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I had a similar issue, and what I did is to make sure my "address B" was a member of all of the same groups as "address A". Then I signed into Address A and made Address B an owner of all of the groups. When that was all done, I simply deleted my "Address A" account. After it was deleted, I added Address A as an alias to my Address B account.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 01:27 PM, Mark Bardenwerper wrote:

I originally started and manually moved a group from Yahoo into a subgroup. I realized this might not be the best outcome for this group and would now like to make them an independent. I have not moved files or photos yet. What is the best, least obtrusive way to do this? Right now, there are 58 members.

Mark -- There is no way to move either data or subscribers into a new group. You will have to manually move people just like you did with this subgroup, and subsequently upload the files and photos.

The most convenient way to move the subscribers is via a Direct Add, but it will cost you $20 for a month of Premium. Probably not worth it for only 58 members.

Regards,
Bruce

Go to your main (top level) group and view the Directory. That should be all of the groups members. You may have been looking at subgroup member lists, which in turn may just be a subset of your members.

Derek

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 01:35 PM, Dave D. wrote:

Then just turn my main one to 'no email' for that list.

Dave -- That will work, if you need to have two email addresses. I maintain a second account for several of my groups, just for troubleshooting, so I can see what a regular Subscriber sees.

That said, maintaining multiple email addresses/accounts can be frustrating. It occasionally happens that you find yourself logged in under the "wrong" email address, and thus are unable to gain access to expected content. If you're sure you really want to do this, be on the lookout for that. You will run into it sooner or later.

Regards,
Bruce

The system allows me to send and receive on that second email since it was already considered a 'member' on the old list, without having an account. So I guess except for web access, I can do that. Then just turn my main one to 'no email' for that list.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 01:28 PM, Susan B wrote:

I am just tearing out my hair!!!! Sometimes I can see the whole membership list and sometimes, usually, all I can see are pending members!!! I have gone in circles time and again. I know if I get to a certain screen, and don’t know which one, I can click the category heading members and get the whole list. But right now I am stuck and out of time, and frustrated.

Susan -- The blue pull-down menu at upper left will let you toggle between member views. See attached screenshot.

Bruce

I am just tearing out my hair!!!! Sometimes I can see the whole membership list and sometimes, usually, all I can see are pending members!!! I have gone in circles time and again. I know if I get to a certain screen, and don’t know which one, I can click the category heading members and get the whole list. But right now I am stuck and out of time, and frustrated.

Could someone please tell me what to do? I go to the ADMIN heading on left and click to get a dropdown. It says members and gives me the number of pending members. Then I am stuck and can’t find the entire membership list. We have over 4000. I’m an owner.

Thank you.

Susan B

Hello,

I originally started and manually moved a group from Yahoo into a subgroup. I realized this might not be the best outcome for this group and would now like to make them an independent. I have not moved files or photos yet. What is the best, least obtrusive way to do this? Right now, there are 58 members.

Thanks,

--
Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
Technology...responsibly, thoughtfully


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Amazingly, the queue suddenly sped up, and my group was transferred less than 18 hours from sending my last update saying I was at #90 in the queue.? Hurrah!

Jeremy

Thanks, Duane.? I found the Welcome message and fixed it.? All is well now.
I found it under Admin / Settings / Member Notices.

Folks -- I haven't posted this in 7 days so I'm probably overdue to do so again. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.

Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.

Other resources:

Please note that the way you select an existing transfer for further processing has changed. It used to be a pull-down menu, it is now a list of links.

Regards,
Bruce

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Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days.?Do not do anything out of order.

The following instructions are for a full-width desktop/laptop display. This can all be done on mobile too, but it's a lot easier if you don't.

1.1 Create your groups.io group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation?(Note: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the?Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.)
1.2 To use the Easy Group Transfer,?you must upgrade the group to the?Premium Yearly?plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of?$220) and make your payment.?
(You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

2.1 Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
2.2 Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your groups.io group in their respective boxes. The groups.io group is conveniently selected from a pick-list of those groups that you own. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off[email protected] or @yahoogroups.co.uk),?just the group name.
2.3 Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
(You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

3.1 Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your groups.io group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]". If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
3.2 Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers at bottom right (click on its link). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it?should?say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."?If it?doesn't?say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 3.1 above and try again.?
(You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

4.1 BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is often?the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
4.2 BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do?not?send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
4.3 You will eventually?receive an email from groups.io stating?that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted, and providing you with further instructions.?Continue waiting until you receive this email.
(You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

5.1 Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record (sorting by join date is the easiest way) and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
5.2 Return to the groups.io page that you bookmarked in #0.4 above one more time. Once again, go to the "Existing Transfers" at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
(You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

6.1 BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right??(If you want to check status, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948).
6.2 You may notice some activity in your new groups.io group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process.?Do not panic.?This is what you wanted to happen!
6.3 When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from groups.io summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer.?Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
6.4 Rejoice.

Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:37 PM, <stedman@...> wrote:

Or, do they contain only the email address of the person receiving the invitation?

The concern you have stated in the subject line of this topic does not happen. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22518?for information on how the data you provide is parsed and inserted into each invitation.

I'm interested in inviting 130 people from a group hosted elsewhere to join here, but didn't want to inundate people with a list of 130 email addresses or reveal email addresses to others without their permission.

No worries...you can hit "Send Invitations" now. :-)

Bruce

Or, do they contain only the email address of the person receiving the invitation?

I'm interested in inviting 130 people from a group hosted elsewhere to join here, but didn't want to inundate people with a list of 130 email addresses or reveal email addresses to others without their permission.

So, how does this work? ?I have a long list of email addresses in the Invite Emails field, but do not want to hit "Send Invitations" until I know what happens!

Thanks for any help your can provide!

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:35 PM, Dave D. wrote:

So if email address A is attached to my actual account. But there's a member slot on the list with email address B (also mine). Couldn't I setup address B on an alias to post, and then the system would send me messages on the same, since it sees that as a member?

No. Groups.io does not send emails to alias addresses, because they do not go through the confirmation process.

Bruce

Thanks Bruce. So if email address A is attached to my actual account. But there's a member slot on the list with email address B (also mine). Couldn't I setup address B on an alias to post, and then the system would send me messages on the same, since it sees that as a member? I'm sure there's a down side to this, but I can't think of it. Obviously I wouldn't be able to do anything via web access, with that B address.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:50 AM, Dave D. wrote:

On one of the lists I transferred, I was already setup as owner here obviously, but it imported me as a 'member' from the other list as well, since I was using a different email address there. Is there any way I can import that profile into my account so I can utilize that different email address for that list, without having to create a separate account?

Dave -- If I understand you correctly, the answer is no.

Each email address is its own account. You can set up a secondary email address as an alias for posting purposes only, but all group emails will still be RECEIVED at the primary email address, and only the primary address can be used to log into groups.io.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 04:34 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam

Andrea; it is also worth noting that there is nothing "private" about that guidance. The wiki section on GMF is publicly visible so it might be worth including the URL in a message (Special Notice, even!) so that your members can read it for themselves. Given that "measures in mitigation" are under individual members' control rather than yours this might be the preferred option. You can even copy it into your own wiki if you want, but of course it won't be updated if the GMF original is edited. At the time of writing this it has been revised some 37 times. :)

Chris

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM, <bob@...> wrote:

I changed it yesterday in Settings as described in the guide for changing the group name.? Then today I tried adding member that was not currently registered with groups.io.? Everything seemed fine in that the new group name properly appeared in the e-mail address for the group and in the "confirm your e-mail" message to the new member.? But there is a problem with the "welcome to <newname>@groups.io" message the new member gets.? The new name does indeed appear in the subject line of the message, and the "from" address is also the new group name @groups.io.? But the content of that message contains all references to the original name of the group...etc.

Bob -- This is covered in the wiki entry (/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group) as the final bullet point under "Some Impacts of Renaming a Group." I suggest re-reading this page to ensure you have detected and remedied all such issues before proceeding further.

Renaming a group can create some big problems. Although it's nice to be able to if you really need it, prospective group owners should carefully decide what they want their group to be called from the outset, and not rely on this as a safety net.

Regards,
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:35 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:

How do I "enroll" these folks...

Eric -- Having paid for a year of Premium, the simplest way is to Direct Add them.

Go to Admin>Direct Add and enter each of their email addresses in the Emails block, one per line. Then click the "+Add Members" button.

...and what email address do they use? Is it as simple as "[email protected]"?

If you have no subgroups, yes, it is really that simple. The group email address also appears on your group home page (see "Group Email Addresses") and in the generic Welcome notice sent to each new subscriber.

Bruce