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If you are new (or newish) to Groups.io as an owner, you should check out the help for new group owners. It is part of the Help center. This document acts as a quick reference to the more detailed Owners Manual, Members Manual and Glossary. And it is arranged in steps that walks you through the setup procedures. Don't miss any important setup features! /helpcenter/manual/ownersgettingstarted Also please be sure to check out the features which are dependent on when you set up your group. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/25069 You can quickly check your group features by going to Admin, Upgrade. Legacy Enabled indicates a feature that is not available to new free groups, but is available to your group. Frances -- Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

This GroupManagersForum is founded in the tradition of the GroupManagersForum ( https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/GroupManagersForum/conversations/messages/2 ) on Yahoo! Groups. Attachments are allowed and the judicious use of screen shots and other illustrations is encouraged. To prevent malicious attachments, avoid spam, off-topic messages, and certain kinds of spoofing, ALL messages sent to GMF are moderated. Despite these measures, be aware that the bad guys are clever so there's no guarantee that we'll always succeed; you are encouraged to be vigilant against any and all threats arriving via email. Your GMF moderators make no guarantees regarding the safety of emails arriving from this or any other Groups.io address. Don't post JUST to advertise your groups. Listing your group in your signature is perfectly acceptable, just make sure there's content in your post. Do post something about being a Groups.io group owner, moderator or member. What suggestions do you have for improving Groups.io? What works for growing your group? When is it a good idea to create an unlisted group? How do you manage the role of owner on multiple groups? How do you manage playing owner on one group and member on others? There is power in numbers. Ask "How to" questions: "How do you do...[function of your choice]?" We all have to learn somewhere Through the contributions of its members this group can become a powerful voice for education, quality, change and improvement in Groups.io -- provided we work and focus on that as our collective goal. -- Shal *HELP:* GMF Wiki - /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home Official Help - /helpcenter Search GMF messages - /g/GroupManagersForum/topics Search by hashtag - click on the number of posts - /g/GroupManagersForum/hashtags

I have a filter set in my email so that all messages with?" [GMF] " in the subject line go into a folder for the Yahoo GMF forum. ? But, since this groups.io GroupManagersForum group uses the same" [GMF] " in the subject line of its emails, all of these messages also go into my Yahoo GMF folder. ?I can't think of any other filter that I could use so that all of the groups.io GroupManagersForum group messages will go into their own separate folder. Would it be possible to change the [GMF] for this group to something like ?[GMF2] or ?[GMF-G] or whatever so I could filter all of this groups messages into its own folder apart from the Yahoo GMF folder? Thanks.

Hi. Is there any technical way to unban my self. Tried contact the / mod of the groups. But they say I am banned, and heard through a third party. They have not contacted me at all. So, is there a way to unban my self. Without the owner, and will never get unbanned by them. Any tips, tricks, or tech work arounds.owner

In the beta group Frances wrote: Rather than ask Mark to open up Beta's wiki, which he may have reasons not to do, I realized I've got a couple other options. One of them is to clone my YahooGroupedia wiki for use with Groups.io. So that I've done: http://groupsiopedia.pbworks.com/ The other is to start using GMF's wiki, which I've also done: /org/groupsio/GroupManagersForum/wiki I'm more familiar with editing PBworks, and I think it is more feature-rich (e.g. an automatically generated Table of Contents for a lengthy page), so that was my first inclination. But there's no denying the simplicity of having the Wiki access control be implicit in group membership. One difference is that PBworks' wiki is visible to the public, where GMF's is not, and cannot be made so (there's no selection for "Public"). This has its plusses and minuses. For example, a tutorial on how to sign in to a Groups.io group would only be useful in a public wiki. There may be subjects that shouldn't be in a public wiki, but given that GMF has open membership, they probably shouldn't be here either. So at the moment the only advantage to GMF's wiki seems to be the convenience for GMF members (they don't have to obtain a PBworks account to edit the wiki, nor keep a bookmark or something to remember where it is). Probably the most significant advantage of using GMF's wiki is "dogfooding" - that is, the more we use the native resource the better we'll understand it and how to use it in our own groups, and the better we will be able to report bugs and suggest improvements. So my inclination is to eventually remove the Best Practices topic from Groupsiopedia, and reserve that wiki for topics that are more useful if they're in a public wiki. I'll try and remember to provide cross-links between the two when I do that. Opinions? -- Shal

Hi. Yes, looking for a way to resolve disputes with the moderators and the owners. Not communicating wit me. So yes, looking for a independent umpire to manage disputes.

Hi. There should be a feature where members, moderators and owners of groups,can resolve disputes. And also a place where is an independent umpire for abuse complaints. Thanks

Hi. Just out of curiosity a friend, asked me the other day, how does some one remove their account from groups.io. Is there an easy process. Looked on the site, and I do not know the answer. So, if say for example, a friend, signed up to groups,io, then for one reason or another, did want to remove their account. What's the steps they would have to do this. Can this person do this as an individual. Thanks.

Do the [Generic Guidelines](/org/groupsio/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Generic-Guidelines) go too far? Not go far enough? This is a thread to discuss ways to improve the Generic Guidelines, one of the example Codes of Conduct in GMF's wiki. Or, feel free to provide your own example with its own discussion thread. -- Shal

I think we each have updates that we'd like to see implemented on this site. I'm not sure how Mark is setting priority for the suggestions he's received. I'd guess a cross between urgency and ease of implementation. I do check the Trello board regularly to see what's in the hopper. My current highest rated item would be a database function. What's yours? There are definitely areas where I'd like to see tweaks, such as file size shown for Photos. I'm very glad to see that he's not throwing a bunch of stuff out all at once. He makes a change, then tries to make sure that the bugs a squished before moving on to another item. Duane

Hi. If I create a group, and maybe can recommend other mods. To help me out. As did have some yahoo groups a few years ago, one, I was the only owner, and was overwhelmed. Then got shut down, could not keep up. So my question is: Can you recommend any good, reliable people, who I could trust to be co-moderators, or co-owners. And if I get owner or admin rights, does it just only apply to that group, or the entire groups.io site. And what's happens, if some one decides to create a group, and accidentally picks a group, which has a current name. What happens? Does it give you an error, saying you cannot use that group name? Just curious. So. Any ideas or suggestions.

Shal, You mentioned in a post on Beta that it should be possible to import the downloaded archives into Thunderbird. I haven't checked into it much yet, but thought maybe you could offer a little insight to keep me from reinventing the wheel if you've done it. Local folder? Each group separate? Add-ons needed? Other tips? Thanks, Duane

Hi. Want to set up a couple of groups. So how do I go about it. And also need some trusted people, as co-owners, co-moderators. Any one want to help me out. Also what are the e-mail commands for setting up, like subscriptions, banning, unbanning. Any ideas. Thanks. Marvin.

Hi Shai, Nice to see you over on this end.:-) I'm on the verge of transferring my yahoo group over here. I've already created the group and I've discovered the email to [email protected], etc. I have a couple of questions: 1. After an automatic transfer, does the old yahoo group stay in existence, with all its members? Or does it disappear, or does anything happen to it? I'd like to maintain the old group until everything is sorted out. 2. ?Does groups.io have a search function for searching through posts? 3. It seems like the automatic transfer automatically creates an account for everyone, but requires them to create a password "the first time they sign in." What if they don't sign in? My group has many members who access the group exclusively through email. My understanding is that they will automatically start receiving, and be able to send, email to the new (automatically transferred) groups.io group without having to sign in. Is that correct? Thanks! Olivia_J

Hi. Was just wondering. What happens if a member, say hypothetical member a has a beef with the admins, or owners, or the owners or the admins have a beef, and ban him. The member a tries to communicate to the owner / admin / moderator. Is it possible to take over the group or transfer ownership without the owner's notice or permission? Any ideas. Marvin.

Hello, I am in the process of setting up to move my sewing machine group from Yahoo to IO.? I see that when I am ready to make the make the switch IO will move my members and messages.? Now is there an easy way to move to all the files from and photos from Yahoo to IO?? I am still trying to get handle on how to do a database in IO using WIKI as well.? So any pointer or help there will be greatly appreciated also. Thanks, Dean

Hi Shal and all - I figured I should join this group on 'the other side' as you referred to it. I'd like to see how the experiments go here. I'm not having much luck getting members to test the groups I've set up so far. I'm a little concerned with the news coming out about Yahoo's future. I have a couple groups over there with extensive archives, and I think IO is in pretty good shape for what we really need. It would be nice to have the links, but if we can bring over the message archives through the transfer process, that would be the most critical. One think I hadn't thought of previously is the space available for messages. One group goes back to the days of onelist back in 1998. I'd hate to lose some of the archives because we exceeded storage space immediately. I can't find the space the message archives currently take up om Yahoo, but we've just passed 8500 messages. That's enough noise for for now. Thanks! Dano

I have a question about hashtags that was not addressed in the groups.io FAQ. Is it possible to make it so that only moderators can populate the names of the available hashtags, i.e. users/members can only use a hashtag that has already been made available by the moderators or they have to ask a moderator to make a new hashtag? I would like to limit the number of hashtags to a manageable and easily identifiable group of available hashtags. ?One of my concerns is that if users can make up their own hashtags there will be literally hundreds of misspelled, unintelligible, or just plain useless hashtags cluttering up an otherwise very valuable tool; ?at some point having an overabundance of hashtags will make hashtags more of an annoyance than the useful tool that it promises to be. Mark Bielecki

Hi Shal, Do you insert the "[excess quote trimmed by moderator]" manually? I noticed that you use the Preformatted markup tag. I really like your method. I also clean up messages before approving/publishing. Those who trim their quotes get unmoderated. Everyone else goes to the moderation queue. -- Jim Poston@... << 'Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?' >>

In beta@ Vickie wrote: /g/beta/message/4852 Are these two groups on basically the same topic? If so, and if the giving group members are all also members of the chat group (or if that could be made a requirement) then perhaps the giving group could be a subgroup of the chat group. Then you haven't added a new members list, just changed the way they're organized. ;-) -- Shal /g/GroupManagersForum

Yahoo groups has been completely down for the past hour or so, with this message, one I've never seen before. I was just about to move my group over. Wondering if I waited a day too long and it's finally bitten the dust. In any case, I feel moving is now urgent, if it's even still possible: Could Not Connect Description: Could not connect to the requested server host.

Okay Shal, I copied over parts of the post from Beta to here, so we can continue the discussion on Moderation and how it works both in Yahoo and in groups.io. Owl wrote:>>Hmmm. Help me understand this? In MM, everyone who joined was allowed in without approval, but stayed on moderation until cleared to post. Default for the group, I thought, was moderated?<< Shal wrote:>>The group control for message moderation in Yahoo Groups is slightly different from that in Groups.io, so bear with me.Your MM Yahoo Group is set to "Messages from new members require approval." In a Groups.io group this would be the equivalent of leaving the "Moderated" checkbox unchecked, and checking the "New Users Moderated" box.<< Okay, John and I checked out MM's actual settings, and here is how it is set up. It is set up as New Users are Moderated. Problem is, there's nothing ever to indicate that they are ever UNMODERATED by the system. Therefore to me, that seems like New Users Are Moderated = Moderated group. Because that is the default, and the default doesn't decide to unmoderate anyone, only I do. I found one entry that was put on default in the entire list, (might check again), and I'm pretty sure I didn't do that, because I always unmoderated the user once they posted a legit post...with the exceptions of those that I kept on permanent moderation. So please help me understand how the default in there could still be unmoderated, when nothing unmoderated them but me??? Shal wrote:>>So no, the default in MM is that members' posts are generally not moderated. However, when a member joins their Posting Privilege is set to "Override - posts are moderated". Thus new members are moderated until you change that setting.<< That's the other weird thing. Even when I changed the setting it was still override. It then said Override - Posts aren't moderated. Again though, default wouldn't have made them unmoderated, because default didn't know how to define a new user or not. Wouldn't default have to have been unmoderated to start with to do that? Owls are SO confused! Shal wrote:>>You might have cleared them to post either be selecting "Default Group Policy" (which I recommend) or by selecting "Override - posts are not moderated" (which I generally recommend against).<< But that was the only way I knew to do it, because default policy said new members are moderated, and didn't show me a way to make it aware when someone was no longer new. And no one ever told me differently, about how it worked. Shal wrote:>>In your Yahoo Group, if you clear members to post by changing their Posting Privilege to "Default Group Policy" then they are unmoderated so long as the group's setting is either "Unmoderated" or "Moderated for new members" (which implicitly means unmoderated for "cleared" members).<< Once again though, how would the group know they were no longer new, or cleared? Shal wrote:>>This very confusion is one reason why I dislike Yahoo Groups' use of a single three-way radio button control for both the group's default policy and the initial setting of new members. In Groups.io those are separate checkboxes, which I feel is much clearer.<< Owl wrote:>>Sorry, but that REALLY confused me...if you'd rather answer me in MMSanctuary, feel free...<< Shal wrote:>>I thought about it, but confusion on this point is not uncommon among Yahoo Groups moderators (at least judging by the questions I've fielded in the moderator help groups). So I figured that since many of beta@'s members are migrating from Yahoo Groups, it might be worthwhile to highlight how Groups.io's controls are clearer for this purpose than Yahoo Groups'.<< Okay, that makes sense. Shal wrote:>>And also to highlight why one should always prefer "Default Group Policy" over the unmoderated override: it allows you to temporarily switch the group's policy to moderated to squelch a flame war. If some members are instead set to the unmoderated override then you have to squelch each of those members individually - a much more arduous task in a large active group. If you want to discuss this further, perhaps we should take it over to the groups.io GMF.<< Done. I'm here. Help me understand it, because I simply don't. Sorry. :( Brenda

In my new group here, I see that archives are "visible to anyone." I would like archives to be visible to subscribers only, as I see is the case in at least one other group I belong to. But I can't find the variable in "settings" for this. Where would I find this? Is this perhaps a feature that's available only to upgraded groups? Thanks for any info! Olivia_J

Hey everyone, A member whom I transferred from a Yahoo Group to an io.group using Mark's transfer method, had this problem: *** 12/31/15 Hi Brenda, Just to let you know that I struggled to join Groups.io at first. Being Subscribed by you registered my email address with Groups.io, which locked me out of registering it myself. And I couldn’t Log In because I didn’t know my own password: remember Yahoo uses two-stage validation. If anyone else asks, the trick is to try to Log In, then click the Lost Password button and ‘reset’ it from the resulting email. David *** Any suggestions to make for other people who might transfer and run into the same problems? Brenda Nightowl >8#

I've copied most of my group's important files over to Groups.io, and am about to embark on the arduous process of getting the links duplicated over here as well. (I actually like the fact that Groups.io doesn't have a separate place for "links," since content will not be randomly distributed among "files" and "links" as it is in yahoo.) What I'm tentatively planning to do is to create file folders with appropriate names. Within each folder, I would include the files themseives plus a separate file called "links" with all the links to content of the same description. Example: In the "diagnosis" folder I would have a bunch of actual files on diagnosis, plus one called "diagnosis links" which would just be a file listing all the links. Any thoughts on this, or other ideas? What are people planning to do? J

Hi On our travel group, I maintain a links library. I re-created it in Groups.io <http://groups.io/> as a wiki - each main topic is a wiki page. Very easy to do. Home page - table of contents. Sample page: Frances

Okay, I received an invitation to Shalstest. I was able to join that group with no problems. Then I received mail from Shalstest, including calendar reminders. Since I have enough mail coming in already from groups.io, and elsewhere, I decided to attempt to mute them by using "Mute Threads Tagged With #cal-reminder" link in the e-mail. I copied the link and went to the group, NOT SIGNED IN, to see what would happen. Here is what transpired: 1. It It asked me for my user name and password 2. I typed them in the boxes provided 3. Then I clicked mute 4. No confirmation was given, instead it threw me back to the groups.io home page and I was not logged in. 5. Checking to be sure, I logged in, but I couldn't figure out how to list my muted hashtags to see if it worked. So I don't know if it did. What did I do wrong, or is this an issue? Thanks, Brenda

Hi Group, I was trying to upload some files in the 3rd group I have now that is moving from Yahoo.? However I finding I cannot upload I get "sending request to IO" and it just sits and sits!? In 30 minutes I moved only 4 files and the 5th would never upload. Dean

I sent a request to IO for the easy transfer of member, email settings, and messages to be done on this Monday.? I wanted to contact support with a question,? Since I read all my emails in hotmail itself.? If I click on the [email protected]. I get there is no email program set up on my computer,? If I try to paste it into hotmail will not send it saying it is not valid email address,? So what do I need to email IO as com did not work when added after the O, Also does a subgroup have its' own 1 gig of storage or is it based on the parent group 1 gig of storage. Thanks, Dean

Hi, Sorry to post again so soon.? However I keep telling hotmail that things I post to IO are not junk, however for over month now all my post to the groups I have on IO I find in my Junk Box.? Is there something else I should do as telling Hotmail they are not junk is not working.? Since my group that formally opens Tue has been announced I have new members, joining already, which is great.? However some are asking questions and when I post the reply even one is coming back into as I have said my Junk Box.? Help Please? Thanks, Dean

Hi Group, I move my group over the weekend with IO moving the members, email settings, and messages yesterday Mon!? IO had everything done around Noon EST.? However in my group are a lot of older computer challenged people.? Some have had issues getting into the new site that were moved by IO.? Now twice tonight I tired to post a Special Notice where I tired to cut and past a step by step way to get them I hoped into the group.? Now doing the copy and paste while not hard was time consuming as I had to? go to each page and some parts would not copy so i have manually make and insert insert those.? Once all done I have hit Send at the bottom of the posting box.? Sadly and I waited a couple hours in between in case there a slight delay from IO to redo the it a second time.? However neither post showed up in the group or my mail box where I used another email addy to see what members would see. ? So any idea where my Special Notices would have vanished to?? I really hate to do this all again only to have it vanish, and not help my members!? Thanks, Dean

A member of my group experienced problems right out of the chute. I posted some PDF files in our files area. then sent the direct link to the group. This user has a Mac computer, if that makes any difference. I figured his problem might have something to do with security settings, but I'm a Windows person, not a Mac, so I can't even tell him where to look. Anyone know the answer? Hi Anita, when I try to download the applications i?get this. ?(Adobe Reader blocked this site.) Thank you for any help with this. Anita C.

Hi Group, I have member who is having issues logging in, she says she is on the home page of the group sees the photo I have set for home page photo.? Says she is seeing her name but there are no tab on the side of page.? In trying to help her in another browser I went to my regular member profile and signed out.? When I went to sign in I asked that it send me link to log in and I got this email Hello, Here is a link to log into your Groups.io account: /loginlink/8469666208057095410 It will expire on 01/23/2016 at 10:50pm EST. If you did not ask for a login link to be sent to you, please ignore this email. Cheers, The Groups.io Team I clicked the linkwhich is good until 10:50 and I got this ?Find or Create a Group?Log In?Sign Up ×That link has expired. Send Link To Login It is not 10:50 so I did it again and I am in an endless loop of IO sending me links, I click to log on and getting it had expired. Dean

Hi Forum, I have some members asking me questions, and I do not have the answer so I coming to you for help.? On my group some see that post have via Groups.io attached to their emails.? Why is this only on some emails and not all.? I know one member post twice, once post from with in the group itself, and one wasa? reply sent through her email account she where she replied.? Yet both has the via Groups.io Another member who post should show hername@... are coming as hername-aol.com@... Thanks, Dean

Shal Is there an option to turn off on the ?group front ?page Top Poster and also ?hashtag? Vickie

I know it seems strange to ask but I wondered if it was possible to have the messages and files (and links if there is that feature - can't see it) and not the member list, at least not initially. Robert

J, I moved this to GMF to give Mark a break.[1] In @beta J_catlady wrote: /g/beta/message/5755 Features: o Each item in the Topics list is a link to the start of that topic in the body. o Each message has a link back to the Topics list. o The links at the bottom of each message are compact and easy to read. In the plain text digest those links take more space and look cluttered because the URLs are shown. o All links are "live". With the plain text digest if your email service or software doesn't "linkify" plain text URLs then you will need to copy/paste them to your browser. o Some users prefer the formatted appearance of the HTML digest. o Emoticons in the message bodies are shown as graphics. Cons: o The message is encoded in HTML. Some email clients don't handle HTML well, or at all. Some users prefer plain text. o Each digest takes more bytes to transmit. Costs more if using metered or otherwise limited internet service. Requires more storage if you archive the messages for future reference. o Font size and color choices in the individual messages are shown. This can disrupt the appearance and/or readability of the digest. o Emoticons in the message bodies are shown as graphics. Some people despise this. Anything I missed, folks? -- Shal 1: /g/beta/message/4759 (last bullet item)

In beta@ Jim Poston wrote: /g/beta/message/5784 I've decided to expand upon this topic here, as it is more of a "how to". If we come up with bug reports or feature requests those should be posted back in the thread at beta@ so Mark will see them. One thing I noticed when moving some databases from a Y!group to its reincarnation as group@ is that the Exported CSV (probably TSV too) from the Y!Group includes a header row containing the column names. Here I'm using the trailing @ to signify a group on Groups.io, my apologies in advance to anyone who had the temerity to name their group "group". When importing to the group@ that column heading row is matched up to the column names in the group@ table - so you need to have columns that match the names of those in the Y!group. Columns in the CSV that don't match any columns in the group@ table are discarded during import. I found it useful to open the CSV in a text editor to copy/paste the column names into the Edit Table form at group@ so that I'd get them to match exactly. The column type in a group@ table seems to control how both the add row and the import functions treat the content for that column. But my only test so far was a column of type "Date" - which imported as gibberish when fed a CSV containing dates in the YYYY-MM-DD format. On the other hand, importing that column as "Single Line Text", and then changing the type to "Date" after completing the import did not turn them to gibberish. But I don't think it turned them to an internal Date representation either: I think the table just shows the text that it imported despite the subsequent change of field type. -- Shal

From: Ro People are not resisting the idea of an OPTION -- people are ensuring that the folks who make decisions realize that it (whatever IT is) needs to BE an option - not merely a change - and (especially in the case of your earlier suggestion) that it needs to be a stand-alone option, not tied to some 'similar' setting. Many of us have learned the simple truth that software designers look for the easiest way to implement ANYTHING - which generally means changing existing functions rather than adding more options. And that when faced with a small minority clamoring for some specific change, those same software designers will often implement the change with zero regard for the SILENT majority who were perfectly happy the way things were. Unfortunately it is almost always impossible to roll back a bad change, because the decision to roll back a bad change requires management to admit that they made a bad decision. Many of us are here because of the repetitive cycle of BAD CHANGES at Yahoo.

I just added a page to the Wiki for "Setting up a Database". I think I covered most of it, but please make changes if appropriate. I'm thinking that we could do a lot of the documentation for Mark on how things work. I know that things are changing, some quite often, and that can make it difficult for less computer comfortable folks to keep up. As far as I'm concerned, Mark is more than welcome to use any of the information that I post if it will help others. If/when Shal feels that a page is pretty much set, he can lock it so that "Only moderators can edit this page" if he chooses so that there's less chance of it being messed up. Duane

How do I turn off members ability to edit a previous post?? have looked around, cant find it. Ro

Shal, When I posted in here, both times it took me to the page that said Thank you, your post will be available when approved by the moderators, (or similar wording,), but then instead of taking me back to the message list (last message), it left me with another blank posting box. I thought Mark fixed this? Brenda

Per Duane's & Vickie's posts in Beta: For info on this topic, see post #s #5878 (near the bottom), #5886, #5890, and #5891 &#5892 which is bringing the topic to over here in GMFio. In here, the topic was discussed in post #'s #209, #254 (I found my missing post) & #255. Maybe those could be merged into this thread, or if not, maybe the thread could be hashtagged to match the one I made here. Anyway, let's use this thread for discussing creating the #HowToGuide, if everyone's okay with that. :) Brenda

...... and not very IT savvy, I need some help please I run a group for my rural village, we have been using yahoo groups but it has limitations; furthermore, a lot of members are not sophisticated IT users, they will read an emailed daily digest but may not want to navigate the groups home page We use the group more for "announcements" than for "conversations" so a daily digest works for most members. However it is unlikely that they will make much use of the home page, I would like them to see the following in the daily digest and wonder if it can be done? Yahoo allows me to put a footer on the daily digest, I use it for forthcoming events and edit it from time to time. I can see a calendar function here but no "footer". Is there a way of putting a footer into the daily digest? Similarly, I would like to add a village business directory in the daily digest, or at the very least a one click link to the database Similarly I would like photos and other file attachments to be visible in the daily digest, or a one click link Is any of this possible? Thank you Jeremy Freedman

1. How do I ?(as a moderator) assign a hashtag to a thread in my group's message archive? 2. How do I (as a user) get a listing of all messages with a particular hashtag assigned? Green

In beta@ message 6229: Brenda wrote: /g/beta/message/6229 IP addresses have two shortcomings: the same person may use multiple IP addresses, and multiple people may use the same IP address.[1] The first can come about from the person connecting using different computers (home, work, library), or with a mobile device using different WiFi locations (Starbucks, grocery store, library, home, work). It is also possible, in most cases, for a person with a home internet connection to break that connection and be assigned a different IP address. That used to be very common with dial-up connections, but now connections (and their IP address) tend to last longer (weeks, months) and ISPs often try to give you the same one back after a disconnection, rather than drawing a fresh number from the pool. The second can come about when multiple users are behind the same router/NAT. This can be as small as a home network, or larger such a dormitory, an office, a campus, or in some parts of the world even a whole city. So using an IP address for identification isn't foolproof. But, as long as you're aware of the limitations, it isn't necessarily worthless either if you can combine it with other forms of evidence. Shal 1: At least, for the IPv4 addresses that have been most used to date (usually written as a string of four small numbers combined with decimal points). In the future, as IPv6 gains usage it isn't clear to me what will happen. Instead of somewhat less than 4 billion unique addresses, the new system has something on the order of 16 quintillion (billion billion) unique addresses (speaking in U.S. terminology, where billion = 1,000,000,000). In IPv6 every computing device could be given a permanent unique address and we wouldn't even come close to running out.

In Y!GMF message 58371 Dean wrote: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/GroupManagersForum/conversations/messages/58371 (public archive, no membership needed) Do you happen to know if they're asking because they were too timid to just try it? Or did they run into some kind of snag? I made a Wiki page on the subject, but I haven't actually transferred a group myself. So the advice there is gleaned from what I've read. If you have more advice, or detailed descriptions, or screen shots along the way, perhaps we can collaborate on improving the page. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups Shal

RichardTE wrote (6525 in beta@): /g/beta/message/6525 Interesting observation. And I think that provides the answer. I created a subgroup, /g/shalstest+camelCaseSubGroup and put you in it to receive the digest. Then posted a messsage. I'm predicting that the intercapitals will be preserved, but initial caps will be imposed in the digest Subject, as in: Shalstest+CamelCaseSubGroup Digest #1 That's based on the appearance of the breadcrumb line in the subgroup (viewing the Messages Thread View): Shalstest+CamelCaseSubGroup > Threads Shal /g/GroupManagersForum

Just looking through old posts and I had a question or two about threads ? It looks like threads don't automatically close. ?This must mean someone can add to an old thread a year or two later. ?Correct? If I don't want that, I must manually close them. ?Right? Perhaps a dumb question but I assume that subject lines from closed threads can be reused later. For example, if the subject is Malta, can someone else later start a new thread with the subject Malta?? Frances

Hi all, I would like to get rid of the underscores in the title and email address of my main group (the title and email address are currently the same, and I'd like to keep it that way). I remember that in Y!G, even changing a couple of letters from lower to uppercase caused some upheaval in members' abilities to receive and send emails. What are the ramifications of changing a group title and/or email address here? Removing the underscores is not a huge deal, but I'd prefer to get rid of them. Thanks. J