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Cookout at the Hangar on Wednesday!

 

Bring yourself and encourage the rest of our merry band to come! There will be burgers, brats, side dishes, fixings, etc on the new (to us) grill that Mark and I picked up today . . .

Start eating around 1130 and go until . . .

Thanks to Steve Jarrell for his help . .. . all will be set.?

Alex & Mark


Re: Something new for Saturday Breakfast!

 

Durn. We will be out-of-town. J&N?


On Mon, Apr 28, 2025, 7:39?PM Alex Nelon via <alex.nelon=[email protected]> wrote:
Owen pulled some strings:

May 3rd (Sat) B’fast at the H’Ville CC Grill 7:30 am. Pay w/
Credit card. Avoid wearing blue jeans

Prices seem surprisingly reasonable.

Le Menu: (attached)


Something new for Saturday Breakfast!

 

Owen pulled some strings:

May 3rd (Sat) B’fast at the H’Ville CC Grill 7:30 am. Pay w/
Credit card. Avoid wearing blue jeans

Prices seem surprisingly reasonable.

Le Menu: (attached)


Re: C17 low pass at keho

 

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Yeah, imagine the cost!?!

Omg

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025, 2:27?PM Michael Cavanaugh via <michael-cavanaugh=[email protected]> wrote:
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?This retirement business is “gettin” outa hand! Low passes, fire trucks etc etc! All AF guys should be required to march in a parade, get all their gongs and then head to the O Club buy a round or two and wax eloquent until closing time! That’s Old School!
Mike ?

On Apr 28, 2025, at 13:44, Timothy Higgins via <timothyahiggins=[email protected]> wrote:

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Some guy flying an Air Force c17 is retiring, 2nd? low pass here at 1:30


Take care,

Tim H.


Re: C17 low pass at keho

 

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?This retirement business is “gettin” outa hand! Low passes, fire trucks etc etc! All AF guys should be required to march in a parade, get all their gongs and then head to the O Club buy a round or two and wax eloquent until closing time! That’s Old School!
Mike ?

On Apr 28, 2025, at 13:44, Timothy Higgins via groups.io <timothyahiggins@...> wrote:

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Some guy flying an Air Force c17 is retiring, 2nd? low pass here at 1:30


Take care,

Tim H.


Re: C17 low pass at keho

 

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?This retirement business is “gettin” outa hand! Low passes, fire trucks etc etc! All AF guys should be required to march in a parade, get all their gongs and then head to the O Club buy a round or two and wax eloquent until closing time! That’s Old School!
Mike ?

On Apr 28, 2025, at 13:44, Timothy Higgins via groups.io <timothyahiggins@...> wrote:

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Some guy flying an Air Force c17 is retiring, 2nd? low pass here at 1:30


Take care,

Tim H.


Re: Hmmm

 

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I am willing to bet those are CAP CADETS or ROTC. On the plus side no one is staring at their cell phone while the instructor is talking!
Mike

On Apr 28, 2025, at 12:43, Brian Leverson via groups.io <sotatwin@...> wrote:

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Interesting observation, Sid.? Below is an enlargement of the image.? There is one fellow in the back with his hand resting on his chin.? Maybe he is more engaged by this particular?topic.? Impossible to say for sure.? I see the validity of both Sid and Mark's observations. Males dominate A&P maintenance and aviation in general, as well as most mechanical fields.? In such an environment, males feel more at ease than many females.? And many more boys than girls grow up working with their fathers in the garage or shop, and may be more familiar and possibly jaded with the subject matter.? In the end, aviation, especially general aviation, needs more certified mechanics, whether male or female.

Brian


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On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:03?PM Mark Cigal via <mcigal38=[email protected]> wrote:
Sid,
? That's a very interesting read on your part. I think it could also be taken as the women are willing to" listen and learn", and the guys are thinking "I know all this stuff" ! It would really be interesting to see who the performers are in that group. My guess is there are more females in the "shining star group" than males...

Mark

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:45?AM Sid Tolchin via <Sidtolchin=[email protected]> wrote:

I’m fairly sure many of us receive General Aviation News every day as I do and appreciate the quick review it offers in the latest aviation occurrences.

Today’s article was a bit different and I’d like to share an impression (My unfortunate psychiatric training is responsible for this, so apologies).

Please study this photo that illustrated one of the newsworthy items today:


Did you see it?

I found it really interesting that all of the men in this group of A&P students uniformly held their arms in an adversarial or “crossed arms” position while all of the women (again uniformly) held theirs in a submissive position.

With the increasing validity of the real worth of women in aviation, I was disturbed by this. I’d really like to have seen the women cross their arms to accentuate their value rather than to have assumed what appears to an observer to be a position of subservience.
Our gals in the WASPS, the 99’s, the WIA, so many other worthwhile groups and the great female pilots (aviators) and instructors I’ve known and trained with deserve acknowledgement and appreciation. I don’t expect them to be bossy but at least equal. They have to know this and act accordingly.
Vive La Difference!!






C17 low pass at keho

 

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Some guy flying an Air Force c17 is retiring, 2nd? low pass here at 1:30


Take care,

Tim H.


Re: Hmmm

 

Interesting observation, Sid.? Below is an enlargement of the image.? There is one fellow in the back with his hand resting on his chin.? Maybe he is more engaged by this particular?topic.? Impossible to say for sure.? I see the validity of both Sid and Mark's observations. Males dominate A&P maintenance and aviation in general, as well as most mechanical fields.? In such an environment, males feel more at ease than many females.? And many more boys than girls grow up working with their fathers in the garage or shop, and may be more familiar and possibly jaded with the subject matter.? In the end, aviation, especially general aviation, needs more certified mechanics, whether male or female.

Brian


image.png

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 12:03?PM Mark Cigal via <mcigal38=[email protected]> wrote:
Sid,
? That's a very interesting read on your part. I think it could also be taken as the women are willing to" listen and learn", and the guys are thinking "I know all this stuff" ! It would really be interesting to see who the performers are in that group. My guess is there are more females in the "shining star group" than males...

Mark

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:45?AM Sid Tolchin via <Sidtolchin=[email protected]> wrote:

I’m fairly sure many of us receive General Aviation News every day as I do and appreciate the quick review it offers in the latest aviation occurrences.

Today’s article was a bit different and I’d like to share an impression (My unfortunate psychiatric training is responsible for this, so apologies).

Please study this photo that illustrated one of the newsworthy items today:


Did you see it?

I found it really interesting that all of the men in this group of A&P students uniformly held their arms in an adversarial or “crossed arms” position while all of the women (again uniformly) held theirs in a submissive position.

With the increasing validity of the real worth of women in aviation, I was disturbed by this. I’d really like to have seen the women cross their arms to accentuate their value rather than to have assumed what appears to an observer to be a position of subservience.
Our gals in the WASPS, the 99’s, the WIA, so many other worthwhile groups and the great female pilots (aviators) and instructors I’ve known and trained with deserve acknowledgement and appreciation. I don’t expect them to be bossy but at least equal. They have to know this and act accordingly.
Vive La Difference!!






Re: Hmmm

 

Sid,
? That's a very interesting read on your part. I think it could also be taken as the women are willing to" listen and learn", and the guys are thinking "I know all this stuff" ! It would really be interesting to see who the performers are in that group. My guess is there are more females in the "shining star group" than males...

Mark

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:45?AM Sid Tolchin via <Sidtolchin=[email protected]> wrote:

I’m fairly sure many of us receive General Aviation News every day as I do and appreciate the quick review it offers in the latest aviation occurrences.

Today’s article was a bit different and I’d like to share an impression (My unfortunate psychiatric training is responsible for this, so apologies).

Please study this photo that illustrated one of the newsworthy items today:


Did you see it?

I found it really interesting that all of the men in this group of A&P students uniformly held their arms in an adversarial or “crossed arms” position while all of the women (again uniformly) held theirs in a submissive position.

With the increasing validity of the real worth of women in aviation, I was disturbed by this. I’d really like to have seen the women cross their arms to accentuate their value rather than to have assumed what appears to an observer to be a position of subservience.
Our gals in the WASPS, the 99’s, the WIA, so many other worthwhile groups and the great female pilots (aviators) and instructors I’ve known and trained with deserve acknowledgement and appreciation. I don’t expect them to be bossy but at least equal. They have to know this and act accordingly.
Vive La Difference!!






Hmmm

 

I’m fairly sure many of us receive General Aviation News every day as I do and appreciate the quick review it offers in the latest aviation occurrences.

Today’s article was a bit different and I’d like to share an impression (My unfortunate psychiatric training is responsible for this, so apologies).

Please study this photo that illustrated one of the newsworthy items today:


Did you see it?

I found it really interesting that all of the men in this group of A&P students uniformly held their arms in an adversarial or “crossed arms” position while all of the women (again uniformly) held theirs in a submissive position.

With the increasing validity of the real worth of women in aviation, I was disturbed by this. I’d really like to have seen the women cross their arms to accentuate their value rather than to have assumed what appears to an observer to be a position of subservience.
Our gals in the WASPS, the 99’s, the WIA, so many other worthwhile groups and the great female pilots (aviators) and instructors I’ve known and trained with deserve acknowledgement and appreciation. I don’t expect them to be bossy but at least equal. They have to know this and act accordingly.
Vive La Difference!!


Re: RV4 at Shelby

 

That was a picture from last year's open house .? Yes, Uncanny resemblance.

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On Sun, Apr 27, 2025, 7:51?PM Bill Kemper via <Bill3558=[email protected]> wrote:
Wow, she looks just like Nancy!?
Beautiful aircraft.?
Was today open house?




On Sunday, April 27, 2025, 5:29 PM, Timothy Higgins via <timothyahiggins=[email protected]> wrote:

I met the builder/owner of this RV4 today in Shelby . Super interesting IA who's helped build at least 6 RVs (?).?
He does aerobatics in it .? Evidently, it won an award at Sun-n-fun after it was completed, years ago.

Tim H.


Re: YouTube movie “The Pilot”

 

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Alex,
? ? ? ?Thank you for this recommendation. I saw the movie “The Pilot” on Amazon Prime video. Riveting action, especially good flying and combat scenes. Very entertaining, although truthfully dark. The Russian front was hell in WW2. Ever read “The Blond Knight of Germany”? True story about the highest scoring ace in history, Eric Hartmann of Germany on the Russian front. The Germans bragged they killed three Russians for every German lost, the problem being there were four Russians in the Red army for every German.
Thanks for dynamic display of heroism.
Best Regards - George Heddy.

On Apr 15, 2025, at 10:20?AM, Sid Tolchin via groups.io <Sidtolchin@...> wrote:

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Great shots. Thanks.

On Apr 14, 2025, at 11:02?PM, Alex Nelon via groups.io <Alex.nelon@...> wrote:

?A Russian film … once through the first few minutes I was hooked. It’s a great story. Tough to watch at times. Subtitles.

Every country has its heroes.



Re: RV4 at Shelby

 

Wow, she looks just like Nancy!?
Beautiful aircraft.?
Was today open house?




On Sunday, April 27, 2025, 5:29 PM, Timothy Higgins via groups.io <timothyahiggins@...> wrote:

I met the builder/owner of this RV4 today in Shelby . Super interesting IA who's helped build at least 6 RVs (?).?
He does aerobatics in it .? Evidently, it won an award at Sun-n-fun after it was completed, years ago.

Tim H.


RV4 at Shelby

 

I met the builder/owner of this RV4 today in Shelby . Super interesting IA who's helped build at least 6 RVs (?).?
He does aerobatics in it .? Evidently, it won an award at Sun-n-fun after it was completed, years ago.

Tim H.


What a day! A job well done! Almost ready for Airplanes in the museum hangar!

 

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Begin forwarded message:

From: Alex Nelon <alex.nelon@...>
Subject: What a day! A job well done! Almost ready for Airplanes in the museum hangar!
Date: April 26, 2025 at 10:37:18?PM EDT

The last hangar door is up!

Thank you, all who were there. 14 of us managed to complete the initial part of the job in record time - just under 3 hours - and all that is left is the weather stripping and holdbacks so they don’t drift open while airplanes are being moved in and out.
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Dan topside, Dennis at the bottom, Bill watching (they also serve who gaze in wonder), Jerry sweeping (they also serve, etc), Pete in the background doing something (?).?

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Tim A explaining the finer points of floor sweeping. Management is essential.?

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Placement of bottom rollers . . . everybody got into the act. This door went really smoothly . . . a great crew makes the work flow right along.

Ed and the paramotor club installed weather stripping all morning and will be back to do what they can this week (we may need more material)?

There’s still some basic cleanup to do but we’re just about ready for the first airplanes to come home!

The next big step is paving a taxiway from the apron on the NW end of the Museum hangar to the museum taxiway … that is supposed to start late next week and should, if all goes according to plan, be ready for use about 2 weeks from now.

A few hours with friends, doing something really worthwhile, beats the heck out of going to car shows or flying jets (you KNOW who you are).

Thank you .. Thank you .. Thank?You, all who were there and all who have been there all along in this project. Your just showing up means a lot . . . a LOT.

-Alex and Mark




Ride to KRKW 4/27

 

Is anyone available tomorrow to give me a lift from 0A7 to KRKW? Arrow avionics are finally finished and it’s ready for pickup.

Thanks,
Dan
401-447-0371


Mustang is open

 


The Last Hangar Door! Saturday Start 9:30-10

 

Gents, we're at the end! One door to go.

With all our newly-acquired ?expertise we should be able to knock this one out in under 3 hours. Plus Dan Field will have a place to put his airplane!

After cleanup and a new asphalt taxiway to connect the museum side of the hangar to the museum's taxiway, we'll have a really nice facility - better than before.

Hope to see you there . . . if you've been bringing tools, please bring them again. Most of the manpower effort will be early, leaving the hinges and bottom roller installation to a few. We might start the cleanup, breaking down shipping pallets, etc for the burn pile and collecting all the metal bits, screws, etc before our tires do.

Thank you again for tackling this project .. it's been a fun education.

All the best

alex


Re: Air brush

 

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I think somebody posted an airbrush rig they wanted to get rid of here some time back . .. try Darwin or one of the other model makers


On Apr 23, 2025, at 7:51?PM, Mark Cigal via groups.io <mcigal38@...> wrote:

Greetings,
? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.

Mark