Noel,

a) provides no quoting context

That's true. It has been discussed in beta@ but is difficult given that various email user interfaces behave differently with mailto: links.

Some don't support a "body" parameter (which would be needed to provide a quote of the original), and even where that is supported it could only be the whole original message - or a predetermined snippet of it - there's no mechanism to tell Thunderbird (or any other email interface) to place selected text from the current message into the new message composition.

b) uses the wrong (default) persona for the reply

That is also true. The mailto: link functions as a "New Message" command, not a "Reply" command. So there is no context Thunderbird can use to apply the correct persona; the user must manually correct the "From" address in the message composition window.

The original user was replying to a digest so the option to reply
directly will not be available.

Correct.

The user's other option is to use the View/Reply Online link instead, and compose the reply using the group's web page rather than Thunderbird.

Shal

Jeff,

I have no messages nor members yet. I didn't mean to make the
messages private. DOH! If I delete the group, can I recreate it again
with the same name, or does that name get locked out or something
like that?

As the other replies have implied, the deleted group's name is permanently marked as "used".

The DIY approach to this would be to rename the group rather than delete it. Rename doesn't leave the old name reserved. Immediately create a new group under the old name. Then you can have both groups open side-by-side in two browser windows while you copy settings and other content from the renamed group to the new group. Except don't copy the Privacy setting... ;-)

If you decide to rename the group, I suggest picking a gibberish name that no one would ever want (e.g. mash your fingers on the keyboard a few times). After you have your new group settled you can delete the renamed one, or not, at your leisure.

If you're patient you can try J's suggestion: ask [email protected] to change the setting for you. Explain the circumstances and there's a good chance it will get done... in a few days (there may be a backlog at support right now).

I'd actually like it if you'd ask support to do this. Being able to do it on your own (under your circumstances) is on the Groups.io To-Do list, and maybe your request will prompt some progress on the feature:


Shal

Hi Jeff,

What about going to Settings for your group and changing Privacy settings?
I believe you can't re-use the same group name if you delete your group.
However, there is a message from Shal saying that you could ask Mark to free up the name. (I used the new search and it found it! Hurrah!)
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/1557

Frances

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I have no messages nor members yet.? I didn't mean to make the messages private.? DOH!? If I delete the group, can I recreate it again with the same name, or does that name get locked out or something like that?

The user has suggested a new message delivery option he would prefer, a form of digest where it only sends emails once a day or so (as with the digest), sorted by thread, but as individual emails not a single digest email.

Noel

The original user has experimented further:

> When reading a mail in the digest, below the mail is a list of links including 'reply to group' which shows a sensible link in the bottom margin but seems to result in no action (hence my request).? Having dug deeper if I make right click it gives a submenu including 'compose message to' which works but seems unable to include highlighted text (though copy paste is easy).? The similar 'reply to sender' works in the same way.?

The failure to include highlighted? text is as mentioned, but is having to right click to reply a bug?

Noel

Further input from another user:

> Further experiment shows that using the links on the email:
a) provides no quoting context
b) uses the wrong (default) persona for the reply

> So it is not worth using the links on the email - use Thunderbirds own reply method.

The original user was replying to a digest so the option to reply directly will not be available.

Noel

I use Thunderbird, and used the "Reply to Group" link to send this message.

Cacky

Taffman,

At the moment all messages appear to be set to Pacific Time. Is there
any way to select another time zone like GMT or UTC?

All messages where? As was noted in the beta@ thread, messages seen on the web site are controlled by each member's timezone setting.

In the message list of an email interface the timezone would likely be controlled by an option in that email user interface.

Shal

John,

... I've been trying find a "Join the Groups.io" page logo so we
could switch over. What I have right now doesn't look good.
Is there one setup for Groups.io?

In the Admin group of links on the left of your group's pages there is a Promote page. It has a tool to create HTML for a Signup form. Alas, it is rather plain looking (no groups.io logo), but I suppose that's an opportunity for the group to place its own logo instead.

Shal

One of our users has reported that he can't get any of the reply links in messages to work using Thunderbird. I can't see anything about this in the message archive, and several people seem to use Thunderbird, is anything known?

Noel

At the moment all messages appear to be set to Pacific Time. Is there any way to select another time zone like GMT or UTC?

I rather think that this is pretty spectacular and generous!
Ginny

Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


* Section in help listing all available email commands.

For the benefit of all your email-only members out there - these are mostly the subscription changes they can make without logging in to the site. It is at the bottom of the FAQ section, use the link in the left column of the help page to go directly there.

I think there are a few commands missing from that list, specifically to address the advanced subscription options.


* Custom search ranges in new search.
* Ability to exclude signatures from [new] search, and lowered their rankings in relevance searches.

I'm loving the new Tools button as an expander for a set of search result filters. I'd like to see that grow into a comprehensive collection of filters.

The metadata filters (date is the only example so far) I'd like to see in a similar Tools button for the full message lists (Messages, Topics, Expanded, Polls) and for other lists as well (Photos, Files, etc.).


* Out of Space group setting.

"What to do when the group is out of space." You have the choice of automatically deleting old attachments or bouncing new messages. I presume that refers only to messages with attachments, as otherwise messages don't count towards a group's storage limit.

I think it might be nice if there were a third setting: strip attachments - just like the Attachments option above it.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

* NEW: New search now has a 'did you mean' suggestion function.
* INTERNAL: Re-architected dumpmessages utility to be able to deal with messages and topics being deleted from under it.
* INTERNAL: More work on the API.
* CHANGE: Subgroup storage space no longer is deducted from the parent group's storage space.
* BUGFIX: Activity tab wasn't showing up for some moderators.
* CHANGE: Because Dropbox is discontinuing the V1 version of their API, which would require us to re-write our code, and because only a few people used it, removing the integration, at least for now.


Please call out any you find significant.

Shal