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Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Tiffany Hahn wrote:

I'm not opposed to it, personally. "Selfish" is choosing your own want?over someone else's need, but you do what you gotta do.

Oh, come on. I¡¯m sure you could phrase that with greater personal hostility if you just put your mind to it.


I do have to say it is pretty damn ANNOYING to have to go to the bottom of the message menu and hit remove attachments. I agree with Tiffany, Jim. Get over it. I am sure by now we have all seen your face. Nobody else is that¡ªto use her word¡ªselfish.
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Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
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Barry Austern
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

It doesn¡¯t annoy me at all. What DOES annoy me is this petty ping pong match. Awaiting the flames . . .

On Oct 28, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Austern via Groups.Io <barryaus@...> wrote:

I think it is simply his vanity that he wants his silly face to be seen by all of us. It gives him a feeling of power if he can annoy other people.
Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.0 - RAM 16 Gig
2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly@...> wrote:



On Oct 28, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tiffany Hahn <tiffany@...> wrote:

In my mind, the question is - what does an image, graphic, or photo ADD to the information being sought and/or volunteered?

An image indicating contact information for a member's Mac repair business is very relevant.?

Personal photos in signature lines are more relevant when people are trying to prove they're not 13. If 13 year old member on the list posted an articulate question or response, their age becomes irrelevant. If the information is accurate and well-phrased, they could be any age, any gender, from any location, etc.

So I'll ask - Jim, what does the photo of you add to your post? If it's just for the sake of it, I think you need to take to heart that there are actual reasons NOT to do it.?

I'm not opposed to it, personally. "Selfish" is choosing your own want over someone else's need, but you do what you gotta do.?

-Tiffany Hahn

Ultimately, like I said before, when our ?storage runs out the oldest attachments will be automatically delected to make room for new attachments. By Jim adding his photo to every email really won¡¯t make that much difference because if his photo happens to be the oldest attachment it will get deleted first.


Fine for those who read the messages on the web, but for those of us who read in Email the images keep coming and coming. Maybe Jim will buy us all bigger hard drives.

Dave

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Barry Austern
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Tiffany Hahn <tiffany@...> wrote:

In my mind, the question is - what does an image, graphic, or photo ADD to the information being sought and/or volunteered?

An image indicating contact information for a member's Mac repair business is very relevant.?

Personal photos in signature lines are more relevant when people are trying to prove they're not 13. If 13 year old member on the list posted an articulate question or response, their age becomes irrelevant. If the information is accurate and well-phrased, they could be any age, any gender, from any location, etc.



I think it is simply his vanity that he wants his silly face to be seen by all of us. It gives him a feeling of power if he can annoy other people.
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Barry Austern
Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help! #Mac

 

Have you tried this:
- open Finder
- click on Finder in the menu bar and select empty trash.

You may be doing a secure delete, which is time-consuming.
Be sure that option is not selected.

Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!

On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:17, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

Tiffany Hahn
 

I have my own signatures with photos and/or graphics. I love them. It makes me feel like I put more effort into the message I'm sending. Email can be impersonal and there are times when I really wish I could have written a note or embossed it or something. I have my own reasons for liking images and color. I make sure I host those images instead of attaching them, but that was my preference. When I say "you do you" I actually mean it. I don't have a preference as to what you do with your email signature line. Your photo has been attached to your signature line for a while. I didn't give it a second thought until this discussion arose.?

- Tiffany Hahn
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Tiffany Hahn wrote:
In my mind, the question is - what does an image, graphic, or photo?ADD to the information being sought and/or volunteered?

In my mind, it provides HUMAN contact in a HUMAN conversation.

An image indicating contact information for a member's Mac repair?business is very relevant.

What *I* am running is often not very relevant to the OP¡¯s complaint.?When it is, I include that info as part of the conversation.
I certainly don¡¯t think it needs to be on EVERY posting.

So I'll ask - Jim, what does the photo of you add to your post? If it's just?for the sake of it, I think you need to take to heart that there are actual?reasons NOT to do it.?

Let me answer that indirectly.
Having an image of YOU on a post to which I am replying gives ME a?much better feeling for the person with whom I am conversing. More like?a face-to-face conversation between real people.

The difference in message size between image the way I¡¯m now doing it and no image is about the same, or less, as the difference between sending in RTF versus sending in plain text.

I'm not opposed to it, personally. "Selfish" is choosing your own want?over someone else's need, but you do what you gotta do.

Oh, come on. I¡¯m sure you could phrase that with greater personal hostility if you just put your mind to it.

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Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 07:04 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
Right. I do. It¡¯s my ¡°avatar¡± on
ok, so please use the address of your "avatar" on groups.io to display your photo. For example here is mine:?/profilephoto/232151
Re: ! Update Required #Privacy

 

Hi Folks!

I simply closed all apps, then did a shutdown. Then I brought the iMac back up and the message was gone.

To further attempt to divorce myself from Yahoo!, I went to each browser that I use and made sure that Yahoo! was NOT selected as a search engine or start page. Each browser is using Duck Duck Go.

I will be sure to search for and trash Chromium and/or Chrome or Chrome based browsers. Generally I use Opera, Safari or Tor when doing financial stuff.

Should this renegade message pop up again, I¡¯ll repost.

On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:

I've tried to FORCE QUIT, but this pane does not appear in the list of options. Anyone seen this ? What should I do?
Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.0 - RAM 16 Gig
2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Oct 28, 2019, Dave Kelly wrote:
My preference would?be to embed a link in your ¡°attachment¡± in the email so it loads when?the message is displayed.

It would be great if could provide a link URL for the image some of us provide ON , and which is displayed when our messages are read ONLINE.

If you have a place on line where your?picture is stored that works out well.

Right. I do. It¡¯s my ¡°avatar¡± on

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Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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Small pic like yours helps identify with that person. ?Thanks.
Azim Karim??

Brent replied:
If you have an image for the person, then put it in your contacts and Mail.app will include it when you read the email.

If the email comes from the individual, but not if the email comes from the list.
And I do not routinely add everyone on a list I¡¯m on to my Contacts.
And where would I get images of list members to add to my Contacts if I wanted to?

But with every post, it takes up space in the groups data allocation, EVERY TIME.

I notice that posts my image in every post I send, IF it is viewed on the website, but NOT if it is sent out as email.

And I noticed you include an image with your posts.

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I saw no image included in his post.
Just the ? character, which is a type-able character, if you know how.

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Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tiffany Hahn <tiffany@...> wrote:

In my mind, the question is - what does an image, graphic, or photo ADD to the information being sought and/or volunteered?

An image indicating contact information for a member's Mac repair business is very relevant.?

Personal photos in signature lines are more relevant when people are trying to prove they're not 13. If 13 year old member on the list posted an articulate question or response, their age becomes irrelevant. If the information is accurate and well-phrased, they could be any age, any gender, from any location, etc.

So I'll ask - Jim, what does the photo of you add to your post? If it's just for the sake of it, I think you need to take to heart that there are actual reasons NOT to do it.?

I'm not opposed to it, personally. "Selfish" is choosing your own want over someone else's need, but you do what you gotta do.?

-Tiffany Hahn

Ultimately, like I said before, when our ?storage runs out the oldest attachments will be automatically delected to make room for new attachments. By Jim adding his photo to every email really won¡¯t make that much difference because if his photo happens to be the oldest attachment it will get deleted first.

Dave
Re: Digest form #MacSupportCentral

 

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Click on ¡°Your Subscription¡± at the bottom of the note and you can choose your delivery option.

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Hester Reik <dhreik@...> wrote:

Is there a digest option for posts?

Thanks
hester
Re: Digest form #MacSupportCentral

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 06:49 PM, Hester Reik wrote:
Is there a digest option for posts?
on the groups.io web site, go to subscription and you can set email type there. ?/g/macsupportcentral/editsub
Dave
Digest form #MacSupportCentral

 

Is there a digest option for posts?

Thanks
hester
Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

Tiffany Hahn
 

In my mind, the question is - what does an image, graphic, or photo ADD to the information being sought and/or volunteered?

An image indicating contact information for a member's Mac repair business is very relevant.?

Personal photos in signature lines are more relevant when people are trying to prove they're not 13. If 13 year old member on the list posted an articulate question or response, their age becomes irrelevant. If the information is accurate and well-phrased, they could be any age, any gender, from any location, etc.

So I'll ask - Jim, what does the photo of you add to your post? If it's just for the sake of it, I think you need to take to heart that there are actual reasons NOT to do it.

I'm not opposed to it, personally. "Selfish" is choosing your own want over someone else's need, but you do what you gotta do.?

-Tiffany Hahn
Re: Testing an Attachment #MacSupportCentral #Mail

 

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Brent wrote:
I can easily do without the small image in the signature.
Once, or?occasionally is fine, but we don't need it every time.

What a shame it is that I cannot figure out how to not send it just to you.

It serves no valuable purpose, a signature with your Mac and OS would?do more.

Obviously, I disagree.

When someone starts to ramble on without identifying their system?assuming others know, is just wrong, and I am just as guilty as others.

The majority of my posts are trying to answer other people¡¯s questions,?and what is relevant is *their* system, not mine.
I presume that when I start to ramble on about a problem I¡¯m having?without stating my system(s) and hardware, that you will faithfully?remind me.
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Others might not use such a small image.

The list could require an image no larger than X kB.

In fact, looking at mine, I discovered that MOST of its size is embedded?metadata. Leave that out and it drops to 2 kB.

And simply by changing from rich text to plain text, I can SAVE 2 kB in the message size.

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Jim Saklad
! Update Required #Privacy

 

Hi Folks!

Just got this pane that came up on my screen. Update Required. The ONLY option is to press OK. I haven't yet. However, it says:

Your version of Yahoo provided search is out of date. Click here to cancel the automatic update. I click there and it doesn't cancel.

By clicking OK you agree to install Chromium, set Yahoo provided search as your default search on all of your compativle browsers and accept the Yahoo Terms of Use and Privacy Policy and the Chromium Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

I've tried to FORCE QUIT, but this pane does not appear in the list of options. Anyone seen this ? What should I do?

Thanks,
Bob Beckham
macOS Catalina 10.15.0
16 Gigs RAM
iMac 27" Late 2012
Re: Keyboard chaos #Hardware #Resolved

 

Having swapped everything and every slot, I was at wits end.?
I had a spare Apple keyboard plugged into the loaner laptop PC.?
For the hell of it, I tried it.? It works!
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Once logged into the iMac, I swapped the dead Apple keyboard for the working one.? Nothing.
I plugged the dead keyboard into the laptop PC.??
The PC recognized and set it up, but it doesn't type in the laptop either.
I'm guessing the resuming power zapped the keyboard, keys, but nothing else.
?
So, what about the?MACALLY?keyboard that appeared to also be dead??
Once logged into the iMac, I swapped the Apple for the?MACALLY.??
The iMac didn't care and the MACALLY works just fine now.
It has replaced the good keyboard on this loaner laptop.
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Re: Keyboard chaos #Hardware #Resolved

 

Budd, why are you not replying to the group? Don't you want to share a possible answer with the group?

He replied back that my suggestion did not work and he is going to try with Apple. He has not replied to the list on whether Dan's suggestion?worked or not, but apparently not. My guess would be that Dan's suggestions might be difficult to perform without a working wired keyboard. But we, as a group, can only guess that.

I find the third suggestion, very improbable, as it used to be that a USB keyboard would slow down that buss or circuit of USB, and so should not be combined with other USB devices other than the pointing device. That could have changed in later OS than the one I am using, but I think it is a hardware thing, not software. It did show why not to combine them.?

The only things that I can think is that either the code or the prefs for that part of the startup got corrupted in the improper shut off by the power failure, or the USB circuits on his 2009 iMac or keyboard got damaged in the power surge when the power came back on.

Budd, please let the list know what the outcome of the talk with Apple is.

Brent

MacBook Pro,?15",?early 2008, OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 9.3.6




On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:42 PM, Brent via Groups.Io wrote:

- try a different port.
- try a mouse without a keypad.
- try a different keyboard.
- unplug all peripherals, and restart
-try restarting with the kb plugged in and the shift key down

in that order


On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Budd Turner via Groups.Io wrote:

This afternoon, we had a power outage for ~1/2 hour.
With power back on, I turned on the iMac.? Now it is searching for a Bluetooth keyboard. I have a wired Apple Extended keyboard connected, but unplugging/replugging did no good.? I remembered the ZAGG BT keyboard for my iPad.? Once they connected I can??type through it to and?log in.?
But I am unable to find a way in preferences to re-enable the .wired keyboard.
If I disable the ZAGG, the iMac goes back into searching mode.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Change Keyboard Type: No choices.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys - Select Keyboard: No choices.
Suggestions?
Late 2009 iMac 10,1
8GB RAM
500 GB SSD
MacOS 10.13.6 with latest updates, last night.
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