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Re: Username not set?

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 09:19 am, ray_r.rm wrote:
I have two members that are flagged with the message: username is not set.
They have a username along with their e-mail address.
What do I need to do to fix it?
Nothing is broken. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/18091525#7819

Bruce?
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam #poll

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 09:18 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
At the risk of reopening an endless thread...
It seems to be an endless problem, so an endless thread is almost inevitable; that or a multiplicity of threads with slightly different "Subjects".

As it turned out, he had become fed up with [what he considered to be] too many chatty, off-topic messages in the group, and had begun actively sending them to spam. I asked him if he wanted his group subscription to be reinstated, with the caveat that he would have to learn to tolerate them. He said "no."

I think I would have been tempted to ask (quite forcefully!) why he hadn't just left the group without wasting his own and your time marking things as spam.

On - line groups would be so much easier if it wasn't for the members...

Chris
Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam #poll

 

Bruce,

As it turned out, he had become fed up with [what he considered to be] too many chatty, off-topic messages in the group, and had begun actively sending them to spam. I asked him if he wanted his group subscription to be reinstated, with the caveat that he would have to learn to tolerate them. He said "no."

Perhaps that former member would benefit from Following Only + First Message Also, to give him more control over the chatter. Or even just muting threads.

On the other hand, he may not be the sort of person who has the patience to exercise that level of control. And he'd still have to resist the urge to click Spam rather than just Delete.

Shal


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Re: bouncing - I have the same problem - please advise!

 

Hello!
I have a member whose emails to the list are bouncing ¨C she has clicked the 'unbounce' link at the bottom and received an (online) acknowledgement that this has worked.
But she still can't send messages.
I have looked at her entry in the members' list but there is no "B" for bouncing or any indication that anything is wrong.

What should I do? Will it help to unsbuscribe her and re-invite her?
The email she received from groups.io is below.

Separately, I'm generally really happy with Groups.io ¨C I've asked members of my old Yahoo! list to join the new list rather than transfer them automatically.
The old list started in 2002 and had nearly 1000 members. In less than one month, we have nearly 300 members on the new list, and it is being more active than before.
I have one more query which I'll post separately.

Thank you, all, for your support.

Erica

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============ Forwarded message ============
From : Groups.io <[email protected]>
To : [redacted]
Date : Mon, 04 Jun 2018 20:45:11 +0000
Subject : Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
============ Forwarded message ============

Hello,

Recently, emails sent to you have bounced back to us. This can be for many reasons, including:

- We have an incorrect email address for you.
- Your account was or is full.
- Other temporary delivery issues.

We have suspended email delivery to you. This means you will no longer receive messages from the groups you are subscribed to, including:

[email protected]
You must take action to restore your account, or we will unsubscribe you from all of the groups you are a member of.

To unbounce your account, go to the following link:

/unbounce?email=[redacted]&cookie=2412293834290700872

Thank you,
The Groups.io Team


[personal identifiers redacted by moderator]
Re: Premium plan payment options

 

Hi Latika,

If you are already the owner of a group, you can see all the options under Admin | Billing.

If you are not, then looking at my Billing options, I only see monthly or annual payments. Payment method is only by Credit Card.

If you have a need to change the Billing options, then you can post a request in the Beta group. I did a quick search in the Beta group to see if there has been any discussion of different payment methods and periods. There was a request to allow PayPal as a payment option, but I don't see any sign that this was added to the "to do" list. By the way, the Groups.io 'to do" list is here, and you can search using the Filter in the Menu on the right hand side. There is nothing that I found that contains Payment or Billing :-



I suspect that Groups.io are trying to keep it simple, as it does take time to keep track of the payments, if you allow different options for payment method and the payment period. On the other hand, more income in advance from multiple year payments would allow them to employ someone for the admin tasks.

Regards
John Russell
Username not set?

 

I have two members that are flagged with the message: username is not set.
They have a username along with their e-mail address.
What do I need to do to fix it?
Thanks,
Richard
Re: Yahoogroup and Iogroup side by side?

Heijo Alting
 

Good question. Some members of our group may be reluctant to change their routines, that's all.


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:28 pm, Bruce Wilson wrote:
My question is why would you want to do that?
Re: Moving from Yahoo Groups

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 04:14 am, Ashar Iqbal wrote:
One of the members does have the messages downloaded (around 10GB, no significant attachments).?Is there any mechanism to import messages when we don't have admin rights on the old Yahoo Group?
It is possible, IF you can convert the archive to mbox format. Last word I have is that support is NOT giving such requests priority over pending Y!G transfers.

See also this thread: /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/18690003#8233

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Automatic Deletion of Members If Message Marked As Spam #poll

 

At the risk of reopening an endless thread...

A few days ago someone was bumped off the group for marking a message as spam. As he had also failed to click the resubscribe link in GIO's canned message, I followed up with the member to see what was going on.

As it turned out, he had become fed up with [what he considered to be] too many chatty, off-topic messages in the group, and had begun actively sending them to spam. I asked him if he wanted his group subscription to be reinstated, with the caveat that he would have to learn to tolerate them. He said "no."

We group owners have spent a lot of time (too much time?) complaining about this particular feature. I just wanted to point out that sometimes these feedback loops work exactly the way they're supposed to.

Regards,
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Help transferring from Yahoogroups

Brian Mileshosky
 

Hi Everyone ¡ª
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I¡¯m trying to migrate two Yahoogroups lists over to?. ?I have followed the transfer instructions found on??to the letter. ?[email protected]?became a member of both my Yahoogroups lists on May 3 and have been made moderators. ?However the transfer has not happened since then, after I signaled to??that was ready to proceed.
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Since then I have gone through the easy transfer steps two more times, in case something was gummed up somewhere. ?No result.
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Two emails to?[email protected]?flagging the issue and asking for assistance over the past month have gone unanswered.
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One thing I¡¯ve noticed is that, at no time despite what I describe above, have either of the groups I¡¯m trying to transfer been listed in the ¡°In Process¡± drop-down box that appears at?/yahootransfer.?
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Looking for ideas, please. ?I¡¯ve talked the benefits of??up to the subscribers of the Yahoogroups I¡¯m trying to transfer, but being unable to transfer the site over the past month isn¡¯t helping with impressions.
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Thanks,
B
Re: Delete old YG group bouncing accounts before moving to IO?

 

On a related subject, once your transfer is complete it's a good idea to go to your Yahoo Group and post a notice on the home page that the group has moved and the new homepages is (your new GIO URL).? Once I did that, I changed all messages on the YG to "moderated" so members who didn't get word of the transfer and tried to post to the old group would be called to my attention, and each got an email explaining the situation.? That process has worked well.

Milt Baker
Moving from Yahoo Groups

Ashar Iqbal
 

Background: we have a Yahoo group managed by a professional association. The group is being shut down by the association. A number of the members have setup a new group and we now have quite a few people moved across.

All is good, but we would also like to bring the archived messages across. One of the members does have the messages downloaded (around 10GB, no significant attachments).?Is there any mechanism to import messages when we don't have admin rights on the old Yahoo Group?
Re: Delete old YG group bouncing accounts before moving to IO?

 

Marina,

I am getting quite a number of bounces, on account of e-mail addresses
no longer valid or aborted delivery (mainly affecting Yahoo accounts).
I am not surprised, yet, I am not sure how to deal with all these
bounced accounts.
As Barbara said, those Y!Group members in the Bouncing list won't be transferred. So you really needn't go and delete them.

However, the list of Bouncing members in your Y!Group may have two types of error: 1) addresses missing from the bouncing list that are actually bad; and 2) addresses on the bouncing list that actually are ok.

Addresses in case (1) will be immediately picked up by Groups.io's bouncing mechanism. The notice sent by the transfer agent, and/or your group's Welcome notice, will identify if those bounce.

Addresses in case (2) are hopefully small in number, but you might consider sending a Groups.io invite to the Y!Group's bouncing list to see if you pick any of them up. The majority of those invites will bounce of course, but it is easier than contacting them individually. If you have fewer than 1000 members you can export that list from Yahoo and then paste them into your Groups.io's Invite page.

Shal


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Re: #membership #issue GDPR Compliance questions - seeking help #membership #issue

 

Pete,

Are any measures required from a group owner perspective, or should it
just be business as usual?
Here is the usual IANAL disclaimer, with the additional fact that I'm in the U.S. and so have only a superficial interest in the GDPR.

I think for group owners/mods it is pretty much business as usual, so long as you aren't asking for any personal data, such as real names or physical addresses.

Email addresses, and the email content, I think are clearly voluntary disclosures, and need not contain any personal identifiers. Moreover, the member intends for that information to be disclosed to their fellow group members - that's the very nature of an email list.

Have any other group members done anything yet to ensure that their
group is compliant with GDPR?
Beyond paying attention for any instructions on the subject from Groups.io, no. So far nothing has turned up that affects the operation of groups; just more disclosures and additional features that the site provides.

In particular, the site now provides a means for members to retrieve a copy of their own information; so group owners don't have to worry about those requests. And the site has determined that the right to be forgotten does not imply a need to delete member-provided content.


Shal


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Premium plan payment options

 

Hello,

For the Premium plan, would anyone know if a group can:

1. Pay for multiple years at once?
2. Pay by check instead of card?

Trying to understand what options are available. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Latika
Re: Yahoogroup and Iogroup side by side?

 

Well two suggestions to post to both groups

i) Get every group member to post to both groups.

ii) Subscribe a 'forwarding' email address to iogroups and on your email software set up a rule to forward to the yahoogroup. All messages on yahoogroup will show up as coming from the forwarding email address though.

One word of caution about the last option. With all the various changes to data laws, especially in the EU, forwarding on messages from someone else to a group they have not signed up for may get you into serious trouble.
I for one would not want anything to go on yahoogroups after seeing their latest 'terms and conditions' and what they will be doing with my data.

Alexis

On 04/06/2018 15:51, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Bruce,
You took the kIeystrokes right out of my fingers.
Literally thousands of groups have migrated away from Yahoo; most have done this
recently because of the total unreliability of YG and the total lack of not only
support but basic encouragement to groups to hang in there.
If 10,000 more groups exit yahoo I wouldn't be surprised. Their Board of
Directors has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with virtually every
decision they have made. (Catchphrase courtesy of the old Datamation magazine
in an article about why Sperry Rand lost the battle with IBM ca 1970)
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Re: Yahoogroup and Iogroup side by side?

 

Bruce,
You took the kIeystrokes right out of my fingers.
Literally thousands of groups have migrated away from Yahoo; most have done this recently because of the total unreliability of YG and the total lack of not only support but basic encouragement to groups to hang in there.
If 10,000 more groups exit yahoo I wouldn't be surprised.? Their Board of Directors has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with virtually every decision they have made.? ?(Catchphrase courtesy of the? old Datamation magazine in an article about why Sperry Rand lost the battle with IBM ca 1970)
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Founder, Fuchs Friends??
Founder & Executive Director,?
Re: Diferent 'status/privileges' based upon how a group is accessed?

 

If you are an owner and a simple member on the same group(s), you could use your owner ability to check your simple user settings and also the globall group settings.??
The same goes for being a moderator but you have less ability to do so.

I think you will find that many of what you? consider "issues" are really owner/moderator setting to individual groups.
and your attempt to "globally" attack the problem will continue to frustrate you.
You should build a matrix for each of your apparent login abilities
  • with each of your groups in the row position
  • and each of what privileges you think you should have in the column positions.
Then, one login at a time, start testing what you can do on each? group, annotating your matrices until you have a full picture of what you can do with each login on each group.

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Founder, Fuchs Friends??
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Re: Diferent 'status/privileges' based upon how a group is accessed?

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 09:22 am, Jim Betz wrote:
It appears that if I am the owner or a moderator I do not have this
problem.?
Sounds to me like the group owner is the problem. I'd send him a screenshot of the corresponding location in Settings. (Features->Photos->Permissions)

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Yahoogroup and Iogroup side by side?

 

My question is why would you want to do that?? YG are in turmoil which is the reason so many groups are moving/have moved to groups.io.? Transfer your group to groups.io and the mothball the old YG by preventing anyone from posting except admins and put everyone on moderated status so if they try to post you can send them a message saying the YG is inactive and post to the new groups.io.? Keeping the old YG active defeats the whole purpose of moving to groups.io.


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