method, you'd have to ensure that (a) your SMTP service allows redirection and (b) you may have to buy extra sending capabilities. Also, I'm not sure at what point Groups.io will start blocking the mails, and what happens to such blocked mails.

I recently tried to make a list of some SMTP services, but I haven't tested if they allow redirection. For what it's worth, here is the list (I hope this isn't regarded as disallowed advertising):


eur 20 monthly, 40 000 mails per month
OR eur 0 monthly, 300 mails per day


pay as you go: 50c per 1000 mails


eur 0 monthly, 40 000 mails first month, 100 per day afterwards
OR eur 15 monthly, 40 000 mails per month


eur 10 monthly, 10 000 mails, + eur 1.25 per 1000 mails
eur 50 monthly, 50 000 mails, + eur 1.00 per 1000 mails


eur 14 monthly, 20 000 mails
eur 69 monthly, 100 000 mails
(This is the one I use, and it does support redirection.)

So, if you want to redirect 100 000 mails:

Sendinblue: eur 60, takes 3 months
Mailgun: eur 50, as long or short as you need
Sendgrid: eur 45, takes 3 months
Postmarkapp: eur 125, takes 1 month
SMTP2go: eur 69, takes 1 month

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Samuel

Here's how I solved the problem—I followed RickGlaz-WEB and Duane's.?

First, I tried logging in to groups.io with each of my email addresses. Two of them had groups.io accounts associated with them. Neither of those showed me as an owner of the PAXBoard. None of my other email addresses had an associated groups.io account so they were out.

Next, I sent an email to owner+paxboard requesting the owner get back to me. But no response.

Finally, I sent a plain old non-group email to everyone I thought I might have made a group owner. One replied acknowledging that she was, indeed, the owner and sole member of my test group and I asked her either to do the group delete herself or add me as a group owner so I could do it.

Easy peasy once I had a little help and hand holding.

Again, thank you to Duane and RickGlaz-WEB for their advice.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 03:50 PM, Ann Wild wrote:

I don't understand why some have this box and some don't. What generates it?

See the information at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List for details on NC, including on when it's removed.

Duane
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I have a simple question, but cannot find the answer in wiki.? In my list of pending members, some have a purple box with the white letters NC inside, which I take to mean Not Confirmed.? But since all our members have to be confirmed, I don't understand why some have this box and some don't. What generates it?

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On 2020-01-13 01:43, Samuel Murray via Groups.Io wrote:

I'm not sure if one can subscribe a subgroup to the main group directly
(so that the subgroup would receive all mails that are sent to the main
group).

No, GIO will give you an "Invalid Email Address" error if you try to DirectAdd (or send a join invitation to) a GIO subgroup email address. (or top-level group for that matter)

However, if one wants to have it to where a special notice sent on the main group also gets automatically sent to one or more of the subgroups, one could set up a system using a Google account and forwarding to accomplish this; not the most elegant solution but it can work.

Cheers,
Christos

Jim-- I don't mean to carp, but many of us don't have time to read every GMF post and rely on subject lines to decide which topics to follov. Descriptive subject help a lot. Best, Marv

Kay,

PG-FB interface could be the solution you are looking for getting FB group over into GroupsIO.

You would need to see this page:


Plus the forums over there.? I doubt this GMF group has any further info on the PGO-FB product and how to get to GroupsIO with it.

BMaverick

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:02 PM, Mina Loomis wrote:

Is there a delay in messages posting? ?Is something wrong?

There was a DNS server problem this morning, so the site wasn't accessible, .? Emails may not have gotten through, thus not queued as normal, so you may need to resend them.

Duane
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:01 PM, R. Hari wrote:

Now I want to insert a row at the top of the table. And also swap a few rows.

You can only add rows at the bottom.? However, you can reposition them using the arrows at the top right of the Column description.? Also see /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Databases item 13.

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That's a pain - it would have been really handy. Thanks for the info.

Kay

I am owner of a group that I created from scratch rather than by importing. ?I have successfully posted by email to my group in the past couple of months. ?This morning I sent, from my email (the same email that I use for ), two messages to my group. ?It has been a while and neither message has come to my inbox, and neither message appears on the group page in my browser. So I have to assume no one else who is a member of my group is receiving it either. ?Is there a delay in messages posting? ?Is something wrong? ?

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 08:30 AM, Jonah the Whale wrote:

In the current transfer of genealogy sites from Rootsweb, groups are
generating duplicated hashtags by placing keyword hashtags at the
beginning of a subject line.? However the hashtag then appears at the
start of that line and is displayed as a coloured emoji style icon at
the end of the subject line.

What are we all doing incorrectly as the coloured version is all that is
required by us?? Sample output enclosed.


Regards,

John Scott

If you generate the new topic online, this won't happen when you use the - Add Tags - option.


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