Hello All...

I had a problem today while trying to edit an item in the 'Files' section of my IO Group.

There are icons there for editing, moving, deleting, and reporting each file in that section.

I needed to update a particular file but clicking on 'edit' next to the file only opens a card
showing the following:

a] A blank field with a 'BROWSE' button (but that take me to my Mac's Finder list.
b] a field containng the 'FILE NME'
c] a field containing the 'DESCRIPTION;
d] at the bottom, two buttons: 'CANCEL' and 'UPDATE' –both of which took me back to the files list!

I could click on the name of any file in the list but that only downloaded the file to my (MacBook Pro)
desktop 'as is' which isn't an update. (The same seems to be the case for all the other things in my file
list: Those buttons don't seem to work; I can only click on a file's title and download it.)

So my question is: Why doesn't the 'edit' button next to a file not allow one to update the file? The file
in question in this instance was a MS .docx file. Or could it be a problem with Safari (vers. 11.0.3)? And,
BTW, pausing AdBlock doesn't help here, as doing so at times does.

But, since perhaps I am overlooking something that's part of the process of an editing a file, any suggestions
or explanation for how to do so from the files page accessed from a Group.io's sidebar button would be very
much appreciated.

Regards,

Paul M.
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Charlie,

Otherwise, their unattended account will pose a potential security
risk.

How so? What's at risk?

I don't see much opportunity for mischief in an account that has no subscriptions. If the original person put sensitive information into their Profile that's about the only exposure I see, were the account taken over by a crook.

Shal


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On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:43 AM, Medel Guevarra wrote:

The event in question is an all day event.

I have two other events for that day which are also all-day event and their reminders were sent out correctly.

I suspect it's related to the very close timing of the reminder, but can't be sure.? Rather than use a reminder that close to the beginning of an all day event, maybe you could try using the "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens" option.? That appears to get posted just before the day starts.

Duane
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Thank you for the response.

The timezone for both the calendar event and my account is set to Eastern Time (US).? The event in question is an all day event.

I have two other events for that day which are also all-day event and their reminders were sent out correctly.

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

The owner of the account can always log in and delete their account, but I suspect most accounts without subscriptions are really mistakes of one kind or another, and that no one will bother to delete them. Especially those that have NC status.

Agreed.? This may be an issue that should be revisited at some point.? I occasionally get subscription requests from people who have confirmed but who do not meet the criteria for group membership.? Once they are rejected they are essentially "orphans".? I will try to do a better job of advising them to delete their account, assuming that they are not members of other GIO groups.? Otherwise, their unattended account will pose a potential security risk.

Thanks,

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Gary,

Is there a way to grant read access to members of group W22 without
adding them to the AC group?

No. I don't think there's ever a way to make a File available to someone who isn't a member of the (sub)group that holds the file.

If those files contain primarily text (that is, if you could create them as an email message) you could store their content as Member Notices (of type "Note to member") in the primary group. Only moderators of the group have access to the notices, and can select individual member(s) from the group's Members list and send a note at need.

"Several dozen" might make the drop-list from which the moderator selects the file to send a bit ungainly, but you might try this technique for the most commonly used files.

Shal


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Medel,

The event reminder was sent 6:59am of Nov. 22. The reminder was set
to kick off at 1 minute before - i.e. 11:59pm of Nov 21.

The seven hour offset suggests a time-zone issue.

I'm not entirely certain if All-Day events work differently with respect to time zone, but you should take a look into the event (edit it from the calendar page) and compare its Time Zone setting to that listed on your Account's Preferences page.

Each event has a time zone (which ought to be set according to the location of the event, but defaults to the time zone of the member that created the event). Each member's account also has a time zone. Event notices and reminders are normally adjusted according the time zone of the receiving member.

Shal


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Charlie,

What happens to Groups.io accounts that never become subscribed to any
groups? Are they ever purged from the system?

I don't believe so.

Possibly someday they'll accumulate to the point where Mark feels inclined to purge them, but I don't recall him mentioning anything like that so far.

The owner of the account can always log in and delete their account, but I suspect most accounts without subscriptions are really mistakes of one kind or another, and that no one will bother to delete them. Especially those that have NC status.

Shal


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Help!! I may be not finding it - but how, how can the map be turned off in Databases, or at least force the default view to List?
I run groups that absolutely do not need the Map option, and it's causing nothing but confusion with it defaulting to that view when opening a database. We do have times when we need to collect postal addresses to mail kits, etc. - but no need for the default map appearing.

Help?? Please?
Ginny T

Thank you.

The event reminder was sent 6:59am? of Nov. 22.? The reminder was set to kick off at 1 minute before - i.e. 11:59pm of Nov 21.

What could account for the delay?

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We are a prison ministry and new to groups.io.? We have established a hierarchy of sub-groups within our main group.

All - everyone who has ever participated in the ministry
AC - Members of the Advisory Council (they are the leaders of the ministry) - they are members of the All group
W22 - members of ministry team #22 - they are members of the All group; some may also be members of AC subgroup.

We have several dozen files owned by the AC sub-group.? We store these parent files and send copies to selected individuals as necessary.? Is there a way to grant read access to members of group W22 without adding them to the AC group?? If so, how do I do it?

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Shane,

I wrote a long tome on ideas for this but the File Upload dialog has "Notify Members" option - so you can just upload the file and everyone gets a message with a link to the file (as I recall).? One manual step once you have the file.? A script to generate the file on schedule might be helpful but there's no way to automatically do the upload.

What happens to Groups.io accounts that never become subscribed to any groups? Are they ever purged from the system?

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Very easily Go to your members list Click on the arrow by members Now click on Ban Then put a check mark on the member you want to unban Then below there will be another arrow, click?on where it says actions?and click unban ? Ilene ? ? ? ? ?

Shal,

To clarify, you author the document as a docx, copy/paste the content to a

message that you send to the group, and > then upload the docx to the
group's Files section. Have I got the right mental picture?
Yes. That is correct.

Why would a member find it easier to troll the File section than the

Messages section?
I don't actually know, this is still in development the files section so it
may not even hit the final product.

That's not really rhetorical, I'm trying to understand the use case.

I haven't fully decided if I'm gonna leave the files section apart of this
thing or not.

Oh, and speaking of PDF, I always recommend that over doc or docx for

sharing content with others - unless it is a > > close community and you
know they have the tools for dealing with doc or docx. PDF also has the
advantage that most > browsers can open the file directly, rather than
requiring a download.
It's a thought, the format of the file doesn't matter. If I don't bother
with the upload, I may just switch to PDF storage of the content before
creating the message.
The goal is to at least automate the message sending based on information
stored in a file, or in a database because that info is updated throughout a
period, say daily, and at the end of the period it needs to be dumped to the
list.
I'm not against other ideas for this project.

Shane,

This information normally comes in the form of a docx file that after
sending in the body of an e-mail is uploaded to the files section of
the site for retrieval later ...

To clarify, you author the document as a docx, copy/paste the content to a message that you send to the group, and then upload the docx to the group's Files section. Have I got the right mental picture?

... if a member doesn’t feel like trolling the archive.

Why would a member find it easier to troll the File section than the Messages section?

That's not really rhetorical, I'm trying to understand the use case.

I know that the two sections have different organizing principles - with Files you can organize them into folders. With messages you can hashtag them for quick access. Both sections are searchable (though I haven't tested whether File search can find content inside a docx file, it seems to be able to read PDF so there's a chance).

Oh, and speaking of PDF, I always recommend that over doc or docx for sharing content with others - unless it is a close community and you know they have the tools for dealing with doc or docx. PDF also has the advantage that most browsers can open the file directly, rather than requiring a download.

I’m suspecting at least the uploading may have to be done manually,
but if not, I’m all for it.

Groups.io has an API, but I've never looked into using it. I don't know if it will help you or not.

I was thinking a receive only aliase could receive the text from a
script and fire it off.

Fire it off to an integration address for the group. Yes, that should work.

Or if you mean that the script would deliver the content directly to the integration address, I guess that would be possible depending on your toolkit's support for SMTP transactions. I know Mark has been working on upgrades to the authentication of inbound group postings, but I don't know if or how that might apply to integration addresses (as opposed to the group's posting address).

I know the changes that mark uploads weekly have to be automated, lol.

Hmm... I wonder. I've always imagined that he manually curates that, reading from something maintained by his dev tools.

Shal


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