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Live film footage 1939? Historical records with Nikolai Svanidze. (Polish Belarus Russian)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDear group, live historical film footage of German invasion, prisoners taken, villagers reactions and counter attack by Russian Army?? Amazing live film footage of life back then. ? Uploaded on May 2, 2011 43 §Ó§í§á§å§ã§Ü §±§â§à§Ú§Ù§Ó§à§Õ§ã§ä§Ó§à: §²§à§ã§ã§Ú§ñ, 2003 §¶§Ú§Ý§î§Þ §ª§ã§ä§à§â§Ú§é§Ö§ã§Ü§Ú§Ö §ç§â§à§ß§Ú§Ü§Ú §ã §¯§Ú§Ü§à§Ý§Ñ§Ö§Þ §³§Ó§Ñ§ß§Ú§Õ§Ù§Ö. ? Lenarda, Australia |
Siberia trains etc. - You-tube - Belarussian
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI cannot understand the language but I can understand what is happening which has been learned from KS. Photos and videos tell the story, ?It is still horrific. ? ?? §¤§µ§§¡§¤ ??Uploaded on Jan 11, 2008 §¤§Ý§Ñ§Ó§ß§à§Ö §å§á§â§Ñ§Ó§Ý§Ö§ß§Ú§Ö §Ý§Ñ§Ô§Ö§â§Ö§Û. §²§Ö§á§â§Ö§ã§ã§Ú§Ú. ? §¯§¬§£§¥( §¬§Ñ§â§Ý§Ú§Ü§Ú §Ô§à§Þ§à§ã§Ö§Ü§ã§å§Ñ§Ý§Ú§ã§ä§í §¬§â§Ö§Þ§Ý§ñ §¦§Ø§à§Ó) NKVD- Ezhov ?- ? 1900 ¨C 1940+ ?ending with live footage of Gulag labour and camp - Uploaded on Oct 23, 2011 §¯§Ñ§æ§ä§Ñ§Ý§Ú§Û (§¯§Ñ§ä§Ñ§ß) §¶§â§Ö§ß§Ü§Ö§Ý§î §Ö§Ó§â§Ö§Û.§ª§Þ§Ö§ß§ß§à §¶§â§Ö§ß§Ü§Ö§Ý§î §á§â§Ú§Õ§å§Þ§Ñ§Ý, §Ü§Ñ§Ü §à§á§ä§Ú§Þ§Ú§Ù§Ú§â§à§Ó§Ñ§ä§î §ä§â§å§Õ §Ý§Ñ§Ô§Ö§â§ß§í§ç §Ù§Ñ§Ü§Ý§ð§é§Ö§ß§ß§í§ç, §ã§Õ§Ö§Ý§Ñ§Ó §Ö§Ô§à §Þ§Ñ§Ü§ã§Ú§Þ§Ñ§Ý§î§ß§à §á§â§à§Ú§Ù§Ó§à§Õ§Ú§ä§Ö§Ý§î§ß§í§Þ §Ú §Þ§Ú§ß§Ú§Þ§Ñ§Ý§î§ß§à §Ù§Ñ§ä§â§Ñ§ä§ß§í§Þ. ? Lenarda, Australia ? ? |
The Poles who saved Europe - you tube (Polish language)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHistorical photos and film footage. Polacy, Kt¨®rzy uratowali europe (The Poles who save europe)? Lenarda, Australia ? ? |
The Polish-Bolshevik War 1919-1921 - you tube (English language)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThis documentary video, with a bit of Hollywood? Thrown in, shows how immense was the battle and how courageous were our people, back then, so it is no surprise that this valour, this spirit helped defeat the Germans in WWII and how it must have hurt to be betrayed and lose that ?precious treasure, which was Poland, after the last ounce of strength was given in the fight and the lives of the Polish people now exiled. Lenarda, Australia |
Re: 3DSK to Pahlevi - Antoni 530
Antoni you have a wonderful memory. This is from the Mieczyslaw Czerkawski book' "Bylem Zolnierzem Generala Andersa" (quick translation) From Habaniya army vehicles driven by Sikhs transported us through the Transjordan to the border of Palestine. We were put on a bus and driven to a transit camp at (Gederze?). There we found out that 3DSK was formed on May 3rd. To this newly formed division were added 10th Infantry Division troops that recently came from the ZSRR. Also, Zbigniew Wawer's book "From Buzuluk to Monte Cassino" p. 45 states "On 7 April 1942 Gen. Sikorski sent a signal to Gen. Joezef Zajac ordering him to expand the Independent Carpathian Rifle Brigade into a division. By the end of the month he ordered to form a Polish corps of two divisions in the Middle East. On 3 May at Quastina camp in Palestine the 9th and 10th Infantry Divisions newly arrived from the USSR were merged with the Independent Carpathian Rifle Brigade to form a new division named the the 3rd Carpathian Rifle Division (3DSK) with Gen. Kopanski as its commander."
Warm regards - Ewa D. - Nevada |
The Great Hunger - Wielki Glod - Holodomor - 1932 - 1933 - you tube (Belarussian)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHistorical photos of this horrific time 1932-1933. ?you do not need to read the language to understand the photos. Regards, Lenarda, Australia |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] biblioteka kresowa
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCarol, if no description, no signature, no country ¨C then it is considered ?that a members email has been compromised and this? is SPAM TO BE DELETED AS IT MAY CONTAIN VIRUS. Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Carol Hornby Clements
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 6:47 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] biblioteka kresowa ? ? What is this link about please? I do not like to open it? It may not be relevant to my research. I do not read Polish. Please can people give a hint about these links?? Regards Carol UK Carol C H C
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¶Ù³ú¾±±ð°ù?²â¨½²õ³ú³¦³ú²â³ú²Ô²¹ - you tube - 1917-1926 old photos and videos (Belarus and Polish language)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOld photo and videos? of Feliks Dzierzynski founder ¶Ù³ú¾±±ð°ù?²â¨½²õ³ú³¦³ú²â³ú²Ô²¹, in office 1917-1926 ?(now ?Belarus) ¨C below information copied and added to from Wiki. ? ¶Ù³ú¾±±ð°ù?²â¨½²õ³ú³¦³ú²â³ú²Ô²¹ was a Polish Autonomous District in , near and close to the Soviet-Polish border of the time. It was created on March 15, 1932, with its capital at (, Dzerzhynsk, formerly known as Kojdanava : °´ÇÂá»å²¹²Ô¨®·É). It was named after the . ?Similarly to Marchlewszczyzna, limited Polish autonomy in the area was a real fact, with Polish-language schools, libraries and institutions. At the same time, the inhabitants were subject to intensive communist propaganda. Religious life was suppressed, and the campaign of collecivization, carried out in mid-1930s, met resistance of local Polish peasants. ? Unlike Marchlewszczyzna, which was the real center of Polish cultural life in the Soviet Union, ¶Ù³ú¾±±ð°ù?²â¨½²õ³ú³¦³ú²â³ú²Ô²¹'s influence was limited with Marchlewsczyzna disbanded 1935 - in Wolyn as experimental Autonomous District (the area of my mother¡¯s village of Niwna), during the first wave of repression .? Both failed and the participants were liquidated or put to work on collective farms or used as other means of State labour force. Polish districts were among those which resisted Soviet and . For political reasons, drastic measures were initially not applied in these areas. Eventually, Marchlewszczyzna was disbanded in 1935 at the onset of the and most of the administration was executed. In the following years, many men were shot (some sources, such as Russian organization put the number of the murdered Poles at 111,091), women and children deported to and other remote areas of the Soviet Union. More than 50,000 Poles were executed in places like or , many others were executed or starved in Kazakhstan. ¶Ù³ú¾±±ð°ù?²â¨½²õ³ú³¦³ú²â³ú²Ô²¹ existed three years longer; it was disbanded in 1938. According to Polish sources, up to 70,000 Poles from Soviet Ukraine were forcibly resettled in Kazakhstan in late 1930s. Also, around 20 000 Poles were then deported from Soviet Belarus.All Polish schools and libraries were closed, Tomasz D?bal was executed in 1938. After , in both Polish and Soviet , the existence of the districts was omitted, perhaps because the authorities of both countries wanted to avoid uneasy questions about sudden rejection of the Leninist postulate of the rights of nations for . ? Feliks Dzierzynski - ?- Polish writing, Belarus singing. Picture is words. ? ? wonderful old videos and photos, great historical value, ?even if you do not understand language, picture? is? words. ? regards, Lenarda, Australia ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Orborski Family was ( Re: Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDear Marta, ?the Oborski family was researched back in October 2012 on KS.? There could be a connection, a common thread. Wait until the other members get on line, they have much knowledge. Kind regards, Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Marta Debska
Sent: Tuesday, 07 May, 2013 5:31 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland ? ? Dear Group, ? I'm a new member, below few words about me and my family: ? my mother is trying to made a family tree, but she founds same gaps in the family history. That's why we are looking for information about family Oborski (from Petryk¨®w, near Tarnopol). We know quite a lot about history of sisters and brother of my grandmother after WWII, but not so much about sisters and brother of my grat grand father (Ignacy Oborski : 1889 Petryk¨®w- 1940 Ostaszk¨®w/Miednoje?) - Eugeniusz, Roman, Aleknadra, Paulina, Stanis?awa, J¨®zefa- and especially we don't know much about history of the next generations born after the war. ? And the biggest gap- we don't know anything about Franiciszek Oborski (father of my great grandfather Ignacy Oborski). Before he married Maria he was a monk (shortly and he wasn/t ordained a priest)- probably in Tarnopol or close Tarnopol, but I don't know if he had same brother or sisters and how he arrived to Petryk¨®w/Tarnopol (or maybe he was born there). He died in 1910. ? ?I will be grateful for all the advices how?sould I Find same information about Family Oborski in Petryk¨®w before The second World War and even before World War I. ? Marta Wroc?aw/Poland ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] you tube - A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918-1921 and WYMARSZ (1988) about Pilsudski (Marchlewski region - Riga Treaty Line 1921)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBarbara, every house with a person of Polish heritage living in it, ?should have a special corner, a museum, items that are passed from generation to generation, not as antiques but icons to be treasured and remind us of who we are.? I like your fathers logic, he had the same intense passion, ?love of Poland, seeing Pilsudski would have been so special to him, understood her suffering and pain, the hardship that won the quest for a free Poland, no matter how brief going by history and our fate, as all of us have ?and ?it flows through you. Thanks to our peoples spirit, Poland is free again and will stay free, but we must never forget the cruelty, the brutality, the attempted liquidation, extermination of the Polish people and those who perpetrated this crime, especially those of the Kresy, as these loved ones lost are our heroes and I am sure they are guiding us right now. Kind regards, Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison
Sent: Tuesday, 07 May, 2013 5:04 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] you tube - A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918-1921 and WYMARSZ (1988) about Pilsudski (Marchlewski region - Riga Treaty Line 1921) ? ? Lenarda ? Many thanks for this fascinating piece of Polish history.?I admire your passion and you are an inspiration to us all. ? My father and grandmother were great admirers of Pilsudski and belonged to a Pilsudski organisation in the UK, which supported the Pilsudski Institute in London.? As a child living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno,?my dad never forgot the day a train carrying Pilsudski stopped briefly at the station and dad was amongst the crowd?cheering him.??Pilsudski's gaze locked with my dad's for a brief second and dad never forgot that special moment.? Dad always had pictures and busts of Pilsudski in his favourite corner of the house, which my mum called his museum. ? Best regards ? Barbara, London UK? ? Barbara Alison Songwriter Website: Web Page: ? ? From: Lenarda Szymczak <szymczak01@...> ? Dear group ? Old historical footage of Poland and Pilsudski? on You-tube. ¨C sorry to inform that these videos are in the Polish language, but the photos and movies tell their own story. ? fascinating video ?- A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918 ¨C 1921 ? And ?- ??WYMARSZ (1988) - ??Published on Nov 20, 2012 ?- a Polish documentary starting with modern day footage and going into historic film and photos with commentary about LEGIONACH PILSUDSKIEGO. .? ??My grandfather knew Pilsudski and on his recommendation, settled in the Marchlewsk Region, which is now (recently) being used as study material for modern day schools. ? Regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? ? |
Re: Introducing new member Marta Debska from Wroc?aw, Poland
Dear Group, ? I'm a new member, below few words about me and my family: ? my mother is trying to made a family tree, but she founds same gaps in the family history. That's why we are looking for information about family Oborski (from Petryk¨®w, near Tarnopol). We know quite a lot about history of sisters and brother of my grandmother after WWII, but not so much about sisters and brother of my grat grand father (Ignacy Oborski : 1889 Petryk¨®w- 1940 Ostaszk¨®w/Miednoje?) - Eugeniusz, Roman, Aleknadra, Paulina, Stanis?awa, J¨®zefa- and especially we don't know much about history of the next generations born after the war. ? And the biggest gap- we don't know anything about Franiciszek Oborski (father of my great grandfather Ignacy Oborski). Before
he married Maria he was a monk (shortly and he wasn/t ordained a priest)- probably in Tarnopol or close Tarnopol, but I don't know if he had same brother or sisters and how he arrived to Petryk¨®w/Tarnopol (or maybe he was born there). He died in 1910. ? ?I will be grateful for all the advices how?sould I Find same information about Family Oborski in Petryk¨®w before The second World War and even before World War I. ? Marta Wroc?aw/Poland ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] you tube - A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918-1921 and WYMARSZ (1988) about Pilsudski (Marchlewski region - Riga Treaty Line 1921)
Lenarda
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Many thanks for this fascinating piece of Polish history.?I admire your passion and you are an inspiration to us all.
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My father and grandmother were great admirers of Pilsudski and belonged to a Pilsudski organisation in the UK, which supported the Pilsudski Institute in London.? As a child living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno,?my dad never forgot the day a train carrying Pilsudski stopped briefly at the station and dad was amongst the crowd?cheering him.??Pilsudski's gaze locked with my dad's for a brief second and dad never forgot that special moment.? Dad always had pictures and busts of Pilsudski in his favourite corner of the house, which my mum called his museum.
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Best regards
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Barbara, London UK?
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Barbara Alison
Songwriter
Website:
Web Page:
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From: Lenarda Szymczak
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 0:10 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] you tube - A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918-1921 and WYMARSZ (1988) about Pilsudski (Marchlewski region - Riga Treaty Line 1921) ?
Dear group
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Old historical footage of Poland and Pilsudski? on You-tube. ¨C sorry to inform that these videos are in the Polish language, but the photos and movies tell their own story.
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fascinating video ?- A JEDNAK POLSKA 1918 ¨C 1921
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And ?- ??WYMARSZ (1988) - ??Published on Nov 20, 2012 ?- a Polish documentary starting with modern day footage and going into historic film and photos with commentary about LEGIONACH PILSUDSKIEGO.
.? ??My grandfather knew Pilsudski and on his recommendation, settled in the Marchlewsk Region, which is now (recently) being used as study material for modern day schools.
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Regards,
Lenarda, Sydney, Australia
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals
Halina
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Just in case you're not already aware of this, here is a link to a monument?standing in the centre of Tashkent in?tribute to all Poles both soldiers and civilians who died and are buried on Uzbek soil.?
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Regards
Barbara , London UK
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Barbara Alison
Songwriter
Website:
Web Page:
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From: halinamcd
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 5:03 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals ?
Barbara May I ask you about details on the Metryka Zgonu document for your grandfather Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski? - namely the information in the top left hand box on the document and the details of the seal by the signature at the bottom of the page? My grandparents died in the hospital at Czirakczi and were buried in the civilian cemetery, probably in a communal grave. A friend of my father's ¨C Stanislaw Manterys ¨C visited Czirakczi and the cemetery in 1990. His parents are also buried here. Here is a link to the photographs that he took of the cemetery: Kind regards Halina (NZ) --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Barbara Alison wrote: > > Dear Halina > > > I am truly grateful for the links you have sent me.?? I wonder if Jozefa Chocian or your grandparents knew my family, although it is probably unlikely. > > With regard to the Metryka Zgonu for my grandfather, I have inherited it from my late father.?? It was originally??in my grandmother's??possession until she died.?? I can only presume that my grandmother and her 3 sons had already enlisted with the Polish??Army when my grandfather died so his death was recorded.??How my grandmother acquired the photo I have no idea.?? I wish I could??be more helpful.???? > ?? > With very best regards > > Barbara Ryszkowska, London UK > ?? > Barbara Alison > Songwriter > Website: > Web Page: www.songandmedia.com/Barbara-Alison.html > ?? > > > From: halinamcd > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 22:38 > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals > > ?? > Barbara > > You will find details of where your Ryszkowski family was deported to here: > > Edmund Ryszkowski > > > Waclawa Ryszkowska > > > Czeslaw Ryszkowski > > > Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski > > > Wladyslaw Ryszkowski > > > Jozefa Chocian, the mother of Kresy-Siberia group member, Basia Glinski, was deported to the same labour camp as the Ryszkowski family ?€" Stiepanowka. > > May I ask where you obtained the Metryka Zgonu for Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski? > > > My grandparents Jozef and Ewa Lis died in Czirakczi in Feb 1942, leaving my father and aunt orphaned. If not for soldiers from the 18th Regiment 6LDP under the command of Major Jan Lachowicz, who collected orphaned Polish children from the region around Czirakczi and transported them out of the USSR in March 1942, my father and aunt may have languished in a Russian orphanage for the rest of their lives. > > We have no documents for the deaths of Jozef and Ewa and understood that only the deaths of those who enlisted in the Polish Army were recorded. > > Kind regards > > Halina (NZ) > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, "Barbara" wrote: > > > > Dear Group > > > > Hope you can help me. I am trying to find out the name of the place in the Urals where my father and his family were deported by the Russians. My father Wladyslaw Ryszkowski, his two brothers Czeslaw and Edmund, and his parents Mieczyslaw and Waclawa, were living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, where my grandfather was a Forest Ranger (Lesniczy). > > > > They were one of the first families in the area to be arrested by the Russians and were deported in February 1940. As far as I know they ended up working in forests chopping down trees.(Oh, how I wish I listened to the details when my father spoke about his experiences). It would also be interesting to know the route that they travelled along towards their Gehenna. > > > > My grandfather died in March 1942 from Typhoid (Tyfus Plamisty)and is buried in Czerakczi, Uzbekistan. My grandmother and her 3 sons survived, > > joined the Polish Army and travelled to Teheran. > > > > Would be grateful for any information you can give me. > > > > Best regards > > > > Barbara Alison Ryszkowska > > London, UK > > > |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals
Hi Halina
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The photo of this Metryka is very old and a bit blurred, but with enhanced reading glasses and magnifying glass I have managed to decipher the letters.
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Top left hand box reads as follows: Urzad Wikariusza Generalnego dla Polakow w W. Brytanii (Vicar General for Poles), 4 Devonia Road, London N1.
The details on the seal are: Top - Wikariusz Generalny dla Polakow, Bottom - Vicar General for Poles
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Thank you for sending me the link showing Mr Manterys' photos of his family and the Czirakczi cemetery.? I found it very moving reading Mr Manterys' family details and also knowing that somewhere in that cemetery lie my grandfather's remains.?
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My grandfather also died in?a hospital (maybe the same one as your grandparents) and his naked body was thrown outside to be later buried in a mass grave.? However, my father had just recovered from typhoid himself and persuaded a Ukrainian (who?was deported as a Polish citizen) to help him bury his father.? He offered the Ukrainian his ration of food?as?payment.? They managed to find some old discarded material, wrapped my grandfather's body and carried it some distance from the hospital, dug a grave and buried him.? My father had made a small wooden cross which he placed on the grave.? This was all done in secret at night because private burials were forbidden by the Russians.? My father was always very upset when he spoke about this burial as it was a rough terrain in those days, and he was therefore certain that there is no trace of this grave
anymore.? You can imagine how elated I felt when, after my father died, I discovered that Czirakczi cemetery?exists and, even though?it might be difficult to find the actual grave, the area of my grandfather's resting place is marked and can be visited.? Maybe one day I'll be able to go there.
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Please let me know if I can be of any further help.
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Best wishes
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Barbara - London UK?
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Barbara Alison
Songwriter
Website:
Web Page:
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From: halinamcd
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 5:03 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals ?
Barbara May I ask you about details on the Metryka Zgonu document for your grandfather Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski? - namely the information in the top left hand box on the document and the details of the seal by the signature at the bottom of the page? My grandparents died in the hospital at Czirakczi and were buried in the civilian cemetery, probably in a communal grave. A friend of my father's ¨C Stanislaw Manterys ¨C visited Czirakczi and the cemetery in 1990. His parents are also buried here. Here is a link to the photographs that he took of the cemetery: Kind regards Halina (NZ) --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, Barbara Alison wrote: > > Dear Halina > > > I am truly grateful for the links you have sent me.?? I wonder if Jozefa Chocian or your grandparents knew my family, although it is probably unlikely. > > With regard to the Metryka Zgonu for my grandfather, I have inherited it from my late father.?? It was originally??in my grandmother's??possession until she died.?? I can only presume that my grandmother and her 3 sons had already enlisted with the Polish??Army when my grandfather died so his death was recorded.??How my grandmother acquired the photo I have no idea.?? I wish I could??be more helpful.???? > ?? > With very best regards > > Barbara Ryszkowska, London UK > ?? > Barbara Alison > Songwriter > Website: > Web Page: www.songandmedia.com/Barbara-Alison.html > ?? > > > From: halinamcd <redcube@...> > To: mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2013, 22:38 > Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals > > ?? > Barbara > > You will find details of where your Ryszkowski family was deported to here: > > Edmund Ryszkowski > > > Waclawa Ryszkowska > > > Czeslaw Ryszkowski > > > Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski > > > Wladyslaw Ryszkowski > > > Jozefa Chocian, the mother of Kresy-Siberia group member, Basia Glinski, was deported to the same labour camp as the Ryszkowski family ?€" Stiepanowka. > > May I ask where you obtained the Metryka Zgonu for Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski? > > > My grandparents Jozef and Ewa Lis died in Czirakczi in Feb 1942, leaving my father and aunt orphaned. If not for soldiers from the 18th Regiment 6LDP under the command of Major Jan Lachowicz, who collected orphaned Polish children from the region around Czirakczi and transported them out of the USSR in March 1942, my father and aunt may have languished in a Russian orphanage for the rest of their lives. > > We have no documents for the deaths of Jozef and Ewa and understood that only the deaths of those who enlisted in the Polish Army were recorded. > > Kind regards > > Halina (NZ) > > --- In mailto:Kresy-Siberia%40yahoogroups.com, "Barbara" wrote: > > > > Dear Group > > > > Hope you can help me. I am trying to find out the name of the place in the Urals where my father and his family were deported by the Russians. My father Wladyslaw Ryszkowski, his two brothers Czeslaw and Edmund, and his parents Mieczyslaw and Waclawa, were living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, where my grandfather was a Forest Ranger (Lesniczy). > > > > They were one of the first families in the area to be arrested by the Russians and were deported in February 1940. As far as I know they ended up working in forests chopping down trees.(Oh, how I wish I listened to the details when my father spoke about his experiences). It would also be interesting to know the route that they travelled along towards their Gehenna. > > > > My grandfather died in March 1942 from Typhoid (Tyfus Plamisty)and is buried in Czerakczi, Uzbekistan. My grandmother and her 3 sons survived, > > joined the Polish Army and travelled to Teheran. > > > > Would be grateful for any information you can give me. > > > > Best regards > > > > Barbara Alison Ryszkowska > > London, UK > > > |
Marchlewsczyzna Wolyn - Dzierzowszczyzna Belarus (Riga Treaty Line 1921)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFirst wave of repression and liquidation of Kresy people
Lost in the woods - Mosaic Berdytchov (Marchlewszczyzna - other side Riga Treaty Line 1921) Modern day article using research in hind sight about the little known Marchlewszczyzna Experiment in Wolyn, which was run concurrently with the same Dzier?owszczyzna Experiment in Belarus. ? ? English version - ? Polish version - ? Regards, Lenarda, Australia |
Re: Deportations from Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, to the Urals
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May I ask you about details on the Metryka Zgonu document for your grandfather Mieczyslaw Ryszkowski? - namely the information in the top left hand box on the document and the details of the seal by the signature at the bottom of the page? My grandparents died in the hospital at Czirakczi and were buried in the civilian cemetery, probably in a communal grave. A friend of my father's ¨C Stanislaw Manterys ¨C visited Czirakczi and the cemetery in 1990. His parents are also buried here. Here is a link to the photographs that he took of the cemetery: Kind regards Halina (NZ) --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Barbara Alison <barb_001@...> wrote:
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewszczyzna - you tube - Kresy back then
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAndrew, I found this history back in 2008, but because there was little or no material back then, it was very difficult for people to believe my mother¡¯s story as not many people escaped from this region and the fear of soviets was overwhelming, so those who did escape never spoke.? I harassed my mother into telling me her story and this started my research and she tried to prevent me, but something inside told me I must do this, I must find who I am and where I come from. Also as with all older people, we have to sift through what is fantasy and what is reality.?? This can only be done if you have proof to back it up and so far, my mother¡¯s stories of her childhood, which sounded like some man from mars story, is all slowly being verified each day, each year when more material is uploaded into the great Cyber reference book.? ? Did you know that this type of material is banned in the Ukraine and it is on the forbidden list as material detrimental to the state?? Therefore the people in Ukraine, including my aunts and their families, do not know the real history, only parts of their own life that they have retained in memory, if any, as they were all very young, under the age of 11 back then and easily retrained. ? In my last conversation with family in Ukraine, they have restored and built new churches, which have Mass in Catholic and Orthodox, Polish and Ukrainian and Russian and all can go to any of these churches, with mass even said in the English Language and the Polish Government has given a subsidy on top of local collections to build Polish Schools and teach the children of people, who are of Polish heritage and are allowed to be so, in today¡¯s more open climate of society. Regards Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Andrew Stephen
Sent: Monday, 06 May, 2013 11:06 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then ? ? Thanks Lenarda,? ? This is a particularly hellish sliver of history, and so heavily obfuscated. ? Hopefully there will be some more scholarship and material added to this over time. ? Andrew Sydney, Australia.? ? To: Kresy-Siberia@... ? Dear group, with the words of never give up and keep looking, as information is always added, ?the following was discovered as recent upload to internet 2012.? This is where my mother Helena Chmielewska village of Niwna was and this is part of her story, verifying what I was told? and what I had read. Dec 12, 2012 - Uploaded by hibiscusltd Polski Rejon Narodowy im. Juliana Marchlewskiego, tzw. potocznie Marchlewszczyzna lub Polrajon ... ? unfortunately there is no translation from the Polish language, but a picture is worth a thousand words. ? Regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? ? ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Lenarda,? This is a particularly hellish sliver of history, and so heavily obfuscated. Hopefully there will be some more scholarship and material added to this over time. Andrew Sydney, Australia.? To: Kresy-Siberia@... From: szymczak01@... Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 09:13:53 +1000 Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then ? Dear group, with the words of never give up and keep looking, as information is always added, ?the following was discovered as recent upload to internet 2012.? This is where my mother Helena Chmielewska village of Niwna was and this is part of her story, verifying what I was told? and what I had read. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hleQEXpCWQ8 Dec 12, 2012 - Uploaded by hibiscusltd Polski Rejon Narodowy im. Juliana Marchlewskiego, tzw. potocznie Marchlewszczyzna lub Polrajon ... ? unfortunately there is no translation from the Polish language, but a picture is worth a thousand words. ? Regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSorry for the overload of same link, in my excitement of finding information I wanted to make sure something connected and showed the video. Regards Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak
Sent: Monday, 06 May, 2013 9:14 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then ? ? Dear group, with the words of never give up and keep looking, as information is always added, ?the following was discovered as recent upload to internet 2012.? This is where my mother Helena Chmielewska village of Niwna was and this is part of her story, verifying what I was told? and what I had read. Dec 12, 2012 - Uploaded by hibiscusltd Polski Rejon Narodowy im. Juliana Marchlewskiego, tzw. potocznie Marchlewszczyzna lub Polrajon ... ? unfortunately there is no translation from the Polish language, but a picture is worth a thousand words. ? Regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? ? ? |
behind Riga Treaty Line 1921 Marchlewsczyczna - you tube - Kresy back then
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDear group, with the words of never give up and keep looking, as information is always added, ?the following was discovered as recent upload to internet 2012.? This is where my mother Helena Chmielewska village of Niwna was and this is part of her story, verifying what I was told? and what I had read. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hleQEXpCWQ8 Dec 12, 2012 - Uploaded by hibiscusltd Polski Rejon Narodowy im. Juliana Marchlewskiego, tzw. potocznie Marchlewszczyzna lub Polrajon ... ? unfortunately there is no translation from the Polish language, but a picture is worth a thousand words. ? Regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? ? ? |