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Re: Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism)
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 08:51 PM, D R Stinson wrote:
Is there a reason why the import couldn't be put right into the message archives? I've rescued an orphaned group and we have the Yahoo zip files for the group. (We also have PGO files.)?The current groups.io archives start from about a year ago, and I recognize the message numbering of the imported messages?would fall into the sequence on the date it was imported.You'd end up with 2 YG in one GIO group, correct?? There's no problem with that and it's been done a few times that I know of (some intentional, some not. ;>)? It's only critical if you want to keep all the information separate. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism)
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If the data are small enough to not require a premium group, you could create a test group and upload/delete repeatedly until you are satisfied that everything has worked right. Then create the real group, repeat the proven upload procedure, invite the members, and delete the test group. Larry |
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Re: Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism)
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBruce -
A little tangent from this thread, but I thought I'd leave it connected.
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> 2. The groups.io mbox import service. This retains both message
>?ownership and proper posting dates, but not attachments.
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> If you use groups.io's service, just make darn sure you tell Mark
>?exactly which [sub]group is your intended destination, and
>?provide the correct "messages.zip" file.
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Is there a reason why the import couldn't be put right into the message archives? I've rescued an orphaned group and we have the Yahoo zip files for the group. (We also have PGO files.)?The current groups.io archives start from about a year ago, and I recognize the message numbering of the imported messages?would fall into the sequence on the date it was imported.
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I already have a group that was transferred back when group transfers were just getting started, and there are messages from that date mixed in with the archives as they were downloading. But by displaying messages in chronological order, the message numbers don't particularly matter.
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Attachments aren't going to reattach anyway, so I don't see why it would matter if the old messages were put into the current archives. Is there something about threading that uses the message numbers?
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None of my groups have subgroups, and I'd rather not have to create a subgroup which is just likely to confuse many of the members.
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Thanks for your thoughts.
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Dano
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Re: GIO changes from Mark
Shal Farley wrote:
If you already have a PG Offline download you're in pretty good shape with regard to Files and Photos. If you already have a Get My Data download you're in great shape with regard to Messages. If you have a PG Offline download, you will soon be able to upload it?with all your attachments to Groups.io. I have (I believe) gotten past the last obstacle, a single message that was being rejected by Groups.io. I'm testing a version of a companion program to PG Offline by the same firm. Larry |
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Re: GIO changes from Mark
Jim,
Is it too late to move a group from Yahoo?That depends on how much "prep" work you've done. It is too late to use the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer method, and it is too late to use PG Offline or similar tools to download the Yahoo Group content. You still have until Jan 31st to request a Get My Data download from Yahoo. If you already have a PG Offline download you're in pretty good shape with regard to Files and Photos. If you already have a Get My Data download you're in great shape with regard to Messages. See this wiki page for more details: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io I have a group and want to load stuff in two sub-groups but they willNote that the increase was only for groups on a Premium plan. Basic (free) groups still have a 1 GB limit. Since the space has increased, will sub-goups space used beI believe that the original intent was that the storage limit would apply to the sum of the storage in the primary and its subgroups. That hasn't been the case though, and each subgroup has been counting against its own limit. So the answer going forward is murky: I think of the current situation as a "bug" that's bound to get fixed one day. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: iOS Screen on Browser
Peter,
Any chance someone could pass this note onto Mark Fletcher?Yes - you can! Email to [email protected] and try to include as much detail as you can about the system where you don't see the Actions menu. Device type, iOS version, browser name and version. Plus anything else you can think of that might be relevant. GMF is a user-to-user forum, so none of us have an inside path. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Group with same name
Lin,
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Lin Duke wrote:Technically, 99% NO and 1% YES. First, by "group name" I take it you mean "email address prefix" really (which is what Groups.io uses for top-level group uniqueness), and not "group title"; the group title can be the same as anything else.? For example, I can create a top-level group, [email protected], and title it " My XYZ group", and you create another top-level group, [email protected], and you can also title it "My XYZ group" .? Groups,io uses the combination of the group email address and the title in the group directory, so in this example one would see "XYZ / My XYZ group" and "ABC / My XYZ group" if they were to search for "XYZ" in the group directory. So the 99% part of NO means, when one creates a group at the top-level (not a subgroup), the name (email address prefix) they choose has to be unique against all other top-level groups, aliases, etc., no way around this.? The group creation screen will tell you if you used an existing name/email address prefix; if I try to name my group ABC and [email protected] already exists, I will have to choose something else. The 1% YES means that you can indeed create a subgroup with the same name/email address prefix as a top-level group, or any other subgroup for that matter, as long as that subgroup's name is not already in your own top-level group as a subgroup (i.e. all your group's subgroups have to have different names / email address prefixes between them ala the top-level restriction mentioned above)? The reason this is allowed is because Groups.io incorporates the subgroup name with the main/top-level email address, so it is now unique.? For example, using the above, example: Top-level [email protected] and [email protected], XYZ group can create a subgroup named "ABC", because the resultant group name (full email address) becomes [email protected] and the URL is now XYZ.groups.io/g/ABC, which are different than the top-level [email protected] and groups.io/g/ABC. Cheers, Christos |
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iOS Screen on Browser
Hello,
Any chance someone could pass this note onto Mark Fletcher? i noticed while doing a little cleanup in the bounced members section that you cannot access the ¡°Action menu at the bottom of the screen. Not a big deal since I have access by computer but thought I¡¯d pass it on.? Thanks, Peter --
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Re: GIO changes from Mark
This is great news.? Raising the group space to 20GB.? ? Is it too late to move a group from Yahoo?
Since the space has increased, will sub-goups space used be accumulated into the parent group?? That would be great if it did.? I have a group and want to load stuff in two sub-groups but they will be reference only but both are over 1GB but will be for history and research only. Jim |
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Re: Some messages not displaying fully
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The Missing Messages all downloaded correctly via PGO,?
they all display correctly in Chrome,
and they are all visible correctly during Editing of the message containing them.
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But none of that means they don¡¯t contain bugs :-)
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What I¡¯ve done is delete all the Emailed Digests, and instead I¡¯ve Pasted them directly into Web Messages. It¡¯s a very similar process of course, but slightly easier, and after a bit I could do two a minute.
David
When I¡¯ve got the site working, I¡¯ll go back and check how they display. ?
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Re: Group Addresses in Footer not showing as mailto links in emails
John,
But the ones in the middle which I can change from "post" down toThe text entry box for Message Footer addins in Settings page is plain text. Apparently Groups.io auto-linkifies http(s): URLs when the footer is inserted into a formatted email message, but does not do so with mailto: URLs. The email interface of the member receiving the message may also play a role in this. Gmail's web interface, for example, auto-linkified the email address (showing "mailto:" as plain text). When that same message was seen in Thunderbird (via IMAP from Gmail) it did not linkify the email address of the mailto: URL. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Moving to Groups.io (without the Easy Yahoo Group transfer mechanism)
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On 12 Jan 2020, at 20:20, Alex <acensor@...> wrote: is there any way, our utility, for me to go directly into those inbox files and see the archives read them or search them or whatever?Yes, Alex, they¡¯re Mailboxes that you can simply insert / import / open in your Email Client. Bear in mind you need enough disk space ;-) David 1/2d |
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Re: oops! accidentally deleted group
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 04:28 PM, Jim Wells wrote:
I just blew it! ?I deleted my group...Jim -- The delete dialog clearly states that the action cannot be undone, and forces you to type "I understand" to complete the deletion. If any help is forthcoming on this, it will have to come from support ([email protected]). Please let us know what kind of response you get, for future reference. Bruce |
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