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Re: Turn off Database Map or default to List #database

 

I don't have a premium group to test this.? According to a changelog, , there's supposed to be a button to toggle between map and list.? I don't know if it would be sticky or require use each time.? To the best of my knowledge, you can't use maps on a free group, .

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Re: UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

 

Gerald,

The actual functionality appears to be is as follows. ...

1. Delete existing file
I don't see this one.

2. Browse to and upload a new file
The intent is that you'd browse to and upload a revised copy of the original file. Hence "Update".

3. Change the filename text to match the newly selected and uploaded file
Only if the name needs correction.

4. Comments are not changed unless the user manually changes them
Ditto.

Yes, you could misuse the feature to replace the file with a completely different one, but if that were your intent then the more straightforward way would be to use "Delete" and "Upload File".

Shal


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Re: UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 07:21 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I think the word "edit" is more the problem. Also, you can use that dialog to replace the content, not just the properties.

How about "Update File"?


Feel free to chime in you have other ideas to clarify this function.
I missed that uploading a new file was included. Now that I see what is really going on, I'd suggest maybe "Replace file" since I can select any file to replace the one that was there. However, I suspect that no matter what wording is used, it will still be confusing?for users to figure out what functionality is included.

The actual functionality appears to be is as follows. I don't think this is intuitive.

1. Delete existing file
2. Browse to and upload a new file
3. Change the filename text to match the newly selected and uploaded file
4. Comments are not changed unless the user manually changes them

I'd rather see "Edit" just be used to change the "properties" - filename and comments. Delete and Upload already exist and are intuitive.

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Re: UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

 

Gerald,

Perhaps it would have been less confusing if the term used was "Edit
Properties" rather than "Edit file".
I think the word "edit" is more the problem. Also, you can use that dialog to replace the content, not just the properties.

How about "Update File"?


Feel free to chime in you have other ideas to clarify this function.

Shal


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Re: UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 05:35 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
So my question is: Why doesn't the 'edit' button next to a file not allow one to update the file? The file
in question in this instance was a MS .docx file.?

But, since perhaps I am overlooking something that's part of the process of an editing a file, any suggestions
or explanation for how to do so from the files page accessed from a Group.io's sidebar button would be very
much appreciated.

Regards,

Paul M.
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?Paul,

"Edit" only refers to changing the filename and description.

To edit the contents of the file, you will need to download the file and update it with an application program that is compatible with the contents of the file. For your example, you would need to use a program such as Microsoft Word.

Perhaps it would have been less confusing if the term used was "Edit Properties" rather than "Edit file".
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Re: UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

 

I¡¯m a Mac and Safari user too, that is not the problem.

The problem is that the ¡®replace¡¯ icon is misidentified as as ¡®edit¡¯ icon which implies the current files is edited in place.


I had a problem today while trying to edit an item in the 'Files' section of my IO Group.

There are icons there for editing, moving, deleting, and reporting each file in that section.

I needed to update a particular file but clicking on 'edit' next to the file only opens a card
showing the following:

a] A blank field with a 'BROWSE' button (but that take me to my Mac's Finder list.
b] a field containng the 'FILE NME'
c] a field containing the 'DESCRIPTION;
d] at the bottom, two buttons: 'CANCEL' and 'UPDATE' ¨Cboth of which took me back to the files list!

I could click on the name of any file in the list but that only downloaded the file to my (MacBook Pro)
desktop 'as is' which isn't an update. (The same seems to be the case for all the other things in my file
list: Those buttons don't seem to work; I can only click on a file's title and download it.)

So my question is: Why doesn't the 'edit' button next to a file not allow one to update the file? The file
in question in this instance was a MS .docx file. Or could it be a problem with Safari (vers. 11.0.3)? And,
BTW, pausing AdBlock doesn't help here, as doing so at times does.

But, since perhaps I am overlooking something that's part of the process of an editing a file, any suggestions
or explanation for how to do so from the files page accessed from a Group.io's sidebar button would be very
much appreciated.


UNABLE TO EDIT FILES ON THE IO FILE PAGE #howto

 

Hello All...

I had a problem today while trying to edit an item in the 'Files' section of my IO Group.

There are icons there for editing, moving, deleting, and reporting each file in that section.

I needed to update a particular file but clicking on 'edit' next to the file only opens a card
showing the following:

a] A blank field with a 'BROWSE' button (but that take me to my Mac's Finder list.
b] a field containng the 'FILE NME'
c] a field containing the 'DESCRIPTION;
d] at the bottom, two buttons: 'CANCEL' and 'UPDATE' ¨Cboth of which took me back to the files list!

I could click on the name of any file in the list but that only downloaded the file to my (MacBook Pro)
desktop 'as is' which isn't an update. (The same seems to be the case for all the other things in my file
list: Those buttons don't seem to work; I can only click on a file's title and download it.)

So my question is: Why doesn't the 'edit' button next to a file not allow one to update the file? The file
in question in this instance was a MS .docx file. Or could it be a problem with Safari (vers. 11.0.3)? And,
BTW, pausing AdBlock doesn't help here, as doing so at times does.

But, since perhaps I am overlooking something that's part of the process of an editing a file, any suggestions
or explanation for how to do so from the files page accessed from a Group.io's sidebar button would be very
much appreciated.

Regards,

Paul M.
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Re: Groups.io accounts not subscribed to any group

 

Charlie,

Otherwise, their unattended account will pose a potential security
risk.
How so? What's at risk?

I don't see much opportunity for mischief in an account that has no subscriptions. If the original person put sensitive information into their Profile that's about the only exposure I see, were the account taken over by a crook.

Shal


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Re: Calendar Reminder Not Being Sent

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:43 AM, Medel Guevarra wrote:
The event in question is an all day event.

I have two other events for that day which are also all-day event and their reminders were sent out correctly.
I suspect it's related to the very close timing of the reminder, but can't be sure.? Rather than use a reminder that close to the beginning of an all day event, maybe you could try using the "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens" option.? That appears to get posted just before the day starts.

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Re: Calendar Reminder Not Being Sent

 

Thank you for the response.

The timezone for both the calendar event and my account is set to Eastern Time (US).? The event in question is an all day event.

I have two other events for that day which are also all-day event and their reminders were sent out correctly.


Re: Groups.io accounts not subscribed to any group

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The owner of the account can always log in and delete their account, but I suspect most accounts without subscriptions are really mistakes of one kind or another, and that no one will bother to delete them. Especially those that have NC status.
Agreed.? This may be an issue that should be revisited at some point.? I occasionally get subscription requests from people who have confirmed but who do not meet the criteria for group membership.? Once they are rejected they are essentially "orphans".? I will try to do a better job of advising them to delete their account, assuming that they are not members of other GIO groups.? Otherwise, their unattended account will pose a potential security risk.

Thanks,

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Re: Looking for help with file access #files #folders

 

Gary,

Is there a way to grant read access to members of group W22 without
adding them to the AC group?
No. I don't think there's ever a way to make a File available to someone who isn't a member of the (sub)group that holds the file.

If those files contain primarily text (that is, if you could create them as an email message) you could store their content as Member Notices (of type "Note to member") in the primary group. Only moderators of the group have access to the notices, and can select individual member(s) from the group's Members list and send a note at need.

"Several dozen" might make the drop-list from which the moderator selects the file to send a bit ungainly, but you might try this technique for the most commonly used files.

Shal


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Re: Calendar Reminder Not Being Sent

 

Medel,

The event reminder was sent 6:59am of Nov. 22. The reminder was set
to kick off at 1 minute before - i.e. 11:59pm of Nov 21.
The seven hour offset suggests a time-zone issue.

I'm not entirely certain if All-Day events work differently with respect to time zone, but you should take a look into the event (edit it from the calendar page) and compare its Time Zone setting to that listed on your Account's Preferences page.

Each event has a time zone (which ought to be set according to the location of the event, but defaults to the time zone of the member that created the event). Each member's account also has a time zone. Event notices and reminders are normally adjusted according the time zone of the receiving member.

Shal


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Re: Groups.io accounts not subscribed to any group

 

Charlie,

What happens to Groups.io accounts that never become subscribed to any
groups? Are they ever purged from the system?
I don't believe so.

Possibly someday they'll accumulate to the point where Mark feels inclined to purge them, but I don't recall him mentioning anything like that so far.

The owner of the account can always log in and delete their account, but I suspect most accounts without subscriptions are really mistakes of one kind or another, and that no one will bother to delete them. Especially those that have NC status.

Shal


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Turn off Database Map or default to List #database

 

Help!! I may be not finding it - but how, how can the map be turned off in Databases, or at least force the default view to List?
I run groups that absolutely do not need the Map option, and it's causing nothing but confusion with it defaulting to that view when opening a database. We do have times when we need to collect postal addresses to mail kits, etc. - but no need for the default map appearing.

Help?? Please?
Ginny T


Re: Calendar Reminder Not Being Sent

 

Thank you.

The event reminder was sent 6:59am? of Nov. 22.? The reminder was set to kick off at 1 minute before - i.e. 11:59pm of Nov 21.

What could account for the delay?


Re: question about banning members.

 

Chris,


I was wondering, once I ban him, will the ban just work for his email, or will that work for his IP?
Email only.

IP addresses are often shared among multiple users (a household, a library, a company, etc.). Also a user can be at different IP addresses at different times (Home, Work, Library) even from the same device and location.

?
I really don¡¯t want this member back on any of the lists.

There's not much you can do apart from being vigilant. A person can obtain a new email address and/or IP address relatively easily.
Shal


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Looking for help with file access #files #folders

Gary Clark
 

We are a prison ministry and new to groups.io.? We have established a hierarchy of sub-groups within our main group.

All - everyone who has ever participated in the ministry
AC - Members of the Advisory Council (they are the leaders of the ministry) - they are members of the All group
W22 - members of ministry team #22 - they are members of the All group; some may also be members of AC subgroup.

We have several dozen files owned by the AC sub-group.? We store these parent files and send copies to selected individuals as necessary.? Is there a way to grant read access to members of group W22 without adding them to the AC group?? If so, how do I do it?


question about banning members.

Chris Judd
 

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I just had to ban a member from a few lists that I run.
I was wondering, once I ban him, will the ban just work for his email, or will that work for his IP?
I really don¡¯t want this member back on any of the lists.
Thanks,
Chris


Re: so I've got a strange question about intigrations.

 

Shane,

I wrote a long tome on ideas for this but the File Upload dialog has "Notify Members" option - so you can just upload the file and everyone gets a message with a link to the file (as I recall).? One manual step once you have the file.? A script to generate the file on schedule might be helpful but there's no way to automatically do the upload.

Toby