I'm running Mohave; my wife has installed Catalina on her iMac.

It seems her older Microsoft applications for Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc are now obsolete?
on Catalina. And I see a notice on Mohave that once I update, the same will be true.

Apparently the App Store has updated Microsoft ?applications for Catalina but so far my
wife has had great difficulty downloading them.
Would someone guide me through a seamless process to install?

Any advice would truly be appreciated.
Rick

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 05:09 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

So, you've tried deleting all logs and that hasn't helped?

I ran OnyX a few days ago; now it is freezing and crashing.

Hi Julie!

I don’t have Microsoft Office of any variety and have no idea what you are talking about. I use Apple Pages which serves my meager needs. Sorry. But I thought that since I had no useful information to offer that I would not reply.

On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:28 AM, julie <wordsetc@...> wrote:

Hi again, I posted this back on 20 October and haven’t seen any responses to my query.

I’m wondering... is it inappropriate to post this here or is it just that there is no one here who has experience of this?

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2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2

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Once the service is activated on your new device, it is automatically available on your others. ?I set mine up on my new phone yesterday and then watched one of the new shows on my iPad. ?It’s also available for free on my Apple TV.

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Thanks I got the offer, and it was really easy to get the "one year free" on my new device, it wouldn't let me make that choice on my old device.?
Will it be just as easy to set up the "one-year free" on my Apple TV that I already use with the TV to watch everything else?
Thanks.
Carol Corley

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Thanks!! ?

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 08:13 PM, jimrobertson wrote:

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Thank you SO much, and I’m happy it turned out well. The grounding strap is something I’ve wondered about, because I’ve watched a bunch of OWC and iFixIt and other independent videos, and none of the people doing the disassembly/reassembly seem to be wearing them. Back in the days of the cute little box 128 K Mac, there could have been several thousand volts on the back end of the CRT for people who ventured inside, and there was no space to do what we could without being quite close to that gun. My understanding is that the threat to US is when working around the power supply, but the threat to the iMac itself is always there.

You're welcome Jim. When working on equipment where there are programs stored is where you need to make sure you don't have a static build up on your body. It only takes a few volts to scramble a program. Better safe than sorry.?

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Yes. A change. ?I tried to use Screeshot (Catalina) to capture the little menu but Screenshot is often buggy. It sort of froze in a kind of dark mode, menu brightly highlighted, and no screen cap file. I had to restart Mac.?

Howdy.

Otto, the "Flag" menu has changed in more recent version of macOS X.
It's called the Input menu and now has a Square icon withe 4 little
hollow square in it.

Keyboard Viewer, as Otto says, is very convenient and has been around
in one form or another since 1984.

Denver Dan




On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 10:52:28 +0000, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:

Don't forget that you can see and use these "special" characters in
Keyboard Viewer. This is in the "flag" menu in the top menu bar.

With the Keyboard Viewer window open, you can see the effect of the
various combinations of modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, Option).

Otto

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 20:44, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:

Howdy.

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This is a text character just like a letter a or b.

Type Option Shift k

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On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:21 AM, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote:

Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing.

So, you've tried deleting all logs and that hasn't helped?

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Each time I bump up the available storage by deleting or transferring to an external drive, the gain starts disappearing.?

Now, I’m afraid, the end is near. Available memory is 5 MB. Safari won’t open any web sites, Time Machine fails on backup, and I can’t run any software. I’ve done all the tests my resources allowed and now the OS doesn’t allow me to do anything at all. Looks like I’ll have to do a clean install. Since my most recent successful backup was over a week ago, I’m going to lose a lot of recent financial and message records. Without the ability to back up, I can’t figure out a way to save the last week’s files. I’m sure not looking forward to this.?

BTW, I can’t increase the storage BBC SSD because in the 2017 MacBook Pro it is soldered in place. Besides, as the System eats up more and more storage, increasing the amount of storage would only delay the inevitable.?

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 02:13 AM, jimrobertson wrote:

On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:54 PM, David Myers via Groups.Io <myavid76@...> wrote:

I am happy to report that the operation was a complete susses. The mew SSD arrived yesterday and I started the task today around 3 PM and finished around 9 PM. To take apart and clean inside and replace the hard drive took about 1hour. To take the screen apart to clean inside and reassemble took about 2 hours. This was a delicate task, not for the fainthearted. The rest of the time was spent copying the clone to the new SSD. Here are my tips for this job. Wear a ground strap and DO NOT use a vacuum to clean the inside, they can produce a ton of static electricity. Use compressed air. Make sure your wife is not watching when you blow the dust all over the house, I learned that one the hard way. And don't force anything just take your time.

Thank you SO much, and I’m happy it turned out well. The grounding strap is something I’ve wondered about, because I’ve watched a bunch of OWC and iFixIt and other independent videos, and none of the people doing the disassembly/reassembly seem to be wearing them. Back in the days of the cute little box 128 K Mac, there could have been several thousand volts on the back end of the CRT for people who ventured inside, and there was no space to do what we could without being quite close to that gun. My understanding is that the threat to US is when working around the power supply, but the threat to the iMac itself is always there.

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I’m following a discussion on Macintouch focused on what mods add the biggest boost to the iMac, and I’ll probably get going once that discussion is over.

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Thanks again,

Jim Robertson

Hi Folks,

???? I have dissected almost all of my iMacs going back to the one with the stainless steel stalk that held the screen (one of my favorites). It is absolutely worth it, even if the process is tedious and time consuming....it's the only way to really get the innards clean. Plus, you may be able to perform all sorts of upgrades. Going from a HDD to an SDD should be a no-brainer because the cooling requirements should be much less. WRT, static electricity....I alway use an anti-static mat with an alligator clip that attaches to the metal frame of whatever system I'm working on. If you run into a problem that you can't solve, (in my case, replacing failing capacitors in the power supply of my second iMac), then it may be time for an upgrade, but there is no reason, IMO, that an iMac should not last upwards to ten years. You might not have much support from Apple, but older systems still have value. And if all else fails, and you feel adventurous, you can always go the Hackintosh route.

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:15 AM, jimrobertson wrote:

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Still sitting on the fence regarding doing major surgery on my 2017 21.5” 4K iMac, I was all prepared to ask David to post after he’d done the exenteration (that, for a surgeon, basically means removing most of the internal abdominal organs) and the facial surgery (removing and replacing the screen). Then I consulted MacTracker and discovered that back in 2011, Apple seemed to understand that mere mortals might want to work inside their machines, and actually DID supply an access door on them to replace the RAM with higher density modules.

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But then I re-read David Myers initial post and realizes he wants to replace the drive and clean the inside of the screen as well. So, David, I’d be very grateful for a postoperative report, estimating:

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1. How long it took, start to finish
2. How many times you walked away from the table, cursing
3. If there was any step you performed that made you think you’d killed the computer, only to discover that you’d actually done it successfully.

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I am happy to report that the operation was a complete susses. The mew SSD arrived yesterday and I started the task today around 3 PM and finished around 9 PM. To take apart and clean inside and replace the hard drive took about 1hour. To take the screen apart to clean inside and reassemble took about 2 hours. This was a delicate task, not for the fainthearted. The rest of the time was spent copying the clone to the new SSD. Here are my tips for this job. Wear a ground strap and DO NOT use a vacuum to clean the inside, they can produce a ton of static electricity. Use compressed air. Make sure your wife is not watching when you blow the dust all over the house, I learned that one the hard way. And don't force anything just take your time.