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Re: Notice For a Message Needing Approval (i.e.: New Users Moderated)

 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:36 AM, Duane wrote:
but I include this in our Welcome notice for new members:
I came back to make the same point but Duane beat me to it!

Regrettably he had a point when he said It won't help for those people that don't read the messages but it is a perfectly viable solution to the problem you wish to resolve, and avoids landing Mark with additional work which IMHO should not be necessary anyway.

Chris

Chris


Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

but simply adding you to a group wouldn't ordinarily be a violation
Interesting. In my country adding someone to the group (mail list) without his consent or his request is against the law.


Re: Notice For a Message Needing Approval (i.e.: New Users Moderated)

 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 02:57 AM, Marcio wrote:
Of course this was because she needed to be approved before posting (this was her first post on the group).
It won't help for those people that don't read the messages, but I include this in our Welcome notice for new members:
"All new members will have their messages moderated (checked) before they will be posted.? There may be delays, sometimes extended, depending on when a moderator can get to it.? After you've made a few posts and we know that you're following the Guidelines, the delay will be removed.? It may be returned at a later time though if your posts don't meet the Guidelines."

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Re: Notice For a Message Needing Approval (i.e.: New Users Moderated)

 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 08:57 AM, Marcio wrote:
At that moment she had sent more than three messages just because she haven't gotten any message telling she would need to wait her first message to be approved.
Perhaps she should develop some patience, and at the same time make an attempt to learn how groups (not just on Groups.io) actually operate. I don't think groups anywhere should be set up so that they accommodate people who can't be bothered to find out what's what.

I am in the UK and am well accustomed to longish delays in moderation because this group is moderated in the US.

Life is sometimes frustrating, and we must learn to live with those frustrations.

Chris


Notice For a Message Needing Approval (i.e.: New Users Moderated)

Marcio
 

Hi,
SO, subject says it all. Is there a way of setting up a message to be sent to a person that is needing approval before they can be unmoderated?
If there's no way of doing it yet, could it be a nice feature to be suggested?

I ask because yesterday I had to deal with the following situation.
A new member sent a message to my group and she got worried that she wasn't making it to the list because the message wasn't showing.
Of course this was because she needed to be approved before posting (this was her first post on the group).
I was sleeping at that time so I only saw the message(s) needing approval later on. At that moment she had sent more than three messages just because she haven't gotten any message telling she would need to wait her first message to be approved.
I could create a notice to messages needing approval, I guess, but it would be triggered whenever someone is needing to be approved? (which include moderated members), that's why I don't like this idea.

Well, that's it. Sorry for the long message, I wrote way more than I thought I would do.

Thanks for any thoughts on this.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

[Subject line edited by Moderator for clarity]


Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

Lavon,

YES she added our group address and posted to groups io ...
So, if she's not a member of your AOL group, how do her messages in a groups.io group get transmitted to your AOL group members? Does your AOL group allow non-members to post to the group? Can't your AOL group block her messages?

I don't know anything about AOL, but I would expect that AOL's group software allows your group's owners / moderators to remove, ban, or otherwise block her (or anyone) from posting to the group.

when we were an active AOL group.
"Were"? Presumably you still _are_ an active AOL group.

I'm still failing to understand how she and her Groups.io group(s) are causing a problem for your AOL group.

Can you describe for me a sequence of events?

1) She posts to a Groups.io group that she created.
2) That message goes out to the members of her Groups.io group.
3) If your AOL group's posting address is in her Groups.io group's membership then a copy of her message arrives at your AOL group.
4) It is at this point that I'd expect your AOL group software to reject her message (because she's not a member of your AOL group).

That should be the end of it, her message doesn't reach you or your AOL Group's other members.

Where has my understanding failed?

Shal



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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

Lavon
 



In a message dated 6/3/2019 10:29:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, shals2nd@... writes:



>> Did she add your AOL group's posting address to a Groups.io group?
YES she added our group address and posted to groups io? when we were an active AOL group.


Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

Lavon,

she took our group and added the group to groups io
You've said that several times, but I still don't know what you mean by "took your group". If she's not even a member of your group, in what way did she "take" it?

An external group (such as an AOL group, whatever that is), cannot be a member of a Groups.io group. Only individual email addresses can be added to a Groups.io group.

So that leaves me with the questions I asked before:

Did she add your AOL group's posting address to a Groups.io group?

Did she collect the email addresses of your AOL group's members and
add them to a Groups.io group?

Or did she simply create a Groups.io group with the same name as your
AOL group?
If you don't understand my questions, please ask for clarification.

Perhaps you can describe what happened in greater detail.

Shal


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Re: ADDING TO SUBGROUP

 

Ellen,

Our distribution list has a new member and I am having a problem
putting them into subgroups.
In the Admin group of pages there's a Subgroups page. This is different from the Subgroups page further down, outside of Admin.

In the Admin Subgroups page is a list of your primary group members, and columns for each subgroup. To add (or remove) a member to a subgroup check (or uncheck) the box in the member's row, in the column for the particular subgroup. Then at the bottom of the page click the blue Update button.

You can use the search box at the upper right to find the new member, or sort the table by the Name or Email columns.

Shal


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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

Lavon
 

she took our group and added the group to groups io

In a message dated 6/3/2019 10:11:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, shals2nd@... writes:

Lavon,

> This wasn't her group she didn't create it .? It was created by myself
> and another person ...

And you said this was a group on AOL?

> ... she took it upon herself to add our group to groups io ...

This is the part I still don't understand.

What is it that you mean when you say she added your AOL group to Groups.io?

Did she add your AOL group's posting address to a Groups.io group?

Did she collect the email addresses of your AOL group's members and add
them to a Groups.io group?

Or did she simply create a Groups.io group with the same name as your
AOL group?

Without some clarity on exactly what happened I don't know how to advise
you.

Shal


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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

Lavon,

This wasn't her group she didn't create it . It was created by myself
and another person ...
And you said this was a group on AOL?

... she took it upon herself to add our group to groups io ...
This is the part I still don't understand.

What is it that you mean when you say she added your AOL group to Groups.io?

Did she add your AOL group's posting address to a Groups.io group?

Did she collect the email addresses of your AOL group's members and add them to a Groups.io group?

Or did she simply create a Groups.io group with the same name as your AOL group?

Without some clarity on exactly what happened I don't know how to advise you.

Shal


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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

Lavon
 

This wasn't her group she didn't create it .? It was created by myself and another person and she took it upon herself to add our group to groups io when she was told not to do it not once but twice.? She isn't even in our group she say our ad and saw we? were an AOL group and decided we need to change to groups io? Not her group, not a member and non of her business.
Lavon

In a message dated 6/3/2019 5:25:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, shals2nd@... writes:

Lavon,


What can be done about a person who subscribes our group to Groups io when she was told not to and she isn't the owner or even in the group?? We have an AOL group and she took it upon herself to put us in Groups io.

I'm not sure I understand what happened.

Did she create a group at Groups.io, then add your email addresses to that new group? There are two ways that can be done.

One is that she could have Invited all of your email addresses to join the Groups.io group. You're all free to ignore that invitation and you would not then be members of the Groups.io group.

The other is that, if she's paying for a Premium Groups.io group, you may receive a notice that you've been added to her Groups.io group. If so that notice would have contained an opt-out.

She has groups on Groups io and thinks she can dictate to everyone else.

She can have as many groups on Groups.io as she wishes, but that doesn't mean that anyone else has to participate in those groups. If you didn't opt out in the first place, just leave her groups.


Can we report this person so this doesn't happen again?

If you believe that she has violated Groups.io's Terms of Service you can report that to [email protected], but simply adding you to a group wouldn't ordinarily be a violation. It might become a violation if she does it repeatedly in a manner that may be considered harassment or spamming.

Shal


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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

Lavon
 

But wasn't her group me and another Lady opened it and own it and she tried to sign us up with groups io.? What's to keep anyone from taking your group and doing what they want with it?? Doesn't seem right or fair.
Lavon

In a message dated 6/3/2019 5:02:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, txpigeon@... writes:

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 06:33 PM, Lavon wrote:

What can be done about a person who subscribes our group to Groups io when she was told not to and she isn't the owner or even in the group?
In a word, nothing.? As a new service, Groups.io allows anyone to create any group they wish, as long as the name hasn't been taken.? If folks don't join the group, it may go away eventually, but I don't believe there's a fixed amount of 'idle' time required.

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Re: can you schedule a special notice to go out on a specific date and time

 

Linda,

can you schedule a special notice to go out on a specific date and
time
Not directly.

But you can create an event (in the calendar) for that date and time, and check the "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens (tagged with #cal-notice)" box at the bottom of the Reminders section for that event. Add no other reminders, and select the green "Add Event" button w/o inviting the group.

To make that notice a Special notice, you can use a hashtag with the "Special" box checked. You may not want to check that box in the default #cal-notice hashtag (that would affect notices from all events), but you can add a hashtag of your choosing to the event's "Event Name" field.

That will affect the formatting of the message somewhat.

Along with the default #cal-notice hashtag it will include the day and date in the subject line. It will include the Event Name in the body as a bold text header, and include a "When:" and "Description:" label in bold text.

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ADDING TO SUBGROUP

Ellen Bourne
 

Our distribution list has a new member and I am having a problem putting them into subgroups.


Re: Is there an upload file size limit? #question #usage #notworking

 

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 05:25 PM, Rob Bulnes wrote:
Have my group set to no resizing, but in trying to upload a couple of video files (over 500 mb) the site seems to lock up.

Any suggestions?
I've run into this problem too, using files much smaller than that. I don't think there's a size limit per se, but the upload just times out.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/30953352#16050?for a recent discussion of this.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

Lavon,


What can be done about a person who subscribes our group to Groups io when she was told not to and she isn't the owner or even in the group?? We have an AOL group and she took it upon herself to put us in Groups io.

I'm not sure I understand what happened.

Did she create a group at Groups.io, then add your email addresses to that new group? There are two ways that can be done.

One is that she could have Invited all of your email addresses to join the Groups.io group. You're all free to ignore that invitation and you would not then be members of the Groups.io group.

The other is that, if she's paying for a Premium Groups.io group, you may receive a notice that you've been added to her Groups.io group. If so that notice would have contained an opt-out.
She has groups on Groups io and thinks she can dictate to everyone else.

She can have as many groups on Groups.io as she wishes, but that doesn't mean that anyone else has to participate in those groups. If you didn't opt out in the first place, just leave her groups.
Can we report this person so this doesn't happen again?

If you believe that she has violated Groups.io's Terms of Service you can report that to [email protected], but simply adding you to a group wouldn't ordinarily be a violation. It might become a violation if she does it repeatedly in a manner that may be considered harassment or spamming.

Shal


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can you schedule a special notice to go out on a specific date and time

 

can you schedule a special notice to go out on a specific date and time


Re: QUESTION About joining Groups io

 

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 06:33 PM, Lavon wrote:
What can be done about a person who subscribes our group to Groups io when she was told not to and she isn't the owner or even in the group?
In a word, nothing.? As a new service, Groups.io allows anyone to create any group they wish, as long as the name hasn't been taken.? If folks don't join the group, it may go away eventually, but I don't believe there's a fixed amount of 'idle' time required.

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Re: No attachment/photo icon when composing on web

 

Thanks Frances and Shal
And yes - edit post is another place I have experienced this.
It seems like there is no solution at the moment but at least you have confirmed that, so I can stop desperately searching the settings list!
If there is ever talk of adding this feature (as per your previous threads) I would definitely vote in favour.
Best wishes
Helen