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Re: Integrating Facebook

 

That's a pain - it would have been really handy. Thanks for the info.

Kay
Messages not going through #messages

 

I am owner of a group that I created from scratch rather than by importing. ?I have successfully posted by email to my group in the past couple of months. ?This morning I sent, from my email (the same email that I use for ), two messages to my group. ?It has been a while and neither message has come to my inbox, and neither message appears on the group page in my browser. So I have to assume no one else who is a member of my group is receiving it either. ?Is there a delay in messages posting? ?Is something wrong? ?
Re: ?Hashtags

Gerald Boutin
 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 08:30 AM, Jonah the Whale wrote:
In the current transfer of genealogy sites from Rootsweb, groups are
generating duplicated hashtags by placing keyword hashtags at the
beginning of a subject line.? However the hashtag then appears at the
start of that line and is displayed as a coloured emoji style icon at
the end of the subject line.

What are we all doing incorrectly as the coloured version is all that is
required by us?? Sample output enclosed.


Regards,

John Scott
If you generate the new topic online, this won't happen when you use the - Add Tags - option.


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Insert or swap rows in a database table

 

I created a table and added about 10 rows. Now I want to insert a row at the top of the table. And also swap a few rows. If there is a way to do that could someone please point me to what I should do.
Re: Help in migration from Yahoo Groups

 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM, Fausto Passariello wrote:
- 1 - is it possible for the support service to disable the 500 message error to make possible the transfer or at least to increase the allowed transfer rate ?
You'd need to ask [email protected] about that.? I don't know if they'd be willing to make an exception or not.

- 2 - if I upgrade to the Premium profile and ask for a transfer made by Groups.io
- - - - a)?will the procedure require the same time or will it be quicker ?
- - - -?b) will I receive an invoice, in order to comply with tax laws in my country ?
a)? If you have the mbox file from the Yahoo Get My Data request, GIO can do it (after you pay for the Annual Premium group.)? That would also require contacting support.? It shouldn't take long at all once it gets started, but there may be a short delay to get started.

b)? Only support can answer that.? This is a user-to-user group, so no one from GIO management is here.

Duane
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Re: Integrating Facebook

 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM, Kay H wrote:
Any ideas why this isn't working?
FB broke this some time ago.? It was announced a few days ago that it probably won't be back,

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Help in migration from Yahoo Groups

Fausto Passariello
 

Dear All, dear Mark,
I'm trying to migrate from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io.

I started with a free account on groups.io and I'm using the Lena ioimport.pl perl script to add the Yahoo message archives to several groups.

The procedure works fine and like forwarding messages to the group, though the system requires a rate less than 40 messages per 30 minutes.
Applying the delay of 50 seconds, theoretically admittable, the system stops frequently with a "500 message error", claiming that the rate is greater than?40 messages per 30 minutes, while really it is not.

For small groups this annoying message can be tolerated.

However, I have a group with more than 13800 messages and the message becomes always and always more frequent.
Waiting then for almost half a hour, it appears again after a few messages.
I tried to increase the deleay till 70 seconds, but the issue represents again.

As using 70 seconds the procedure will last at minimum 11 days, I ask:
- 1 - is it possible for the support service to disable the 500 message error to make possible the transfer or at least to increase the allowed transfer rate ?
- 2 - if I upgrade to the Premium profile and ask for a transfer made by Groups.io
- - - - a)?will the procedure require the same time or will it be quicker ?
- - - -?b) will I receive an invoice, in order to comply with tax laws in my country ?

Thanks

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Integrating Facebook

 

Hi, I've just set up a new group and am trying to integrate a Facebook page but the url is not being recognised. The url is?
Any ideas why this isn't working?

thanks
Kay
Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

Samuel,

PGO-2-GIO is using HTTP.

Note that both HTTP and SMTP have the unfortunate effect of making every post appear as it came from one individual.

Larry

On Monday, January 13, 2020, 11:45:55 AM EST, Samuel Murray <samuelmurray@...> wrote:


On 13/01/2020 15:46, Laurence Marks wrote:

> I believe you are incorrect, but it could be a matter of definitions.
>? Let's use these:
>
> *Upload:* Messages from Yahoo Groups which have been captured on an
> individual's computer are transferred by any means to appear as
> individual messages on a group in Groups,io.
>
> *Forwarded:* Messages sent to another address will be relayed to
> Groups.io

Yes, I suppose it's a matter of definitions.

To my mind, "forward" in this context means that an existing message is
added to the IO group using SMTP or a similar service.? "upload" means
that the messages are added as files, usually via an upload dialog in
the browser or possibly via the API, and "import" means that the content
is added to the group in such a way that they are stored in a different
format.

Okay, I'm sure there are holes in these definitions (for example, when
the IO developers add messages to a group's actual archive by converting
MBOX files, I could call that "importing", but mortals can't do that).

> Using those definitions, the messages are uploaded.

It is my understanding that both PG Offline's new tool and Lena's method
use SMTP to "upload" the messages.? Hence my label "forwarding".? The
messages end up in the IO group's message archive, and currently the
only way to upload messages into that message archive is by sending it
as an actual e-mail (I'm not sure about the new API).

I'm not dissing the PG Offline tool or Lena's script.? One advantage of
using such an approach would be to ensure that added messages are
grouped together properly into "topics", as they are called on IO
groups.? Messages that were added to groups via the Easy Transfer method
do not get sorted into topics even if they have identical subject lines
and were posted shortly after each other.? I'm sure this can still be
fixed by the IO groups developers.

==

In another post I mentioned redirection as an alternative to forwarding,
but I got to a point where IO groups started doing odd things to my
mails and could not figure out why.? Redirection retains the original
poster as the actual original sender, and it retains both threading and
the original posting date in mail programs (although that is only
relevant for people who download the message archives).

Samuel
Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

Mark posted that there were DNS server problems, which have now been fixed.? It may take some time for the fix to populate throughout the internet.
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?? Bob

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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:44 AM Jeff Coleman via Groups.Io <jeff.coleman=[email protected]> wrote:

I had this a short time ago, but trying again 10 minutes later everything was back to normal. I think there must be quite a lot of traffic for the servers to cope with, possibly from the migration of a number of Rootsweb mailing lists after Rootsweb announced a few days ago they were closing down mailing lists from 2nd March.

Jeff

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rachel via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Anyone else's group down?

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I keep getting this error -- and have tried to send through messages that aren't coming through -- when the group does come back up.
Rachel


This site can¡¯t be reached

?¡¯s server IP address could not be found.

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  • Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN


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Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

On 13/01/2020 15:46, Laurence Marks wrote:

I believe you are incorrect, but it could be a matter of definitions.
Let's use these:
*Upload:* Messages from Yahoo Groups which have been captured on an individual's computer are transferred by any means to appear as individual messages on a group in Groups,io.
*Forwarded:* Messages sent to another address will be relayed to
Groups.io
Yes, I suppose it's a matter of definitions.

To my mind, "forward" in this context means that an existing message is
added to the IO group using SMTP or a similar service. "upload" means
that the messages are added as files, usually via an upload dialog in
the browser or possibly via the API, and "import" means that the content
is added to the group in such a way that they are stored in a different
format.

Okay, I'm sure there are holes in these definitions (for example, when
the IO developers add messages to a group's actual archive by converting
MBOX files, I could call that "importing", but mortals can't do that).

Using those definitions, the messages are uploaded.
It is my understanding that both PG Offline's new tool and Lena's method
use SMTP to "upload" the messages. Hence my label "forwarding". The
messages end up in the IO group's message archive, and currently the
only way to upload messages into that message archive is by sending it
as an actual e-mail (I'm not sure about the new API).

I'm not dissing the PG Offline tool or Lena's script. One advantage of
using such an approach would be to ensure that added messages are
grouped together properly into "topics", as they are called on IO
groups. Messages that were added to groups via the Easy Transfer method
do not get sorted into topics even if they have identical subject lines
and were posted shortly after each other. I'm sure this can still be
fixed by the IO groups developers.

==

In another post I mentioned redirection as an alternative to forwarding,
but I got to a point where IO groups started doing odd things to my
mails and could not figure out why. Redirection retains the original
poster as the actual original sender, and it retains both threading and
the original posting date in mail programs (although that is only
relevant for people who download the message archives).

Samuel
Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

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I had this a short time ago, but trying again 10 minutes later everything was back to normal. I think there must be quite a lot of traffic for the servers to cope with, possibly from the migration of a number of Rootsweb mailing lists after Rootsweb announced a few days ago they were closing down mailing lists from 2nd March.

Jeff

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rachel via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 January 2020 15:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: [GMF] Anyone else's group down?

?

I keep getting this error -- and have tried to send through messages that aren't coming through -- when the group does come back up.
Rachel


This site can¡¯t be reached

groups.XXXX.com?¡¯s server IP address could not be found.

?

  • Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN


I
Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

Yes several times today

Overloaded with Rootsweb list transitions perhaps

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 13/01/2020 15:48, Rachel via Groups.Io wrote:
I keep getting this error -- and have tried to send through messages that aren't coming through -- when the group does come back up.
Rachel
Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

I couldn't log in for a couple of hours this morning. Internet gremlins, I suppose. Or difficulties with a DNS server. 100% availability really is too much to expect.
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Canyon Lake, Texas
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Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

Same here, off and on.
Re: Anyone else's group down?

 

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Try removing the https and replace with just http in the address bar.

John?


On 13 Jan 2020, at 15:52, Rachel via Groups.Io <rachelfran@...> wrote:

?I keep getting this error -- and have tried to send through messages that aren't coming through -- when the group does come back up.
Rachel

This site can¡¯t be reached

groups.XXXX.com?¡¯s server IP address could not be found.

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  • Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN


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Anyone else's group down?

 

I keep getting this error -- and have tried to send through messages that aren't coming through -- when the group does come back up.
Rachel

This site can¡¯t be reached

groups.XXXX.com?¡¯s server IP address could not be found.

?

  • Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN


I
Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 08:54 AM, Laurence Marks wrote:
  • Positive: Every message is posted?with all its attachments, something that Groups.io's transfer does not support. Over 1/4 of our messages had attachments, so preservation or a means for reconstruction was a requirement.
Uploading the attachments and adding a link to the message would also serve as "a means for reconstruction" and is free.

  • Positive: The Groups.io message numbers match the Yahoo message numbers so any embedded references remain correct. This includes compensation for deleted messages.
But ONLY for a group/subgroup that has never had ANY messages posted.? While the message numbers would be correct, any links wouldn't since they'd point to the YG, unless those are also fixed.? (BTW, Larry's message and this one refer to the P2G utility, $50 minimum [once promised for free].)

Duane
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Re: Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism) #howtoguide

 

Bruce Bowman wrote:
3. PGO2GIO software. Rumor has it that this will reattach your message attachments, but like Lena's script, suffers from being unable to reconstruct the message "ownership" or posting date. It costs $50 (minimum), but at this point remains in beta testing, with no clear release date.


I'm a beta tester. You can see the results of a PGO-2-GIO transfer here?including attachments.?This site will likely be static for a while; I occasionally delete the content and reload it for testing. I've just renamed it, so it might not be accessible for a few hours.

Larry
Re: GIO changes from Mark

 

Another intriguing thought.

Samuel, your use of the word "Forwarding" is intriguing.

Suppose someone with a Yahoo group does not wish to move to Groups.io but would like an ongoing online archive available to all users. The Yahoo owner could create a Groups.io group and subscribe it to the Yahoo group, providing a searchable archive without affecting the subscribed users at all.

I suppose I could have done this, but my plan is to move the users over and close the Yahoo group today or tomorrow.

Larry

Larry
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