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Re: The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
Leo Bado
开云体育For folks who want to downgrade, after going through all the process, I suggest going to file, accounts, and update your license on this screen. You can do it in any of the Office apps. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2025 12:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Special] [M365-Accessibility] The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs ? I hope that what follows will calm some of that storm before it makes a direct hit: ? 1. Yes, Microsoft has announced that Copilot AI will now be included with M365 Family and Personal Plans by default.? This was supposed to have started on January 16, 2025, worldwide. 2. No, there will not be any price change until your next renewal date arrives, at which point, if you didn't downgrade to M365 Family or Personal Classic (about which more, later) your cost will increase by $30/year to have M365 with Copilot. 3. Yes, it appears that Microsoft has given those of us who don't want the Copilot AI included to avoid having anything change when the next renewal comes.? You will have it for free until that point. ? This is the announcement regarding Copilot now being included in M365 Family and Personal, but also includes instructions on how to downgrade to classic before one's next renewal date: ? ? I direct the readership's attention to this part of that announcement, specifically, if one does want to "stick with what you've currently got" which is what the Classic versions of M365 Family or Personal are: ---- Downgrade to Microsoft 365 Personal or Microsoft 365 Family Classic 2. Activate the Manage Subscription control (first one in that page) which presents a list of options.? Arrow down to? Cancel subscription and activate. 3. To downgrade to another plan with fewer features, select Microsoft 365 Personal Classic or Microsoft 365 Family Classic, or another plan that works for you. 4. Follow the instructions to complete the switch. Your existing subscription might not change immediately, but it will automatically switch to the new plan at renewal. You will not be charged for the new plan until it renews.? ---- ? Note well that you can perform the downgrade in advance of your renewal date, and that you will keep your current billing rate with the Classic plan when your renewal is processed.? So, if you play with Copilot in the M365 Office Suite programs during the period between January 16, 2025, and your renewal date, and decide at any point you don't want it when the free trial up through renewal is over, then follow the above noted instructions to stick with what you've got. ? This is the ONLY information I have, and since my own renewal date is not until the month of August, I will not be doing the downgrade to Classic for my next renewal until I have had enough time playing with the trial to decide if I want to keep the integrated Copilot features or not. ? It would be much appreciated if those who do follow the above noted instructions report back on how the process worked and whether it was accessible.? My guess is that when you cancel your existing service you'll immediately be asked if you want to resubscribe at a different service level, which would be the newly created Classic level if you want to keep everything as it has been. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
The latest storm of chaos from a Microsoft Announcement of changes to the default M365 Personal and Family Plans to include Copilot Functionality in the Office Programs
I hope that what follows will calm some of that storm before it makes a direct hit:
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1. Yes, Microsoft has announced that Copilot AI will now be included with M365 Family and Personal Plans by default.? This was supposed to have started on January 16, 2025, worldwide.
2. No, there will not be any price change until your next renewal date arrives, at which point, if you didn't downgrade to M365 Family or Personal Classic (about which more, later) your cost will increase by $30/year to have M365 with Copilot.
3. Yes, it appears that Microsoft has given those of us who don't want the Copilot AI included to avoid having anything change when the next renewal comes.? You will have it for free until that point.
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This is the announcement regarding Copilot now being included in M365 Family and Personal, but also includes instructions on how to downgrade to classic before one's next renewal date: ?
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I direct the readership's attention to this part of that announcement, specifically, if one does want to "stick with what you've currently got" which is what the Classic versions of M365 Family or Personal are:
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Downgrade to Microsoft 365 Personal or Microsoft 365 Family Classic
1. Go to Services & subscriptions. Sign in with the Microsoft account associated with your subscription, if prompted.? [Note: I've found the easiest way to get directly where you need to be is to do the following in MS-Word: ?Hit Alt + F, D, Y 3? (File Backstage View, Accounts, Manage Account button) this opens your Subscriptions page in the web browser for the Microsoft Account under which you hold the subscription for the M365 you're using at that moment. 2. Activate the Manage Subscription control (first one in that page) which presents a list of options.? Arrow down to? Cancel subscription and activate.
3. To downgrade to another plan with fewer features, select Microsoft 365 Personal Classic or Microsoft 365 Family Classic, or another plan that works for you.
4. Follow the instructions to complete the switch.
Your existing subscription might not change immediately, but it will automatically switch to the new plan at renewal. You will not be charged for the new plan until it renews.?
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Note well that you can perform the downgrade in advance of your renewal date, and that you will keep your current billing rate with the Classic plan when your renewal is processed.? So, if you play with Copilot in the M365 Office Suite programs during the period between January 16, 2025, and your renewal date, and decide at any point you don't want it when the free trial up through renewal is over, then follow the above noted instructions to stick with what you've got.
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This is the ONLY information I have, and since my own renewal date is not until the month of August, I will not be doing the downgrade to Classic for my next renewal until I have had enough time playing with the trial to decide if I want to keep the integrated Copilot features or not.
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It would be much appreciated if those who do follow the above noted instructions report back on how the process worked and whether it was accessible.? My guess is that when you cancel your existing service you'll immediately be asked if you want to resubscribe at a different service level, which would be the newly created Classic level if you want to keep everything as it has been.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: Sending an attachment
If it's a document I worked on recently, I tend to use alt, n, a, f and arrow down to the document I want to paste. Otherwise, I'll do what Leo describes below.
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-- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Leo Bado via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 3:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] sending an attachment Hi, assuming you're using the Outlook classic desktop app, the easiest way is to navigate to wherever you have the file you want to attach in the file explorer as if you were just looking for a file in your folders, once you find it, just push control plus C to copy the file, then go back to the message in Outlook, place the cursor of the screen reader in the message body, and push control plus V to paste it. The file is automatically attached. TO check it is already attached, just push shift plus tab to jump into the attachment section, or push insert plus A if you're using Jaws. Cheers, Leo Bado. "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Deborah Palmer via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 3:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [M365-Accessibility] sending an attachment Hi How do I send an attachment using 365 please? Thank you Debbie |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
开云体育NoI mean microsoft word. This is now in my subscription. I just used it today to refine some notes I was taking. I've not used it in excell as of yet, however I'm not sure I will actually.
Take care and happy friday. On 1/17/2025 11:09 AM, Leo Bado via
groups.io wrote:
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NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Leo Bado
开云体育If you meant “Excell functions” then I believe I saw something related to this in Copilot, if I recall well, document must be saved in OneDrive. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 11:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits." ? I think microsoft did say the price will increase, this per winaero's blog. It is worth it though. I was having a? play and all I can say is "wow! I did send feedback about th e "prompt" function as it does not seem to do anything. or nvda is misbehaving. On 1/16/2025 3:14 PM, Leo Bado via groups.io wrote:
Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit] NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit] Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit] |
Re: searching for an email
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 11:38 AM, Leo Bado wrote:
What’s the difference between using control plus E or using control plus shift plus F? -
Ctrl + Shift + F invokes the advanced find dialog, which gives a lot more precise control, but is, as a result, a lot more complicated.
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Ctrl + E invokes the basic find where all you can do is enter your search terms and specify the scope of the search as far as how broadly to look.? The options on that are:
Current Folder
Subfolders
Current Mailbox (which would include its subfolders, if any) - default
All Mailboxes
All Outlook Items
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The two entries above Current mailbox can be used to scope the search more tightly, and the two that follow it to scope the search more broadly.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
开云体育It seems worth it. I'm paying for it by month though. I have no idea if my messge about my beaf with the prompt field got sent, fi not I'll work on it later. I'm in the middle of work. Happy friday all. On 1/16/2025 3:25 PM, Brad Snyder via
groups.io wrote:
Yes. ?The price is going up by $30 per year. --
---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind.???to read my story.? Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit]
NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
开云体育I think microsoft did say the price will increase, this per
winaero's blog. It is worth it though. I was having a? play and
all I can say is "wow! I did send feedback about th e "prompt"
function as it does not seem to do anything. or nvda is
misbehaving. On 1/16/2025 3:14 PM, Leo Bado via
groups.io wrote:
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---------- Sarah Alawami, owner of flying Blind.???to read my story.? Microsoft Windows Windows 11 22H2 (10.0.22621) workstation AMD64 [64 bit]
NVDA 2023.3 [32 bit]
Microsoft Office?16.0.17029.20028 [64 bit]
|
Re: searching for an email
Leo Bado
开云体育What’s the difference between using control plus E or using control plus shift plus F? ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 10:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] searching for an email ? It's simple. ? When you initially hit Ctrl + E, you are thrown into the edit box where you should enter your search criteria.? After having done so, hit Shift + Tab, which throws focus to the "where to search" dropdown, which has "Current Mailbox" as the default choice. ? Hit enter and select from the dropdown list where it is you want to search.? There are increasing levels of scope for the search in the list. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: searching for an email
It's simple.
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When you initially hit Ctrl + E, you are thrown into the edit box where you should enter your search criteria.? After having done so, hit Shift + Tab, which throws focus to the "where to search" dropdown, which has "Current Mailbox" as the default choice.
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Hit enter and select from the dropdown list where it is you want to search.? There are increasing levels of scope for the search in the list.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
searching for an email
开云体育I am searching for an email using control e but I need to tell Outlook to search all folders since I don’t know what I did with it. Does anyone know how to tell Outlook to search all folders or the entire mailbox or whatever the right syntax would be. Thanks very much. ? Don ? |
Re: Sending an attachment
Copy the item you wish to send
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Open your mail, and go through your steps to create a new mail. In the body of the emffail paste the copied item. Send the email, and it will go attached. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Deborah Palmer via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 01:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [M365-Accessibility] sending an attachment Hi How do I send an attachment using 365 please? Thank you Debbie |
Re: Sending an attachment
Leo Bado
Hi, assuming you're using the Outlook classic desktop app, the easiest way
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is to navigate to wherever you have the file you want to attach in the file explorer as if you were just looking for a file in your folders, once you find it, just push control plus C to copy the file, then go back to the message in Outlook, place the cursor of the screen reader in the message body, and push control plus V to paste it. The file is automatically attached. TO check it is already attached, just push shift plus tab to jump into the attachment section, or push insert plus A if you're using Jaws. Cheers, Leo Bado. "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Deborah Palmer via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 3:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [M365-Accessibility] sending an attachment Hi How do I send an attachment using 365 please? Thank you Debbie |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:57 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
I do qualify based on my agency e-mail. -
You would be well-advised to consult with your agency's IT department as the first point of contact, and they should be able to contact Microsoft as far as getting things back on track.? You, as the end user, are not likely to be able to do much.
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If push comes to shove, try angling in through Microsoft Accessibility Support.? They could be a back door to a solution.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
开云体育Sorry let me clarify.? It is a one time thing. You don’t keep verifying it every year.? I do qualify based on my agency e-mail. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 7:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits." ? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:40 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
- No, Enes, it is not.? From the very page you directed me to:? "Through eligible employers, save on select Microsoft 365 subscriptions. Enter your work email address to see if you qualify.?" ? You have to enter an email address, associated with some entity that has the necessary licensing arrangements with Microsoft, to see if you qualify.? If I enter one of my Gmail addresses (which, obviously, wouldn't qualify) within a few moments I get an email from Microsoft at that address saying: ? You’re not eligible for the Workplace Discount ProgramThanks for your interest in the Microsoft Workplace Discount Program. Based on your email address, {REDACTED}, we’re unable to offer you the Workplace Discount Program through your current employer. If you have questions about your eligibility, please contact an admin in your human resources or information technology department. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:40 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
It is universal, meaning it is a flat discount, no further eligibility requirements. -
No, Enes, it is not.? From the very page you directed me to:? "Through eligible employers, save on select Microsoft 365 subscriptions. Enter your work email address to see if you qualify.?"
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You have to enter an email address, associated with some entity that has the necessary licensing arrangements with Microsoft, to see if you qualify.? If I enter one of my Gmail addresses (which, obviously, wouldn't qualify) within a few moments I get an email from Microsoft at that address saying:
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You’re not eligible for the Workplace Discount ProgramThanks for your interest in the Microsoft Workplace Discount Program. Based on your email address, {REDACTED}, we’re unable to offer you the Workplace Discount Program through your current employer. If you have questions about your eligibility, please contact an admin in your human resources or information technology department. --
Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
开云体育Brian, It is universal, meaning it is a flat discount, no further eligibility requirements. Given this Brian, is it worth hunting for better discount codes for Office online?? Is the $49 for personal a good deal? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 7:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits." ? On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 07:59 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
- No, as company discounts are negotiated by specific employers for employees (usually contingent on ongoing employment).? I don't have any idea of what the licensing was for the version you had at $49/year. -- Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |
Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 07:59 PM, enes sar?ba? wrote:
Do you know how I can get company discount back? -
No, as company discounts are negotiated by specific employers for employees (usually contingent on ongoing employment).? I don't have any idea of what the licensing was for the version you had at $49/year.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881 |