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Re: QY100 display light

 

Hi prea, good seeing you in this forum too.
I will advise against replacing the QY screen for an AN1x screen, since they are different. I own an AN1x (and in the AN1x mailing list too) and it has been mentioned before that it is a custom hybrid screen.

see this image:?

You can see the pixel area (title of the patch) and the EDIT, UNISON and POLY images are custom built on the LCD.

Also, it is known that the AN1x backlight may die (mine is perfect, but it is a known problem).


Re: QY100 display light

 

Right, thanks for clarifying Damiano.
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I've just found you mentioned in your first post, about the EL backlighting mod. Sounds a bit troublesome as you say, although the result looks nice.
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That page also links to about a not very successful side-lighting attempt. I think the author tried to use the existing gap in the metal frame around the LCD instead of opening a larger gap, and also did not use any kind of light diffuser.?


Re: QY100 display light

 

For anyone interested pics are here
/g/YamahaQY70AndQY100/album?id=244175

the gameboy frontlight sits between the LCD and the front panel, sandwiched.

Re: side lighting: no removal or peeling needed, just there is not room
enough (IMHO) on the LCD sides. Firthermore, the LCD assembly is hold
together by a metal frame that should be prforated in some way to make
light pass. There is some space on LCD top and bottom, instead, but the
metal frame is in the way as well.

Peeling the LCD assembly reflective back is mandatory only if you opt
for back lighting via electroluminescent panels. Not personally tried on
the QY, but have some experience with EL films: nice uniform light, easy
to work with, just the transformer is a pain in the (choose any
anatomical part of yours) for 1) its size, although small, the QY
innards are rather cramped, and 2) depending on the transformer, there
s'always some buzz in the audio part, which is not an option.

;)

On 20/01/21 12:55, Douglas Woodrow wrote:
I also spotted that thread, but in the end I can assure that the
gameboy frontlight is a 20 minute job, whereas the sidelighting has that
margin of risk-taling I'm not so fond of. Surely, the LCD field would be
better lighted, but then there is also peeling back the reflective film
from the original LCD...

Ah, I didn't realise it would require removing the reflective film. Have
you got a link to the GS thread you're referring to?
The one I posted is just about replacing the LEDs on the AN1x, nothing
about QY100.


Re: QY100 display light

 

I also spotted that thread, but in the end I can assure that the
gameboy frontlight is a 20 minute job, whereas the sidelighting has that
margin of risk-taling I'm not so fond of. Surely, the LCD field would be
better lighted, but then there is also peeling back the reflective film
from the original LCD...
Ah, I didn't realise it would require removing the reflective film. Have you got a link to the GS thread you're referring to?
The one I posted is just about replacing the LEDs on the AN1x, nothing about QY100.


Re: QY100 display light

 

Hi all!
Nice with the gameboy light - altho I cant visualise how it fits?
Above the screen, on the screen?
I had success with an IKEA USB gooseneck lamp.
Yes you have to adjust for glare but ANY extra light is good in a dark (atmospheric) room.
Here is how it looks.??You can see you get a round 'spotlight' effect but if you pull it away from screen no glare and some ambient lighting.?
Fine 4 me. No DIY or glue or anything :D





On Wednesday, 20 January 2021, 08:41:19 CET, prea <prea@...> wrote:


Hi Douglas,
? I also spotted that thread, but in the end I can assure that the
gameboy frontlight is a 20 minute job, whereas the sidelighting has that
margin of risk-taling I'm not so fond of. Surely, the LCD field would be
better lighted, but then there is also peeling back the reflective film
from the original LCD... summing up: there are lots of solutions, I did
my research and chose the most convenient for me. Mid-Februery the
replacement light will be in the mail.


PS: re GS thread, really appreciated ED comments on the AN1X, he's
sort-of guru on Mastering VAST Kurzweil forum, had an AN1X and is thanks
to him that we know that QY100/70 & AN1X have the same display, that is,
tha AN1X sports tha backlit version: go grab a broken AN1X and srap that
LCD...

all the best


On 20/01/21 01:42, Douglas Woodrow wrote:
> Hi Prea,
> Thanks for the reply and link to the actual ebay listing
> <>!
> ?
> Very tempted to get one too, although I would first like to investigate
> side-lighting, as is done on the AN1x synthesizer (see this thread on
> gearslutz
> <>
> for photographs).
> Do you think there is enough space on the sides of the LCD screen in the
> QY100? I suppose it will need a plastic diffuser strip as well as space
> for the actual LEDs.
>
> Good point too about the switch, I think I would also prefer the
> backlight off when possible.
>






Re: Low back-up battery display

 

'sequencing tips'... i'm thinking HARD about a little Arturia KeyStep... kind of undecided about the more expensive and bigger 37key version with more features that would also make a lot of sense. - why? ... well i love 'step-rest'etc sequencing like on a sh101 -or jx3p since the KS is a polyphonic sequencer. and you know how you can't hear the other parts while you're entering a step sequence -which may not bother anyone here, but i've found it... well, i realised, duh, that you can't hear the other parts, right.. so a Keystep could be really good with it. plus it's a little vel-sensitive keyboard with an arpeggiator, and some really useful stuff like analogue sync, dinsync. can even sequence 2 midi tracks, which you'd record into the QY in realtime, or have it clocking MIDI from analogue if you want to get complicated.

yeah so, that's my little idea for today :-)
just have to decide if i go for the little one or the slightly bigger one (costing more).

ah just thought: the 37 seems to need 12v 1.5A for some reason, whereas the 32 wants 9v 0.5A ...*if* you only run your QY off PSU, would there be any way to derive an Aux voltage output/pass-on to another device, and run them both off a single supply? (or have a splitter, i guess).
my QY came with a 9v supply and seems happy with that, although i think it's supposed to be rated for 12v (which i now use).
(yep, Eric, i think we've discussed this)

anyway: Keystep? d*mn cool little keyboard/sequencer IMO


Re: Low back-up battery display

 

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Pretty sure you can still save to the SmartMedia card with a dead internal battery (but must be done manually), but you¡¯ll really want to replace that internal battery since loss of external power will lose your work.. Once the internal battery is replaced you should be good for upto 10 years of storing 20 songs and 64 patterns in the device. ?Note: Yamaha has mentioned that leaving a smart media card in the device when stored can shorten internal battery life... so only out it in when you want to save/load from it. ? ?Also, avoid formatting smart media on a pc card reader as that has been known to corrupt them, use the device instead. ?(Good advice for any device storage media IMHO).

The battery is a CR2032, and on the QY100... to replace...you remove the back by unscrewing the back screws and then opening like a book with the edge closest to the battery door as the spine (so to speak)...reason is because there is a cable there that attaches to the battery compartment. ? ?Once open you can probably reach in and unplug the battery compartment cable and separate the two halves.

Next you¡¯ll see a copper shield held on by two screws... unscrew those and lift the copper shield and you will see the battery... To remove battery you SLIDE it toward the spring edge and it will pop-up... Take the battery out abd out the new one in the same way and then gently push it in while sliding it toward spring then hold it down and let the spring push it back under it¡¯s tabs.

The lay the copper shield back (be careful to ensure it is tucked in at tge top where it is still attached. And then replug in battery cable and close it back up like a book and put the back screw in... and you¡¯re done.

(Note: Unlike the QY100, the QY70 does not have a copper shield and the battery compartment is soldered so you cannot simply unplug the battery compartment, but the rest still applies and it still easy to replace the internal battery on the QY70.

Regarding lighting screen:
People have put LED side lighting inside the QY70/QY100 but it is a very tight fit.. others have installed EL Panels which really makes for the most uniform backlighting IMHO, but it is also the most complex. ?I think the nintendo front light is a good idea unless you feel really comfortable with your tech skills as the other internal solutions are much more intensive and technical.


["The longest journey starts with the first step."?- Lao Tzu]


On Jan 19, 2021, at 3:47 PM, Daniel Corralez <svg010819@...> wrote:

?Greeting & salutations all:

I am glad to see there is a community for these! ?The bad news would be that I got out my QY100 for the first time since I won it in an EBay auction towards the beginning of last year: When I first turn it on, I get the ¡°low back up battery¡± message. ?I have changed the AA batteries a few times, but the message persists. ?Also, I noticed that the data I enter in does not save when I turn it off. ?So I have two questions: (1) does anyone know the fix for this problem? and (2) I currently do not have a card for my QY-will I still be able to save data when my card arrives? ?(Found an 8mb on EBay for a good price: probably should have asked these questions before I ordered the card!). I am thankful for any help or advice. ?

SVG






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Re: Low back-up battery display

 

SVG- I had the same issue when I returned to my QY-70 after a 20 year hiatus. What you need is a new lithium battery. I bought the Energizer 2032 at Walmart. It¡¯s about the size of a dime. If you¡¯re careful enough, you can undo the back of the sequencer and exchange it yourself. Mine took roughly 5 minutes. Let me know if this works and feel free to pass on any sequencing tips. Carry on!
Gary

On Jan 19, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Daniel Corralez <svg010819@...> wrote:

?Greeting & salutations all:

I am glad to see there is a community for these! The bad news would be that I got out my QY100 for the first time since I won it in an EBay auction towards the beginning of last year: When I first turn it on, I get the ¡°low back up battery¡± message. I have changed the AA batteries a few times, but the message persists. Also, I noticed that the data I enter in does not save when I turn it off. So I have two questions: (1) does anyone know the fix for this problem? and (2) I currently do not have a card for my QY-will I still be able to save data when my card arrives? (Found an 8mb on EBay for a good price: probably should have asked these questions before I ordered the card!). I am thankful for any help or advice.

SVG





Re: Low back-up battery display

 

I second QYedit, buy a CR2032 cell, replacement takes 5 minutes, the
"lesser" QYs (100 & 70) have a battery holder. Energizer or Duracell,
please. Or a computer-grade BIOS power cell. CR2032 as well.

I also have a QY700, and its internal 2032 is still going strong after
more than 20 years(Silver oxide batttery), but I already have a holder
for CMOS/BIOS batteries ready at hand for emergency, since in the 700 &
300 the battery is _soldered_!

On 19/01/21 21:49, QYedit via groups.io wrote:
:-) yeah, it means the internal lithium cell battery. quite easy to
change. get a decent quality one.


Re: QY100 display light

 

Hi Douglas,
I also spotted that thread, but in the end I can assure that the
gameboy frontlight is a 20 minute job, whereas the sidelighting has that
margin of risk-taling I'm not so fond of. Surely, the LCD field would be
better lighted, but then there is also peeling back the reflective film
from the original LCD... summing up: there are lots of solutions, I did
my research and chose the most convenient for me. Mid-Februery the
replacement light will be in the mail.


PS: re GS thread, really appreciated ED comments on the AN1X, he's
sort-of guru on Mastering VAST Kurzweil forum, had an AN1X and is thanks
to him that we know that QY100/70 & AN1X have the same display, that is,
tha AN1X sports tha backlit version: go grab a broken AN1X and srap that
LCD...

all the best

On 20/01/21 01:42, Douglas Woodrow wrote:
Hi Prea,
Thanks for the reply and link to the actual ebay listing
<>!
?
Very tempted to get one too, although I would first like to investigate
side-lighting, as is done on the AN1x synthesizer (see this thread on
gearslutz
<>
for photographs).
Do you think there is enough space on the sides of the LCD screen in the
QY100? I suppose it will need a plastic diffuser strip as well as space
for the actual LEDs.

Good point too about the switch, I think I would also prefer the
backlight off when possible.


Re: QY100 display light

 

Hi Prea,
Thanks for the reply and link to !
?
Very tempted to get one too, although I would first like to investigate side-lighting, as is done on the AN1x synthesizer (see for photographs).
Do you think there is enough space on the sides of the LCD screen in the QY100? I suppose it will need a plastic diffuser strip as well as space for the actual LEDs.

Good point too about the switch, I think I would also prefer the backlight off when possible.


Re: Low back-up battery display

 

:-) yeah, it means the internal lithium cell battery. quite easy to change. get a decent quality one.


Low back-up battery display

 

Greeting & salutations all:

I am glad to see there is a community for these! The bad news would be that I got out my QY100 for the first time since I won it in an EBay auction towards the beginning of last year: When I first turn it on, I get the ¡°low back up battery¡± message. I have changed the AA batteries a few times, but the message persists. Also, I noticed that the data I enter in does not save when I turn it off. So I have two questions: (1) does anyone know the fix for this problem? and (2) I currently do not have a card for my QY-will I still be able to save data when my card arrives? (Found an 8mb on EBay for a good price: probably should have asked these questions before I ordered the card!). I am thankful for any help or advice.

SVG


Re: QY100 display light

 

On 19/01/21 10:30, QYedit via groups.io wrote:
fantastic, with ebay link 'and everything' :-) (been auto-logged-out and
very lazy not to log back in...)
nice'n'cheap ! what are the other kits by the same vendor? no good?
Did not try any other kits: did a lot of research last year, and I came
out with that kit, bought one and last spring it became unavailable, now
I saw there is a new version (looks identical, I'll receive mine next
month).

i did actually pass a 'host select' cable in a car-boot sale ... :lol:
You lucky! You now would need a pair of adapters (PS/2-like Apple serial
connector to D-sub, and D-sub to USB...). I am using a standard DIN MIDI
cable, hooking the QY through an UM-880 (but a cheap midisport would do
as well, tried it) and I conveniently run the QY100 data filer under
Wine on my Linux (KXStudio) laptop.

so does anything bad happen if it accidentally gets switched? no MIDI?
No, nothing at all: I'm going by hart, will have a look at the
schematics lately. That slider switch on the QY back routes to ground
the PS2 connector in two different ways: when switched on MIDI the
ground is sent to a non connected pin. That is, when on "MIDI", the
switch actually does _nothing_. When switched in the other positions,
nothing changes.

to recap (3 second goldfish memory) : so this sits *in front*? of OG
screen? i have never dismantled the QY that far,
only to change battery. no issues with space?
Yap. It site behind the plastic screen, and in front of the LCD. IT fits
perfectly as a slice of ham in a sandwich: bread 1 is the front plastic
screen, bread 2 is the LCD inside. You have to use two strips of sticky
(very sticky!) tape included qith the kit. I uploaded a bunch of photos
on the groups site...

how is your battery consumption? (i never use batteries, doesn't last
long enough, as OG)
Well, the QYs are known to be real hogs: the display's LEDs actually add
a few milliamperes to a system that drains out six AA cells in 4 hours.
In other word, battery consumption is already a problem without the
light. I saw that someone uses 2000-2500 mAh rechargeable cells.



Re: QY100 display light

 

fantastic, with ebay link 'and everything' :-) (been auto-logged-out and very lazy not to log back in...)
nice'n'cheap ! what are the other kits by the same vendor? no good?

i did actually pass a 'host select' cable in a car-boot sale ... :lol:
so does anything bad happen if it accidentally gets switched? no MIDI?

to recap (3 second goldfish memory) : so this sits *in front*? of OG screen? i have never dismantled the QY that far,
only to change battery. no issues with space?

how is your battery consumption? (i never use batteries, doesn't last long enough, as OG)


Re: QY100 display light

 

Hi Douglas
first and foremost, no LOCA glue, no irreversible operations, no risk
taking with our precious QYs! Just two stripes of (rather powerful!)
double sided sticky tape. My only advice is work in a clean, clean clean
(did I say clean?) environment, lots of compredded air, gloves on. Not
joking, see further.

The light I used comes and goes on eBay as a mod for the Nintendo
GameBoy. As you have seen, I hooked it straight to the +3V rail, it's a
year now and I have no issues, except for a small scratch I made (my
fault) while I dediced to "clean up better" the screen: a clear
demonstration of the deep truths behind the "if ain't broken dont'fix
it" rule. That's because I did not care so much about "clean area" work.

The Host Select Switch was a sort of out of the blue idea while studying
the QY100 schematics: I did not want to pierce the QY case in any way
(see above). I am just not so satisfied because when the QY is hooked up
to my rig I would rather turn the light off, and that would cut off
MIDI, which is not an option. There is no other way using that switch,
since that position (MIDI) closes up a "not connected" pin straight to GND.
Other positions can be tried... noone uses kinda funny serial cables in
2021 (a bit of nostalgia here for my RS232 cables...). An alternative
would be placing the miniature switch sold with the lighting kit in the
battery compartment... will perhaps give a try and report.



Here's the link, about 14 $... and I'm buying a new one to replace the
scratehed one, it itches, indeed... pulled the trigger while writing
this, thank you for the inspiration ;)

On 05/01/21 00:42, Douglas Woodrow wrote:
Nice work, that's an ingenious idea to use the host select switch for
the light, thank you for writing it up!
Could you please provide a link to the specific GBA light kit you used?
I'm assuming from your description about the ease with which you
installed it that it did not involve LOCA glue and was more successful
than this attempt on YouTube
<>??


Re: QY100 display light

 

Nice work, that's an ingenious idea to use the host select switch for the light, thank you for writing it up!
Could you please provide a link to the specific GBA light kit you used?
I'm assuming from your description about the ease with which you installed it that it did not involve LOCA glue and was more successful than ??


Re: Qy100 blank screen

 

That¡¯s a good point about the battery leak possibility. ?It¡¯s worth mentioning if you mix baking soda (not baking powder) with vinegar it will actually help dissolve battery corrosion even more effectively than vinegar alone. ? Also if battery corrosion gets on the PCB you could use a good electronic contact cleaner spray to remove (at least some of) the surface corrosive battery chemicals without impacting the electronics...thus preventing more issues down the line.

?I have used this stuff to thoroughly clean the PCB (but I did make sure to remove PCB from case so as to not spray display, keyboard, etc).

CRC Electronics Cleaner:?


Another thought (since is seems to boot up) is to do a blind factory reset... though this will cause you to lose all patterns and songs (except for presets).


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Re: Qy100 blank screen

 

Are you using batteries or AC? I had my QY70 working fine on AC, but it flaked on batteries. Much like you describe. I opened it to try to fix some dead horizontal lines on the screen and saw corrosion near the battery compartment. I cleaned it case and compartment (not PCB) with white vinegar then rinsed and batteries work fine now.?


Sound Card Libraries

 

Hi Friends.....should have mentioned that these spind card libraries would be for the Yamaha QY100.Thanls? All.?