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Re: Feather River Thursday, 1987

 

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Mike,

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Are any of the old WP Broncos still and service.? If not, what does UP use now?? Do those Broncos work out of the crew districts?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Tisdale via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [ObservationCar] Feather River Thursday, 1987

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Thank you, Richard.

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And, yes, there are many rockslides in the canyon, both on the railroad and highway side.? The highway was recently closed by a side for a couple of months, but it has reopened.

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In bad weather, trains are preceded by hi rail vehicles to warn of track problems.? These were originally Ford Broncos (as the factory that made Broncos was served by WP) and the radio call signs of them are still "Bronco xxxx".? Now that Ford is making Broncos again, maybe UP will get some.

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On Thursday, January 20, 2022, 03:38:58 PM PST, RICHARD GREENWOOD <steam.richard@...> wrote:

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Greetings

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Fantastic shot

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I bet all the pw men (gandy dancers) always wear their hard hats.

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RSG

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Sent: Thursday, 20 Jan, 22 At 22:48
Subject: Feather River Thursday, 1987

July 3, 1987

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Feather River Canyon: UP 3808 east at the Honeymoon Tunnels, Rock Creek Reservoir, California

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¡ª at Feather River Canyon, California.

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Re: Feather River Thursday, 1987

 

Thank you, Richard.

And, yes, there are many rockslides in the canyon, both on the railroad and highway side.? The highway was recently closed by a side for a couple of months, but it has reopened.

In bad weather, trains are preceded by hi rail vehicles to warn of track problems.? These were originally Ford Broncos (as the factory that made Broncos was served by WP) and the radio call signs of them are still "Bronco xxxx".? Now that Ford is making Broncos again, maybe UP will get some.

Mike Tisdale

On Thursday, January 20, 2022, 03:38:58 PM PST, RICHARD GREENWOOD <steam.richard@...> wrote:


Greetings


Fantastic shot


I bet all the pw men (gandy dancers) always wear their hard hats.


RSG




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Sent: Thursday, 20 Jan, 22 At 22:48
Subject: Feather River Thursday, 1987

July 3, 1987

Feather River Canyon: UP 3808 east at the Honeymoon Tunnels, Rock Creek Reservoir, California

¡ª at Feather River Canyon, California.




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Feather River Thursday, 1987

 

July 3, 1987

Feather River Canyon: UP 3808 east at the Honeymoon Tunnels, Rock Creek Reservoir, California

¡ª at Feather River Canyon, California.




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Roseville Sunset for Wednesday, 2013

 

Union Pacific GP38 and ES44AC at Roseville, California 18 Jan 2013


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Mike Tisdale


Haggin Tuesday, 2009

 

January 18, 2009?

At Haggin, we see UP 4978 leading a westbound manifest as it crosses over the ex-WP Sacramento Sub. In the distance, through the underpass, the Sac Sub's American River bridge can be seen. The units are EMD SD70Ms.

2022: Today this has changed. The C Street grade crossing is closed and fenced off, so you'd need to walk in from D Street along the Sacramento Sub to stand here.

Both railroads here are Oakland, California to Utah routes. The train is on the original Central Pacific transcontinental line built in the 1860s. It is headed due west. I'm standing next to the Western Pacific line, which runs north-south between Oroville and Stockton. At Oroville, it turns east to the Feather River Canyon. The CP line is shorter, but the grades over Donner Pass are steeper than the WP line through the canyon.

On the left, the Sacramento Northern Bikeway uses the old SN interurban bridge, just downstream of the WP bridge, to cross the American River and connect with the bike trail on the north side of the river. See less

¡ª in Sacramento, California.



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Martinez Monday, 2015

 

The Ozol yard power switches though the station at Martinez, California

17 January 2015



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Sacramento to San Jose Sunday, December 2021

 

On 11 December 2021, I took a trip to San Jose and San Francisco via the Amtrak Capitol Corridor from Sacramento to San Jose, VTA light rail in San Jose, Caltrain to San Francisco, SF Muni to Ocean Beach in SF and back, BART to Richmond and Amtrak back home. This is the first part of the trip from Sacramento to San Jose and then VTA to from the Cahill St. station to downtown San Jose, where I had lunch at a fish and chips restaurant my wife and I had found some years ago. More to follow.




Mike Tisdale


Fw: 1952 City of San Francisco Facebook Thread

 

A friend sent these photos of the City of San Francisco stuck in the snow at Yuba Pass, California 70 years ago.? The train hit a snowslide and stopped and the efforts to rescue the train turned into a tragicomedy of errors.? ??

Here is the story.??

I've seen many black and white photos of the train and the rescue, but these are the first color shots I've seen.

20 years ago, several of us went to Yuba Pass for a day of train watched on the 50th anniversary of the train getting stuck.? It was sunny and traffic was moving fine.? The girls had fun playing in the snow.??

Mike Tisdale

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From: Paul Lanyi Jr <Cdogh@...>
Date: 1/15/22 8:30 AM (GMT-08:00)

I noticed Stan and Roger had already acknowledged that post this morning.
But I want to pass along a heads-up to those who perhaps haven't.

I may only link to Facebook about once a week now, and miss a lot of
good posts.

These scans were posted to Steve Passmore's thread. I used to attend some of
his slide shows 15+ years ago. These are slides he received and scanned from a
person who actually participated in the recovery efforts. These 'color images'
surprised most everyone commenting, as they were the first in color they had seen.

City of San Francisco snowed in ?Sunday January 13, 1952






Friday Dusk, 2019

 



January 12, 2019??

UP 5292 eastbound. leaves town past the Tower Theater.

In Roseville, California

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Mike Tisdale



Butterfield Thursday, early 1990s

 

Early 90s, Butterfield light rail station, Sacramento, California, Siemens LRV and SP GP9s on the Folsom Turn. When Sacramento's light rail system was first built, Butterfield was the east end of what is now called the Gold Line. The light rail train is at the end of the line as SP's Folsom Turn comes by.

In the 30 years or so since I took this. the light rail line has been extended to Folsom and the GP9s were replaced with newer Geeps, GP15-1, GP38-2, GP40-2 and/or GP60 in various combinations and, now, SD70s and SD59MXes, and today is a UP operation.



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Re: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

 

Not a play on words or accents, but when Grahame McDonald, Phil Kilburn and I were returning from India and Sri Lanka in February 1980, we caught the 1550 or 1650 Kings Cross? to Leeds HST.? The train was almost as packed as some of the trains we'd ridden in India and Sri Lanka (we got a cab ride on the Kandy-Colombo train as the driver took pity on us being wedged into the coach...people had to take turns breathing, with half the car breathing in as the other half breathed out, it was that crowded) and the guard suggested before leaving that maybe some people might want to catch the following train before we left.??

We pulled out of Kings Cross with people standing wedged in everywhere and headed to our first stop at Peterborough or wherever.??

When the guard made his announcement for the first stop, he ended it with, "....and for those of you standing, ready, steady, go!"

The train erupted in laughter.

Mike Tisdale

Photos, the crowd on the platform at Kandy, Sri Lanka, awaiting the train to Colombo and the train arriving.?






On Thursday, January 13, 2022, 05:52:44 AM PST, Dave Hodson <dave.hodson21@...> wrote:


And of course there is the old favourite:

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¡°We have a latest score from Scotland and so far its Forfar four and East Fife five¡±

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Not as good as the train one though which I hadn¡¯t heard before

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Dave Hodson

Dave.hodson21@...

0419 038 736

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Click on here to listen live:???

(Send me a text whilst listening if you would like a shout-out)

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From: Grahame McDonald [mailto:grahame_robert_mcdon@...]
Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2022 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

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A station 'announcement' at Edinburgh Waverley goes something like this (you have to say it quickly!!):-

"The train at platform five is the four fifty four for Forfar and Fife; the front five are for Forfar and the rear four for Fife".

Grahame.

On 13 January 2022 at 00:28 steam.richard@... wrote:

Greetings

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Most of you may have heard this before.

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In 1983 or 1984 I was on the train from Manchester to Fort William. At Preston the Liverpool portion was attached to the Manchester portion and we set off. The Guard spoke over the intercom with a broad East Lancashire accent.

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"Welcome aboard the Liverpool and Manchester train for Glasgow and Edinburgh. Glasgow in front, Edinburgh in rear, Buffet Car situate in the Edinburgh portion. The next stop will be Lancaster where you should change for Berlin and Morecambe."

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I thought about this and it was Motherwell, just short of Glasgow when the penny dropped and I realised that the Queen's English version of what Guard had said was "....Lancaster where you should change for Bare Lane and Morecambe."

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Yes there was a small halt called Bare Lane.

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From: "Mike Tisdale" <tisdalem2001@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 23:30
Subject: Re: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

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As a boy, when I read about the Stockton and Darlington, I thought it ran near me!

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I was also a bit confused about the Sound of Music, how did the Trapp family get from Australia to Switzerland?? Then I found Austria on a map and got that bit, but wondered how Captain von Trapp was a naval commander for a country that didn't have a coastline? The Nazis wanted a guy who'd run boats on the Danube River??? Eventually I understood about the size of Austro Hungary before 1918, but as a kid, there were some mysteries that took a bit more knowledge to overcome.

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On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 02:15:10 AM PST, <steam.richard@...> wrote:

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Different Stockton to what I was expecting!



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Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 05:04
Subject: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

Stockton, California ATSF station and eastbound Z train. I was waiting for a San Joaquin train to go to Bakersfield with some friends.

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31 May 2014

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Re: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

 

As a boy, when I read about the Stockton and Darlington, I thought it ran near me!??

I was also a bit confused about the Sound of Music, how did the Trapp family get from Australia to Switzerland??? Then I found Austria on a map and got that bit, but wondered how Captain von Trapp was a naval commander for a country that didn't have a coastline?? The Nazis wanted a guy who'd run boats on the Danube River???? Eventually I understood about the size of Austro Hungary before 1918, but as a kid, there were some mysteries that took a bit more knowledge to overcome.??

Mike

On Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 02:15:10 AM PST, <steam.richard@...> wrote:



Different Stockton to what I was expecting!



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Sent: Wednesday, 12 Jan, 22 At 05:04
Subject: Stockton Tuesday, 2014

Stockton, California ATSF station and eastbound Z train. I was waiting for a San Joaquin train to go to Bakersfield with some friends.

31 May 2014


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Stockton Tuesday, 2014

 

Stockton, California ATSF station and eastbound Z train. I was waiting for a San Joaquin train to go to Bakersfield with some friends.

31 May 2014


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Re: Sierra Snow Sunday, 2022

 


Thank you, Andy.??

Yeah, dogs are good companions for train watching.? If nothing else, instead of being the suspicious person with a camera by the track, you become someone walking dogs.

Mike Tisdale
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 01:56:32 PM PST, Andy Smith <andysmith22@...> wrote:


Very cool shots! Thanks for sharing!

Dogs and trains, doesn't get much better....


Re: Sierra Snow Sunday, 2022

 

Very cool shots! Thanks for sharing!

Dogs and trains, doesn't get much better....


Del Paso Monday, 2014

 



10 Jan 2014, northbound BNSF train stopped in Del Paso siding. 4 BNSF GEs and an NS SD60. The WP searchlight signals are still in service here.

Del Paso is north of downtown Sacramento, California on the UP Sacramento Sub, the former Western Pacific 2nd Sub. BNSF trains have trackage rights on UP from Stockton to Keddie.??



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Sierra Snow Sunday, 2022

 

The dogs and I had a day in the snow on Saturday, 8 January 2022.? We followed the eastbound California Zephyr from Colfax to Soda Springs and saw the good layer of snow that recent storms have dropped on the mountains.??

A BNSF eastbound was waiting in Colfax when we got there just before the Zephyr was due.? It soon left and then #6 followed it into and out of town.? As the Zephyr arrived, as westbound UP freight net it.

I got photos of the Zephyr rounding Cape Horn and then went up? the mountain.? I considered Blue Canyon, but looking at the condition of the road, I did not want to try it in my car.? I then pulled off at Nyack to try to get trackside at Emigrant Gap, but that was a traffic jam of people trying to park to play in the snow.??

After pausing at the scenic overlook, we eventually saw the train ar Yuba Pass, then beat it to Soda Springs.? I was shooting video of the dogs in the snow when the train showed up and I just kept the cell phone going as I shot stills with the DSLR.??

A quick trip east to the Donner Summit overlook on old US 40 and then it was time to head for home.




Mike Tisdale




Re: SLO Surfliner Saturday, 2019

 

SLO isn't huge, but it is home to a university and has decent restaurants. It is the midway point on the LA - SF Coast Route and the base of Cuesta, the crossing of the mountains for the railroad and US 101 to the Salinas Valley.??

North of SLO, SR 1 is built along spectacular coastal cliffs, going by Big Sur en route to Monterey.? Most people have seen photos and video of SR 1 as it is often used for movies and ads.?

The roads over the mountains to the San Joaquin Valley go through some very remote country.? We have almost 40 million people in California and the SF Bay Area has the population density of the Netherlands,? but there are lots of middle of nowhere places as well. Major roads such as 99 and 101 have people,? but make a left turn off of them and you can soon be in mountains or farmland with few people?

Mike


On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 8:26 AM, Grahame McDonald
<grahame_robert_mcdon@...> wrote:

To, perhaps, redress the balance, I have stayed overnight in SLO twice while driving down 'Route1', staying both times in 'independent' motels, rather than one of the 'chains', and found the accommodations good and the people friendly. Whilst far from being a 'metropolis' it's not exactly small and we found that, even many years ago, it was 'home' to several 'brew pubs' of an acceptable standard when taking into account that the 'beer revolution' in America was in its comparative infancy. I would happily overnight there again.

Grahame McDonald.? ??

On 09 January 2022 at 10:38 Graham Bentley <graham.bentley@...> wrote:


I well remember that drive to our next Motel 6 on Highway 5. We passed no more than 7 vehicles all that way.


On 09/01/2022 09:59, RICHARD GREENWOOD wrote:
We were in San Luis Obispo one day. Seemed a bit of a one horse town. Turning off the Coast Rod towards Bakersfield the sings read something like "No gas 120 miles" and was a long detour off the direct road anyway.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Mike Tisdale" <tisdalem2001@...> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "Dieter Hochhaus" <lehgudi.zwei@...>; "Alwyn Smith" <alwyn.smith@...>; "Grahame McDonald" <grahame_robert_mcdon@...>; "Barry" <fossilbarry@...>; "Graham Bentley" <graham.bentley@...>; "Assen Stoyanov" <assenstoyanov@...>; "KennethRoberts" <kenbobby1234@...>; "Michael Nestler" <munda-nestler@...>; "Jock Adams" <aajadams@...>; "Dave Hodson" <dave.hodson21@...>; "johnsagar@..." <johnsagar@...>; "Tony Green" <lizandtony1986@...>; "Roderick Moore" <engineman70c@...>; "Chris Bates" <chrisbates31@...>; "Simon Talbot" <s.j.n.talbot@...>; "Vic Drake" <drake.victor.g@...>; "Calrailfans" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 9 Jan, 22 At 07:53 Subject: SLO Surfliner Saturday, 2019
4 March 2019, San Luis Obispo, California. P42 #144 leads a Pacific Surfliner into the station. SLO is the north end of Pacific Surfliner service.
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SLO Surfliner Saturday, 2019

 

4 March 2019, San Luis Obispo, California.? P42 #144 leads a Pacific Surfliner into the station.? SLO is the north end of Pacific Surfliner service.?



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Sacramento Light Rail Friday, 2021

 

Colorfully wrapped CAF car 228 of? Sacramento, California Regional Transit on an inbound Gold Line train at 21st Street.? 3 August 2021

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