Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
The ting is that the increase in price is still not being shown in my “next renewal” information although I don’t have any doubt that it will increase now. This is really fishy. I probably will keep it and won’t downgrade because I can afford two or three bucks if this give me the opportunity to use AI features in a limited way, but I don’t like the way it is being done. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:14 PM, Leo Bado wrote: Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase?
When they say, "Existing subscribers won't experience price changes until their next renewal, "? you can be darned sure that price increases will be involved. But, you can be equally certain that you'll be warned well ahead of your renewal date and given the opportunity to "downgrade" to the "Classic" M365 Personal or Family so that you keep the same services you had during the non-AI era. As soon as they tell me that my $99/year is going up to something significantly higher at a renewal date I'll be downgrading.? If it's a trivial increase in price, say $1 or $2 a month, if I end up finding the integrated Copilot functionality useful to me I might keep it. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:35 PM, Don wrote:
Can this be made to go away fully or is it being forced on us?
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Don, the short answer is, "yes, it can be made to go away fully."
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The long answer is this all depends on the environment (what you can do in M365 Family or Personal is entirely different than what you may be able to do on centrally administered M365).
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Has he done what's documented here if he's using Personal or Family?:
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
I have a Jaws customer who wants Copilot uninstalled. After supposedly uninstalling it, we went into Word and the message came up about hitting alt I and writing with Copilot. Can this be made to go away fully or is it being forced on us? Thaks. ? Don ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Leo Bado via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 6:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."? M365 rocks! ? “Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.” ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? “With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??“ ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn’t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I’m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Hmm, interesting. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."? Yes. ?The price is going up by $30 per year. ? ? Now I’m a bit confused. Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase? At first I thought it wasn’t but now I’m not so sure, I can’t find the specific detail, but it makes sense if I take into consideration the information provided in the first link.? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." “Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.” Read the official announcement ?in the following link: “With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??“ Read? how the credit system works in the following link: I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn’t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I’m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." ?
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:25 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
The price is going up by $30 per year.
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Where did you see this?? I'm curious to find MS sources regarding pricing.? Others are just speculation, so if this did come from something official from Microsoft, please post a link.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:14 PM, Leo Bado wrote:
Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase?
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When they say, "Existing subscribers won't experience price changes until their next renewal, "? you can be darned sure that price increases will be involved.
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But, you can be equally certain that you'll be warned well ahead of your renewal date and given the opportunity to "downgrade" to the "Classic" M365 Personal or Family so that you keep the same services you had during the non-AI era.
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As soon as they tell me that my $99/year is going up to something significantly higher at a renewal date I'll be downgrading.? If it's a trivial increase in price, say $1 or $2 a month, if I end up finding the integrated Copilot functionality useful to me I might keep it.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Yes. ?The price is going up by $30 per year.
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On Jan 16, 2025, at 17:14, Leo Bado via groups.io <leobado1982@...> wrote: Now I’m a bit confused. Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase? At first I thought it wasn’t but now I’m not so sure, I can’t find the specific detail, but it makes sense if I take into consideration the information provided in the first link.? ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? ? M365 rocks! ? “Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.” ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? “With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??“ ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn’t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I’m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Now I’m a bit confused. Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase? At first I thought it wasn’t but now I’m not so sure, I can’t find the specific detail, but it makes sense if I take into consideration the information provided in the first link. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Leo Bado via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."? M365 rocks! ? “Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.” ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? “With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??“ ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn’t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I’m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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"M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
M365 rocks! ? “Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.” ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? “With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??“ ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn’t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I’m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Re: Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
Thanks Brian, I will give that a try.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: 16 January 2025 19:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
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Have you followed the steps at the end of that page in the section that starts out with: ?Manual Workaround?
I literally sent this page to someone I know this morning.? Many techs have had to resort to the Manual workaround, which means removing the third-party access for Microsoft Apps on the Google side of the equation, then starting the process
in Outlook Classic from scratch.
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Re: Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
Have you followed the steps at the end of that page in the section that starts out with: ?Manual Workaround?
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I literally sent this page to someone I know this morning.? Many techs have had to resort to the Manual workaround, which means removing the third-party access for Microsoft Apps on the Google side of the equation, then starting the process in Outlook Classic from scratch.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
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Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
You have denied Office access to Google - IMAP.
Please grant Office access to Google - IMAP and try again.
For more information:
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I Have checked the more information link but still can’t get it to connect for some reason.
Anyone have any ideas, it keeps mentioning Local Host.
I Have a work or school account that I sign in to, not sure if a policy is being applied or something.
My Gmail account has two factor authentication.
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I can't speak to what anyone might be doing, but remember that Ctrl + Y is the redo command in a very great many contexts, and if you happen to be in a context within Outlook where something could be re-done, that's probably what's happening.
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The Ctrl + Z and Ctrl + Y undo-redo pair of commands are very widespread.
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If Shift + F6 works, that's almost certain to not have any possibility of collision and be 100% reliable.?
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I love this group! I had completely forgotten about control+y and usually use control+shift+tab, which can be glitchy. I just tried control+y and it is much easier! Shift+f6 works too!
Thanks!
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
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Hi Andy and all,
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I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn’t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert to using Shift+F6 and keep
going rather than restarting Outlook..
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Susan
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I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11.
I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn’t work and I can’t switch folders.
I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn’t.
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I Have found this as well and re-starting Microsoft Outlook seems to work, the classic version.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: 16 January 2025 06:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
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Hi Andy and all,
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I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn’t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert
to using Shift+F6 and keep going rather than restarting Outlook..
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Regards
Susan
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I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11.
I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn’t work and I can’t switch folders.
I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn’t.
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Andy
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
Hi Andy and all, ? I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn’t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert to using Shift+F6 and keep going rather than restarting Outlook.. ? Regards Susan ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work? I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11. I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn’t work and I can’t switch folders. I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn’t. ? Andy ?
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CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11. I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn’t work and I can’t switch folders. I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn’t. ? Andy ?
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Announcement Only: End of Support for Office 2016 and 2019 as well as Windows 10 occurs on October 14, 2025
End of Support for Windows 10, and Office 2016 and 2019, occurs on October 14, 2025.
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For Office 2016 and 2019 and there will be no extension and no extended security updates.
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I expect that Windows 10 extended support will be available for businesses and at a high expense, but can't be sure about that. ?Windows 10 Home is likely to have no extension nor any extended security updates.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
This always happens with messages with large amounts of content, such as dozens of quoted messages.? I have found an example and let FS know my example. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? When I open some messages in Outlook-365 JAWS completely locks up. I can’t navigate through the message and JAWS stops talking. This happens with messages which have a lot of links or apparently have mor complex structures. For example, I got a message about an upcoming from my Amazon subscribe and save . When I tried opening the message JAWS locked up. JAWS did finally speak, but when I tried arrowing down the message JAWS locked dup again. Is anyone else having this issue? Anyone got a fix? I’m using the latest JAWS and Outlook-365. I just upgraded to Windows-11, but this also happened on Windows-10. Thanks John
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Re: [WinAccess] Outlook 365 junk emails entering my inbox.
Hi Brian, I am using Outlook 365 and also Outlook on the web. I have check the settings on the Outlook on the web and I can’t see any changes that should be letting the spam go into my inbox. So I am assuming? and update change something. Mr. Ed ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] [WinAccess] Outlook 365 junk emails entering my inbox.? Most spam filtering takes place on the server side of things these days rather than the client (Outlook) side. What email provider (or providers) is (are) involved? Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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