Janice,

I could not locate an emailed photos album. ... I looked in my
photo albums and it is not listed there alphabetically.

It should be listed as the very first album, not alphabetically (or by date) with the rest.

If it truly isn't there despite having some emailed photos in your messages that's probably a bug that should be reported to [email protected]

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Al,

Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins)

That's an obsolete format for including a comment with an address (rfc5322 section 3.4).

Now, Groups IO has a much more stringent protocol in how it accepts
email addresses in the direct add feature. Please read the syntax
prior to submitting.

"Alan Robbins" <Alan1057@...>

That's the current standard for including a display-name with an address (same RFC & section). The double-quotes are optional if the display-name does not contain certain punctuation marks ( ) < > [ ] : ; @ \ , . or "
The angle brackets are optional if there is no display-name.

So, if you are only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from
mailman, you will need to manually edit that file so only the email
address is on the line or if you want to include the name it needs to
be as Mark has indicated on that direct add page.

I would probably use Excel or the search-and-replace capability of my preferred programmer's text editor (Epsilon) to reformat the file, rather than a completely manual process.

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adam,

Looks like importing a mbox file for archives is strictly a "support"
process :(

True, but strictly speaking so is a Yahoo Group transfer. Most of it is automated but there is still a manual step or two for the transfer agent (support) in there.

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On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Ronald Vargo wrote:

I see in the member integrations that there is Google Drive, any plans for OneDrive integration?

The official "suggestion box" for groups.io is the beta group. Searching on OneDrive, you'll only get a couple of hits, so it's probably not on Mark's radar. See??

The existing Google drive integration uploads any message attachments that come through the group to your Google drive. And that's all it does. Not particularly useful, IMO.

If you want to share the contents of a Google drive with your group, you have to make it public and post a hyperlink to it somewhere, typically on the home page or (if you want to try to restrict it to group members) a wiki page. I assume something similar could be done with OneDrive. See /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/14789664#6125?for more details.
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 08:25 AM, Emre Brookes wrote:

This would be a really nice feature to have via user upload of an mbox file.
I have a bunch of mailing lists I was considering transferring...
if I have to wait months (years?) to get my archives loaded, that is my first gripe with groups.io.

To put this in perspective, at this time there is no user function to restore a group's message archive from its *own* backup, let alone a third-party one.

There have been quite a few requests for an Mailbox transfer here in GMF. We've always diverted them towards support for help, and there never seems to be any follow-up. Has anyone actually done it, or is this mbox import thing just an urban legend?

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Adam & Shal,

Having recently moved 3 mailman groups to Groups IO via the direct add route, let me just offer the following as a helpful hint.
When one exports an address list in mailman if someone has a name associate with it gets appended to the end of the address enclosed in parenthesis. For instance my address with name looked like this:
Alan1057@... (Alan Robbins)
Now, Groups IO has a much more stringent protocol in how it accepts email addresses in the direct add feature. Please read the syntax prior to submitting. Mass subscribe option in mailman would accept the above example of my address, Groups IO will not.
So, if you are only going to subscribe email addresses extracted from mailman, you will need to manually edit that file so only the email address is on the line or if you want to include the name it needs to be as Mark has indicated on that direct add page.
The first list I submitted from mailman contained about 360 names and only 181 get added. The 181 was the addresses that folks had not associated a name in mailman with their address. Maybe there is some type email address stripper program that will only extract from your mailman the email addresses. If your group is small, manually editing is no big deal, but if it is large, it can be quite a task. Anyway just thought I'd pass on my experience

Best,
Al

Shal Farley wrote:

adam,

Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the
best way to do it.

From what I've read it can or has been done, and contacting support is the best way. Though you may end up in a queue with all of the Y!Group transfers.

I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things
easier.

That would be essential as I understand it. As would getting the message archive into an mbox format file, if you want to import the history of your group.

If you're not looking to import the list's message archive you can DIY the transfer by using Direct Add, pasting in the list of addresses. Upgrade to the "group transfer plan", which is one month of premium (non-renewing) for $10. Or you can use the Invite feature for free.

Shal

Looks like importing a mbox file for archives is strictly a "support" process :(

/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/import_group_from_mailman/18690003?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,200,18690003

This would be a really nice feature to have via user upload of an mbox file.
I have a bunch of mailing lists I was considering transferring...
if I have to wait months (years?) to get my archives loaded, that is my first gripe with groups.io.

-Emre

adam,

Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the
best way to do it.

From what I've read it can or has been done, and contacting support is the best way. Though you may end up in a queue with all of the Y!Group transfers.

I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things
easier.

That would be essential as I understand it. As would getting the message archive into an mbox format file, if you want to import the history of your group.

If you're not looking to import the list's message archive you can DIY the transfer by using Direct Add, pasting in the list of addresses. Upgrade to the "group transfer plan", which is one month of premium (non-renewing) for $10. Or you can use the Invite feature for free.

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Hi all,
I sent a message to support a few days ago.
Wondering if anyone has migrated a list from mailman and if so the best way to do it.
I can get members addresses into a text file if that makes things easier.
TIA.

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Michael Pavan wrote:

"Approve and unmoderate sender”, the sender is not automatically subscribed.

I interpret this to mean that the sender’s message has been approved, and that all future messages from that sender will not be moderated - it has nothing to do with whether the sender is subscribed or not, and does not change their subscription status.

Well, that's not what happens, a further message from an unsubscribed sender is also moderated.

-e.

"Approve and unmoderate sender”, the sender is not automatically subscribed.

I interpret this to mean that the sender’s message has been approved, and that all future messages from that sender will not be moderated - it has nothing to do with whether the sender is subscribed or not, and does not change their subscription status.

Shal Farley wrote:

Emre,

So, when I receive a message from a non-subscriber (I have enabled
this in settings), and I click "Approve and unmoderate senders",
the sender is not automatically subscribed.


I think it may be a bug that you're shown that button on a non-subscriber. Maybe there should be a different button for "Approve and add to group" or something, but "unmoderate" is the wrong function there.

Is there any way to add an address that can't receive email and
allow them to post messages without moderation?

Yes, use an email Integration. See the Integrations page (in the Admin group of buttons, on the left in your group). See also the (somewhat scanty) help for integrations </static/help#integrations>.

The major downside is that a basic (free) group may only have 5 of them, but if you don't mind them arriving with the same display name then your repos could share an integration address.

Shal

Thanks Shal, that worked.
It was a bit tricky, until I discovered the from-address locks-in after the 1st message received.

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:43 PM, Frances wrote:

I see it would be helpful to have the other option - approve the
message and add to the group. Or Approve the message and add as
member.

In most cases, I believe we shouldn't allow creating accounts at email addresses that we haven't confirmed are capable of receiving a group email. It seems like a back door to Direct Add, something most people have to pay for.

Just my opinion,
Bruce

Maybe only with a paid subscription, but it could be a nice addition.

On 8/13/2018 6:49 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Embedded images are resized to a maximum of 640px in the longest
dimension (ref: ), no matter
what your group settings are.?What intrigues me more, is whether in this
case they have been stored in the group archive, or simply forwarded. If
so, it sounds like to truly keep Subscribers from using up any group
space you may also have to set Message Formatting to Plain Text Only.

If the OP can check her Emailed Photos folder to see if the offending
images are there, I think this would be a good thing to capture for
future reference.

Regards,
Bruce

Yes, I'd be interested to see if (1) they're in the Emailed Photos album
and (2) have been correctly resized.

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:42 PM, psb b wrote:

How do I move emailed photos from album titled

Emailed Photos

to an album titled

Mrs. Smiths' Photos?

The Emailed Photos folder is not like other albums...it's a repository for message attachments. As you've discovered, you cannot directly move these photos to another album, like you can with photos that have been uploaded. If you did, it would no longer be linked to the corresponding message.

So what can you do? Well, you can download the photo and subsequently upload it to another album. But the photo attributes (who "owns" it, when it originated, etc) will reflect the person who made these changes, not the person who originally posted it. Fortunately, you can reassign the photo back to "Mrs Smith,"* but it's another step in a multi-step process.

Such activity is also a copy, not a move; duplicating the amount of storage the photo takes up in your allocation. If you choose to delete the original, this is considered a message edit; and "Mrs Smith" will be notified that someone else has been messing around with her post. Her post will also subsequently display the "edited" badge in the message archive.

Bottom line:? It can certainly be done, but it's pretty cumbersome, and it has impacts that most folks do not anticipate.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

*This capability was only recently added to groups.io.
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How do I move emailed photos from album titled

Emailed Photos

to an album titled

Mrs. Smiths' Photos?

Thank you!

p.s. ?I tried "search"ing for this topic but got bogged down with all kinds of other threads. ?Hope you don't mind me asking....eeek....

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:43 PM, Frances wrote:

I see it would be helpful to have the other option - approve the message and add to the group. Or Approve the message and add as member.

In most cases, I believe we shouldn't allow creating accounts at email addresses that we haven't confirmed are capable of receiving a group email. It seems like a back door to Direct Add, something most people have to pay for.

Just my opinion,
Bruce?
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