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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:23 AM, Alex wrote:

P.S., When I do this procedure (same clicks) in a different group I'm also an owner of I am able to see and access the whole membership list.

I think you must be looking at Directory, not in Admin, Members.
See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/6114
Or perhaps you are not logged in as owner. On the top left, beside Home, does it say owner?

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:23 AM, Alex wrote:

Problem is, when I follow that procedure the only member I can see is one Pending member. Can't see the rest. In other words... I never make it to step 2.? :-(

Just re-read your post. You say "Pending member". Do you mean people who have applied to join your group? That's not how you deal with pending members.
See instead?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-members/handling-pending-members?single=true
You need to pull down the members menu to see pending members.
The instructions you posted in your original post we dealing with existing members, not pending members.

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:23 AM, Alex wrote:

Groups.io help says
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To moderate an individual member:

1. In the left navigation menu on the group’s website, select?Admin?>?Members. The Members page appears.
2. Locate the member’s row and click in it to display their individual membership page.
3. Scroll down to the Posting Privileges panel.
4. Select the level of moderation you want to apply to this member:

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Problem is, when I follow that procedure the only member I can see is one Pending member. Can't see the rest. In other words... I never make it to step 2.? :-(
And, though I can see the? member I want to moderate if I go to the Member Directory, members' settings can't be changed from there.

First, this is for one member at a time only. And really, I don't recommend this procedure. (Although it does work. I just did it:
In Members in Admin (not directory), find the member. You can use the search box at the top of the list of names. Click on the name (don't use the tick box.) Then scroll down. Be sure to save after you have made the change.

As I say, this would be an unusual change, I think. The Help page you quoted says? Or perhaps you want to promote the person to owner or moderator? There is another way to do that.
I am not sure whether you have set a default sub setting (second tab in Admin, Settings). That can be changed by individual users / members for their own account. And it doesn't change people who are already members of your group.

Frances

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Groups.io help says
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To moderate an individual member:

1. In the left navigation menu on the group’s website, select?Admin?>?Members. The Members page appears.
2. Locate the member’s row and click in it to display their individual membership page.
3. Scroll down to the Posting Privileges panel.
4. Select the level of moderation you want to apply to this member:

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Problem is, when I follow that procedure the only member I can see is one Pending member. Can't see the rest. In other words... I never make it to step 2.? :-(
And, though I can see the? member I want to moderate if I go to the Member Directory, members' settings can't be changed from there.

Help?

Alex
P.S., When I do this procedure (same clicks) in a different group I'm also an owner of I am able to see and access the whole membership list.

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 06:05 PM, Alex wrote:

Offhand, I'm guessing they'd have to proactively create an account because an account requires they have a password, and in doing a direct add we certainly don't assign passwords.

I didn't address this directly. Direct adding (or adding a member in any way) creates a Groups.io account if they don't already have one. And your new members do have an account since you added them..

It is important for them to use Log In, not Sign Up.
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/login
And they can use the Email me a link function. It is important that they log in with the email address that you have in your group Members lists (in Admin).

I suggest that if you haven't done so, you check out?/helpcenter/gettingstarted

Frances

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 06:05 PM, Alex wrote:

I'd like to know if when I added them they each automatically get a groups.io account (which would allow them to go on the site and for example, set themselves to Digest Mode, etc) or if they'd have to create accounts? And if create, short directions to them for doing so?

Offhand, I'm guessing they'd have to proactively create an account because an account requires they have a password, and in doing a direct add we certainly don't assign passwords.

Yes, members of your group have an account with Groups.io
Their email address is their account ID.

They won't have a password. However they don't need one.?They need not go to your group homepage if they don't wish to. Many people participate happily without the need to do so.

If they wish to go to your group homepage, they can click on Email me a link to log in.?
See this GMF wiki page -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/8901
They can set a password or not.

Help exists already -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts
Especially -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/logging-in-to-your-account

You might want to create a non-owner/moderator account (i.e. with another email address) and join your group. Then you can see what members see.

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Many of our members in a group recently migrated from yahoo into a new group I moderate at groups.io never had "profiles" (accounts) at yahoo.
That was a PITA when they wanted to change email addresses, etc.

The members of my new group were all by direct ADDING.
I'd like to know if when I added them they each automatically get a groups.io account (which would allow them to go on the site and for example, set themselves to Digest Mode, etc) or if they'd have to create accounts? And if create, short directions to them for doing so?

Offhand, I'm guessing they'd have to proactively create an account because an account requires they have a password, and in doing a direct add we certainly don't assign passwords.

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Yes. Mark reported it fixed.
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 03:33 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

Are “group profiles” system wide or just the group I am in right now? ?

Carla -- Both.

Go to?/account?page=viewprofile?to see (and edit) all the profiles associated with your account.

I presumed the latter, but was then surprised to see private location details from my neighborhood group displayed here in Group Managers Forum too.

Do some aspects of my profile travel to all forums?

Yes. See the "grey box" notice at the top of the page previously cited. However, you also have to share the profile with others before it will be seen.

More info in the Members Manual:??/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information?

Regards,
Bruce

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 03:16 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:

In another venue where I post a lot, all messages are HTML and all capable URLS display a “link preview” pulled from the meta data at the target site

Carla -- There is currently no Facebook-like preview feature, although more than once.

Regards,
Bruce

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(excuse me while I append a current query to a similar prior topic)

Are “group profiles” system wide or just the group I am in right now? ?I presumed the latter, but was then surprised to see private location details from my neighborhood group displayed here in Group Managers Forum too.

Do some aspects of my profile travel to all forums?

In another venue where I post a lot, all messages are HTML and all capable URLS display a “link preview” pulled from the meta data at the target site. Sample image below from an Amazon page. It’s lovely ro preview content and context before you click.



My question is whether your platform here (in any mode) is equipped with link previews too? I am guessing not, but thought I should confirm, thanks.

Can you please clarify?

I thought the original post was from an owner of a basic group who wanted to add a non-group member to a subgroup without the invitation process.?

Does this workaround only apply to premium groups where direct add is available?

The Help says:

Once someone is a member of the parent group, they can subscribe directly to the subgroup (if permitted), they can be added directly to the subgroup, or they can ask to join the subgroup (if it is restricted).

Frances

PS I wish those seeking solutions would give a bit more detail about their group status! Basic, basic legacy enabled, premium, enterprise.



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I suspect the 'time before epoch' will equal your local offset from UTC.
Seen that happen in Unix systems for decades.

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:49 AM, Peter Cook wrote:

Don, I reported it here:??

And 90 minutes later, it seems to have been fixed.

Thanks,
Bruce

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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM, Terry Slattery wrote:

Identifying members whose mailbox is disabled or otherwise inactive is entirely a manual process.

Terry -- I don't see it that way. Bouncing members can be easily found by selecting Bouncing from the blue pull-down menu at upper left.

Of course, to determine if an account is actually bouncing, you first have to send it something.

With per-member pricing, GIO will need to create easy-to-use mechanisms to police membership lists for various types of failures and allow moderators/owners to purge those defunct members.

Depends on what you mean by a "failure." Depending on the group's purpose, someone who is lurking without making any contribution to the group could be legitimately culled as deadwood. A statistical summary of group activity by member ("posts in the past 180 days" or something of that nature) would be welcome addition to the Member List. Perhaps other mechanisms could be made available.

But I'm just a group owner, like yourself. Any actual suggestion should be taken to Mark.?

Regards,
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM, Don Grass wrote:

This has to be a bug to report to Support.

Don, I reported it here:??

Pete

I'm an idiot.

Epoch being 01/01/1970 00:00:00 GMT0 converts into a wall clock time & date between 5 and 8 hours earlier on 12/31/1969 within the lower 48, depending where you are at.

-Cornelius

Cornelius Keck wrote:

Peter,

All of our album photos have the same Taken date of 12/31/1969 as yours. This has to be a bug to report to Support.

Don

That's right before Unix epoch time (1/1/1970, 00:00:00), question is how much, is it just one second so that the pictures' timestamp is 0xffffffff, or is it 12/31/1969 23:00:00? If you download an image, does the image file's EXIF header show that timestamp?

Either way, this sounds like a bona fide bug.

Peter Cook wrote: