i notice there are 276 members but only 14 (including me) showing in the group directory...i wish every member was in it...what determines whether members are in the directory??
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. Suddenly no attachments appearing. I'm not sure why. Denver Dan On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 15:10:17 -0400, Daniel Settles via Groups.Io wrote: Howdy.
Otto, here's the tiny Input Menu current icon. The square. I don't
recall when the icon changed.
One can still open the Keyboard panel in Sys Prefs, click the Input
Sources tab, click the + sign and add all kinds of different language
keyboards. One can even add an Australian English keyboard but oddly
it shows right side up.
Denver Dan
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 11:38:41 +0000, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:
Its proper name has always been "Input Menu" but I call it "Flag"
because that is what I see in the menu bar. So that's changed after
all this time?
Otto
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 11:24, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
Howdy.
Otto, the "Flag" menu has changed in more recent version of macOS X.
It's called the Input menu and now has a Square icon withe 4 little
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. PopChar is a great little utility but now costs money. Emoji & Symbols also does the same things but is included. Denver Dan 'On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:01:09 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:15 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io
<jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I remember (correctly, I hope) a time when it linked to a Font menu,
so that one could see the entire spectrum of glyphs a given font
could produce by bringing up the keyboard map and selecting an
individual typeface.
That sounds like the 3rd-party application PopChar.
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Howdy. Tom, at this point of the struggle, why don't you reformat your drive and do a clean system install and then do a fresh install of your programs. At some point, it becomes worth it, in my view, to show the computer who is boss and reformat!! Denver Dan On Fri, 01 Nov 2019 14:33:45 -0700, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote: By adding the space before "/" I got a chance to add my password, but
the system ignored me (or so I thought):
MacBook-Pro:~ tomkirshbaum$ sudo tmutil listlocalsnapshots /
Password:
MacBook-Pro:~ tomkirshbaum$ sudo tmutil listlocalsnapshots /
MacBook-Pro:~ tomkirshbaum$ sudo tmutil listlocalsnapshots /
MacBook-Pro:~ tomkirshbaum$
Now I think it's not ignoring me, it's answering my query with
"none." Here's the very discouraging result from last night:
1. Armed with 5 GB of new storage from deleting caches, I was able to
run Onyx.
2. I deleted logs and checked for snapshots (which OnyX will do).
Guess what? No snapshots! Huh?
3. I quit OnyX and checked storage available in About this Mac,
thinking it would have increased somewhat from 5 GB. What a shock: I
now had MBs instead of GBs. What happened to it while I was running
OnyX? I have no idea.
4. Now I'm back to not being able to run apps. Why are there no
snapshots? Might it have to do with the fact that I turned off Time
Machine yesterday and ejected, disconnected and turned off the TM
backup drive?
Anyway, I don't know where to go now. I removed over 60 GBs from the
drive, cleaned out caches and logs, found no snapshots, and have too
little memory (again) to run apps. My computer is crawling. I'll
continue to go through the suggestions I've received, doing whatever
I can with nearly zero storage memory and watching a spinning
beachball by the hour, but the takeaway is that 2/3rds of my 250 GB
HD is System files and my computer is circling the drain. What a
mess!
Tom Kirshbaum
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. Jim and everybody, Emoji & Symbols on the Input menu shows font variations and font names. But you will need to expand the window. Click the Input menu icon at top right inside the Emoji & Symbols window (to right of the Search box). In the column at far right you will see several sub boxes. The character name at top (with Add to Favorites), then the Related Characters box, below that (may have to scroll down) the Font Variation box. Folks should be aware of the Settings menu - the gear icon at top left. You can turn on a slew of additional characters with the Customize List command. Character sets like: Arrows ? ? ? ?? ? Box Drawing Braille Patterns Bullets/Stars ● ? ? ?? ? ?? Currency Symbols $ � ? ? ? Digits Dingbats Divination Symbols Duployan (whatever that is???) Emoji Enclosed Characters Geometrical Shapes Letterlike Symbols Math Symbols × - ∞ ≧ Musical Symbols ? ? ? Technical Symbols ? ?? ?? ? And many more. The Latin set is very useful because it includes descriptor of all of those symbols like ? (Latin Capital Letter A with Acute). Denver Dan On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 07:14:41 -0600, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: Keyboard Viewer, as Otto says, is very convenient and has been around
in one form or another since 1984. But less useful than it used to be, I think. I remember (correctly, I
hope) a time when it linked to a Font menu, so that one could see the
entire spectrum of glyphs a given font could produce by bringing up
the keyboard map and selecting an individual typeface.
Of course, it’s possible that was provided by some 3rd party program
I no longer use, but I think it was an Apple freebie.
Jim Robertson
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Thanks, Pat. I’ve got it set up now. I did watch something on my Apple TV (on the big TV), and I noticed there are a lot of commercials in the Apple TV programs. But then, it’s free for a year. Carol
Once the service is activated on your new device, it is automatically available on your others. ?I set mine up on my new phone yesterday and then watched one of the new shows on my iPad. ?It’s also available for free on my Apple TV.
Pat
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I purchased a new Mac Mini about six weeks ago and was told it came with 1 year of Apple TV+ when it was released. After reading the posts on this I tried to sign up but Apple will only give me 7 days free trial. I am not too bothered as I don’t watch too much TV but I do think that Apple’s advertising is a tad misleading. The only ‘free’ streaming is a half dozen Apple produced programmes and a couple of Apple produced films. All else carries a price tag, even the BBC iPlayer programmes that I can get for free.
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Which program did you watch? ?I watched the first episode of The Morning Show and there were no commercials at all.
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? Thanks, Pat. I’ve got it set up now. I did watch something on my Apple TV (on the big TV), and I noticed there are a lot of commercials in the Apple TV programs. But then, it’s free for a year. Carol
Once the service is activated on your new device, it is automatically available on your others. ?I set mine up on my new phone yesterday and then watched one of the new shows on my iPad. ?It’s also available for free on my Apple TV.
Pat
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. Otto, here's the tiny Input Menu current icon. The square. I don't recall when the icon changed. One can still open the Keyboard panel in Sys Prefs, click the Input Sources tab, click the + sign and add all kinds of different language keyboards. One can even add an Australian English keyboard but oddly it shows right side up. Denver Dan On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 11:38:41 +0000, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: Its proper name has always been "Input Menu" but I call it "Flag"
because that is what I see in the menu bar. So that's changed after
all this time?
Otto
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 11:24, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
Howdy.
Otto, the "Flag" menu has changed in more recent version of macOS X.
It's called the Input menu and now has a Square icon withe 4 little
hollow square in it. [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|] iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Have you looked in Console for a run away log? You should get some clue as to what is causing the issue.
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:21 AM, Tom_Kirshbaum < tom.kirshbaum@...> wrote: Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing.?
Now, I’m afraid, the end is near. Available memory is 5 MB. Safari won’t open any web sites, Time Machine fails on backup, and I can’t run any software. I’ve done all the tests my resources allowed and now the OS doesn’t allow me to do anything at all. Looks like I’ll have to do a clean install. Since my most recent successful backup was over a week ago, I’m going to lose a lot of recent financial and message records. Without the ability to back up, I can’t figure out a way to save the last week’s files. I’m sure not looking forward to this.?
BTW, I can’t increase the storage BBC SSD because in the 2017 MacBook Pro it is soldered in place. Besides, as the System eats up more and more storage, increasing the amount of storage would only delay the inevitable.?
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Thanks, Pat. I’ve got it set up now. I did watch something on my Apple TV (on the big TV), and I noticed there are a lot of commercials in the Apple TV programs. But then, it’s free for a year. Carol
Once the service is activated on your new device, it is automatically available on your others. ?I set mine up on my new phone yesterday and then watched one of the new shows on my iPad. ?It’s also available for free on my Apple TV.
Pat
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googurl wrote: In Eudora -> Settings -> Attachments, there is an option to "Trash attachments with messages". Have you enabled that setting?
I have always had that box checked and when I delete a message, its attachment is moved to the Trash. Actually, I knew about that. And I absolutely don't want it, though I know it works for some other people. I'm grateful I have the option not to choose it. Apparently not all Mac and Windows email programs allow keeping an attachment when deleting a message. I keep a lot of attachments. I move some of them to another folder, and trash some immediately. The rest I like to find safe in the Attachments folder till I finally get around to dealing with them. I'd hate to dig through my trash before emptying it to make sure there's nothing valuable there. Thanks, though, for the reminder. Patsy
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:15 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I remember (correctly, I hope) a time when it linked to a Font menu, so that one could see the entire spectrum of glyphs a given font could produce by bringing up the keyboard map and selecting an individual typeface.
That sounds like the 3rd-party application PopChar. --PSmith MacBook Pro (early 2013) w/ Mac OS 10.15, iPad Pro 9.7 inch and iPhone XS Max w/ iOS 13?
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 16:16, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc= [email protected]> wrote:
Is that a bootable backup? Do you have ANY external volume that is bootable? If you do, you could boot from the external and clone your internal to an external volume before wiping it and doing a re-install.
Yes, boot from a backup. Then install Grand Perspectve or Whatsize to see what's going on.
Otto
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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On Nov 2, 2019, Daniel Settles wrote: Otto, the "Flag" menu has changed in more recent version of macOS X. ?
It's called the Input menu and now has a Square icon withe 4 little?
hollow square in it.
It still looks like a flag in my 10.15.1 :
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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You are thinking of the Input Menu (used to have a flag icon for your?
selected language) and the default items on it called:
I remember the flag in the menubar. In the early days of the single-user Mac that flag saved me from a trip to the CooCoo’s nest. My precocious son bedeviled me by installing various romance language keyboard maps; just enough so that my touch-typing produced many misspellings.
What I’m mourning is the loss of font-specific display of glyphs on the Keyboard Viewer. I don’t remember when it disappeared, or why.
Jim
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
On Nov 2, 2019, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote: Now, I’m afraid, the end is near. Available memory is 5 MB. Safari won’t open any?web sites, Time Machine fails on backup, and I can’t run any software. I’ve done all?the tests my resources allowed and now the OS doesn’t allow me to do anything at?all. Looks like I’ll have to do a clean install.
Since my most recent successful backup?was over a week ago, I’m going to lose a lot of recent financial and message records.?Without the ability to back up, I can’t figure out a way to save the last week’s files.?I’m sure not looking forward to this.?
Is that a bootable backup? Do you have ANY external volume that is bootable? If you do, you could boot from the external and clone your internal to an external volume before wiping it and doing a re-install.
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Hi
When you are in the Recovery Mode Disk Utility, what does it say is the free space on the disk?
If you don’t have storage capacity, you won’t be able to reinstall the operating system.
Paul
MacTech Services -- ?Supporting the Greater Los Angeles? Macintosh?Community since 1988. ? ? ? ? ? ?626-449-5529
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:19 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
Can you install Grand Perspective? It's only?4 MB.
Can't dl it.
If not, try Finder > Go > Go to Folder > /private/var/log
and see what's in there.
All small files and folders. One at 2 MB, then all in the KB range
Next step is to use Finder to drill down. Start with opt-cmd-i on Macintosh HD (for whatever your drive is called) then move down through the folder hierarchy, getting?the size for each.
I just don't see any unexpectedly large files anywhere. They must be hidden.
Here's what strikes me as strange: in About this Mac, System size fluctuates at 170 GB - 180 GB, while in the Finder and elsewhere, it is 10GB with "7GB on disk." I don't know what that means, but look at that anomaly. Doesn't that suggest a system malfunction rather than large files? Remember, I can't make a current backup. I don't want to lose my recent files, especially in Users. Recovery Mode seems to have the option to replace the OS without erasing the disk. What would happen if I tried that?
Another odd thing started happening just a few minutes ago: the dock has lost about half its icons which have been replaced by ?generic ones.
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Howdy. You are thinking of the Input Menu (used to have a flag icon for your selected language) and the default items on it called: Show Emoji & Symbols And Show Keyboard Viewer The icon is a square box as attached below. The Input menu is turned on (added to Menu bar) in Catalina and some earlier versions of OS X by going to System Preferences>Keyboard panel then click the Input Sources tab and check on Show Input menu in menu bar box. Denver Dan On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 07:14:41 -0600, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:
On Nov 2, 2019, at 5:24 AM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
Keyboard Viewer, as Otto says, is very convenient and has been around
in one form or another since 1984. But less useful than it used to be, I think. I remember (correctly, I
hope) a time when it linked to a Font menu, so that one could see the
entire spectrum of glyphs a given font could produce by bringing up
the keyboard map and selecting an individual typeface.
Of course, it’s possible that was provided by some 3rd party program
I no longer use, but I think it was an Apple freebie.
Jim Robertson
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:19 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
Can you install Grand Perspective? It's only?4 MB.
Can't dl it.
If not, try Finder > Go > Go to Folder > /private/var/log
and see what's in there.
All small files and folders. One at 2 MB, then all in the KB range
Next step is to use Finder to drill down. Start with opt-cmd-i on Macintosh HD (for whatever your drive is called) then move down through the folder hierarchy, getting?the size for each.
I just don't see any unexpectedly large files anywhere. They must be hidden.
Here's what strikes me as strange: in About this Mac, System size fluctuates at 170 GB - 180 GB, while in the Finder and elsewhere, it is 10GB with "7GB on disk." I don't know what that means, but look at that anomaly. Doesn't that suggest a system malfunction rather than large files? Remember, I can't make a current backup. I don't want to lose my recent files, especially in Users. Recovery Mode seems to have the option to replace the OS without erasing the disk. What would happen if I tried that?
Another odd thing started happening just a few minutes ago: the dock has lost about half its icons which have been replaced by ?generic ones.
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Re: it’s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Hi
Can you boot it up in target mode and copy the information?
Perhaps a bootable system with SuperDuper and/or Carbon Copy Cloner and make a copy of the system to an external drive? That way you won’t lose information as you do a fresh installation of the system, then use migration assistant for the Applications and user folder?
Paul
MacTech Services -- ?Supporting the Greater Los Angeles? Macintosh?Community since 1988. ? ? ? ? ? ?626-449-5529
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Can you install Grand Perspective? It's only?4 MB.
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If not, try Finder > Go > Go to Folder > /private/var/log
and see what's in there.?
Next step is to use Finder to drill down. Start with opt-cmd-i on Macintosh HD (for whatever your drive is called) then move down through the folder hierarchy, getting?the size for each.
Otto
Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing.?
Now, I’m afraid, the end is near. Available memory is 5 MB. Safari won’t open any web sites, Time Machine fails on backup, and I can’t run any software. I’ve done all the tests my resources allowed and now the OS doesn’t allow me to do anything at all. Looks like I’ll have to do a clean install. Since my most recent successful backup was over a week ago, I’m going to lose a lot of recent financial and message records. Without the ability to back up, I can’t figure out a way to save the last week’s files. I’m sure not looking forward to this.?
BTW, I can’t increase the storage BBC SSD because in the 2017 MacBook Pro it is soldered in place. Besides, as the System eats up more and more storage, increasing the amount of storage would only delay the inevitable.
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