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Re: Insert or swap rows in a database table
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I forgot to give an example for adding a new row that will appear on top of the table. Here's what you nerd to do. Suppose the existing topmost sorted record (based on the value in the column that was added to the row with the name SortValue) has the value 010a. Then for the new added row, use the value of 005a, 005k, or 006w.
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Now when you sort the table based on the SortValue column values, even though the new row added is physically the last bottom row in the table, the last row added will appear as the first row in the table.
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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account
Darlene,
If it helps any, this is how I perform the same testing scenario as what you're trying to do: 1. I use my default web browser (Firefox) and which I have already logged into GIO with my admin email account, and since it remembers it, I don't have to log-in again, so anytime I click some GIO link in some email, it goes to this browser. (this is important to remember as you'll see later on) 2. I do whatever admin work needs to be done to whatever group. 3. Then I want to test how the subscription process works (or any other GIO functionality for that matter, where I want to see how things look/work from a regular/different user's POV), I create a test email account somewhere, and from that email, I send the subscribe request. 4. I then open a different browser, Chrome in my case, the test browser, which I will use to test the links the subscriber will get, as you can have a different email address logged into GIO from different browsers and can use them simultaneously without interfering with each other, at least with Firefox and Chrome, I have not tested it with Edge, but it seems per your experience Edge should work the same. 5. This is an important step, while I try to remember to always log off GIO from the test browser when I'm done testing, in order to ensure that I didn't forget logging off from a previous testing session, I first go to on the test browser, and if I get the login screen then great, if not, I log off; otherwise my testing wouldn't work! 6. I then proceed to look at the GIO-generated emails on the test account and check/do whatever I'm testing at the time. 7. Here's the trick though, I do not click on any URL link on any GIO subscription (or otherwise) test email message I get on the testing email address, because this will open that link in my default browser, not on my test browser, hence I would see (in my default browser) that same link I clicked on from my admin's account perspective, not from the test user's perspective on the test browser. So I instead copy the link text from the email, paste it into Notepad first (which will paste the link as plain text, strip any underlying URL code, re-copy it from there, then go to the test browser and paste it there.? I will now see on the test browser the same screen the test user would see if they clicked on that link on their computer. (I suspect this part is what you're not doing quite right) 8. I can then proceed and do whatever from-the-subscriber's-perspective testing I want to do, on the test browser exclusively.? If I need to go and change something on the group and retest, I do that from the default browser where I'm logged in as admin, but everything else related to what the user/subscriber will see/get, is done in the test browser. 9. When finished testing, I log off from the test browser, and close it, and I'm done. Never had a problem this way. Cheers, Christos |
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Re: Settings for digest options
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 01:23 PM, David Grimm wrote:
But I still don't understand why a group NEEDS to have the ability to NOT let me choose the format for a digest I'm going to read. I LIKE not having live links in my digests, and if a subscriber has trouble with getting his/her preferred format of digest, the group owner should be able to steer them in the right direction.David -- The setting here affects individual emails more than digests. There are two checkboxes...one for "Force HTML emails" and another for "Plain Text only." If you don't select one or the other, then an incoming plain-text message will be forwarded with a plain-text footer appended, and an incoming html email will be forwarded with an html footer. Such behavior tends to cause confusion, so it's entirely sensible to select one or the other.* Groups are not a democracy, and the group Owner has the final say on matters of this nature.? Regards, Bruce *These two boxes are mutually incompatible and I don't know what happens if you happen to check both of them. |
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Re: Insert or swap rows in a database table
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What you can do is to create an additional column (call it SortValue) and enter a value for each row in the order you wish to have thr rows sorted.??
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The values that you enter will be dependent on the number of rows you expect to be imbedded between existing two rows on order for the new rows to be sorted between the two existing rows.
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To begin with, you may want to enter a value of 010a for the row you want to be on top of the table.? Then the next row you want to appear underneath the row for 010a, you will enter 020a, and continue with your remaining rows in such a way that when you sort in the column SortValue, the rows will appear in the way you want to be arranged.??
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For future subsequent row additions,? just an appropriate value for the column SortValue.
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For example, if you need to add a row that need to be between a row that has a value of 030a and 040a, you can use 035a, 030m,? 031z,? or 032v.?
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Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"
I don't understand why Groups.io mis-refers to groups by their by the group's posting email address rather than the group's URL. I believe in past discussion it has been stated that 'that's just how it is'. I would suggest saying: the group GROUPNAME.groups.io Yes, GROUPNAME.groups.io is an alias for /g/GROUPNAME but GROUPNAME.groups.io works and is more intuitive and memorable. BTW, Groups.io is also clickable. If GROUPNAME.groups.io or /g/GROUPNAME was stated, then clicking on it would take one to the group's Home page. |
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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account
On 15/01/2020 17:39, Darlene Dimitrie via Groups.Io wrote:
2. By "when I click that", I thought I meant that on the homepage for my group, down near the bottom, under GROUP EMAIL ADDRESSES, then Subscribe:, there is a link called "main+subscribe@... <mailto:main+subscribe@...>" which brings up your default email client.I confirm that for me, too, clicking that link brings up my default mail client and opens a new message that that address in the TO. I have tested a number of browsers (Vivaldi, Otter, Firefox), and the "Log out" link in the top right corner always successfully logs me out, and then I have to actually log in again if I want to be logged in. Samuel |
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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:25 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:
I use MS Edge, so I tried Internet Explorer and Chrome, same results.A lot of the newer browsers/devices insist on remembering your login information so they can automatically log you in when you go to a site.? Sometimes you have to dig, but can (always?) find a way to turn it off. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Reply to sender on some posts ?
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 07:18 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
And yet more have a slightly different but plainer footer, is that from the sender using plain text ?Probably.? There's a pretty good explanation of footers at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Footers? Also see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69697470 Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Reply to sender on some posts ?
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 08:18 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:
Not a huge concern but in the footer, why do some posts have reply to Group and some have Reply to Group *&* Reply to Sender ?If you check the "Remove Other Reply Options" box, "Reply to Sender" will not appear in the footer. Bruce |
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Reply to sender on some posts ?
Not a huge concern but in the footer, why do some posts have reply to Group and some have Reply to Group *&* Reply to Sender ?
Its not the groups settings as they are all reply to group And yet more have a slightly different but plainer footer, is that from the sender using plain text ? -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) |
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Email text width setting in email browsers from Genealogy groups. #email #email settings
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When a group owner sets posts on their group, is there a text width setting as most emails come to my iMac with half the screen wasted and excessive scrolling required to reach the bottom of a Digest email?
Changes to my email browser does not fix this, so I assume it comes from the page width and text length settings somewhere else.? I include a sample. Regards, John |
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Re: Help, one of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe"
On 14/01/2020 08:58, Samuel Murray wrote:
On 14/01/2020 08:07, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:Actually, I just thought of another way this might have happened, which is due to a design flaw in GIO itself.One of my new groups is getting tons of "Re: reply to subscribe" messages. But they are not subbed! If I approve the message, it seems to appear as a message. :( However, some seem properly subbed, as I can click on their email and see that.[My guess is that the] original sender of the "reply to subscribe" message did not realise that he needs to press REPLY in his mail program in order to confirm his subscription, so he did what some e-mail users nowadays do: he created a *new* e-mail and addressed it to what he considered the originator of the mail that he's When someone tries to subscribe via e-mail, they get a message from GIO saying the following: ------------------------------------------------------ Thank you for your interest in Groups.io and the group [email protected]. To complete your subscription, please reply to this email. ------------------------------------------------------ If "[email protected]" is a hyperlink (or if one's e-mail program turns it into a hyperlink), then that address is the only thing in the entire message that is clickable (except the footer). He might either click it because he is used to clicking an e-mail link to start up an e-mail. Alternatively, he might click it because clicking a link is a very common action during two-step subscription of online services. In fact, when I personally subscribe to anything online that uses two-step subscription, I don't actually **read** the mail I receive, but simply glance at the message and then click the most prominent link. I suspect many people do that. Samuel |
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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account
On 15/01/2020 00:15, Darlene Dimitrie via Groups.Io wrote:
Right now I'm a trying to subscribe via email using <list-name>[email protected]What do you mean "when I click that"? What do you click? When I do a test by trying to subscribe by sending an e-mail to [email protected], the test user gets an e-mail telling him to "complete" his subscription by replying to the message, but there is no link in that e-mail that one can click (except for the e-mail address itself, but that is because my e-mail program automatically changes e-mail addresses into links). On some other mailing list systems that I have seen, the reply sent in request to a "subscribe" or "join" e-mail also contains a unique link that one can click in order to confirm one's subscription (and one's e-mail address), but the IO reply does not have that, unfortunately. Samuel |
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Re: Testing Ways to Subscribe - Can't stop GIO from logging me into my own account
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 07:44 PM, Darlene Dimitrie wrote:
I'm using a different email address.? That's the odd part.If you have that address set up as an email alias for the existing account, that might explain the observed behavior. Bruce |
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