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Re: Duplicate Photos

 

To prevent duplicate photos being saved to the "Photos" section when replying to a posted message containing an image you are supposed to remove the image from your reply.
How do you do that?

Mick


Re: Duplicate Photos

 

Duane,

How do you remove the image when replying to posted message that has an image?
I cannot see any link to do it.

Mick


Re: Shopping for online group to replace club's current Yahoo groups #yahoo

 
Edited

Thanks for the clarification. It will help our club figure out how best to make any changes for a new online service Lots to consider?

Doug Caldwell
doug@...

[Message edited by Moderator to remove phone number]

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 6:19 PM Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:

Doug . . .

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 16:01:19 -0700, doug@... wrote:

>
>Reading FAQs and got lots of info.

>1. Is it correct we could import exiting Yahoo groups into this site to get started.?

>2. Can someone added by step 1 to this group opt out at anytime?

>3. As we collect more members/guest email address and add them to this group can they opt out if desired?

#1, yes, you can, if you pay for a premium group for one year.
Otherwise, you don't get to transfer the group messages, pictures,
etc. If you do it yourself, you will have to transfer everything
manually. I don't know how you could export/import your messages but I
know how to archive them using PG Offline. I just don't know how to
convert them to a useful format to upload into GIO. If you had done
this before February of this year, group transfers were free.

#2, yes, they can. In fact, some will do so, especially if they are
against the move. And some will ask that you don't transfer their
messages as it is their personal information. Most won't give you any
trouble and will just opt-out if they don't want to be part of the new
group.

#3, you won't be adding people against their will, will you? That
could get you into some trouble. I assume that you'd get their
permission and send out an invitation rather than do a direct add. I
believe you have to have a premium group anyway to do a direct add,
otherwise you only can invite people to join.

Donald


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Member can't send email; receives an "it isn't valid" message #email

 

One member of my group cannot send an email. She says that when she hits "reply all" she gets a message that "it isn't valid."

I checked her subscription, her email history, and everything seems fine.

What should I do next?

Thank you for all your help. I truly appreciate it.

Paula


Re: What happens to inactive GIO accounts

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 07:02 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
Could the person join someone's premium group just to do that,
assuming that the owner is willing to help?
Donald -- That's not a bad idea, but the old email address would have to be Direct Added to the group first. More straightforward, though, would be for Charlie to pay $10 for a month of Premium (perhaps with the aid of the subscriber) and simply edit the record that already exists in his Member List.

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: Your group [email protected]

 

Do you know how I can contact them? I am willing to pay for the tubes I shared accidentally.

Thanks for your help.




On Saturday, July 20, 2019 Shal Farley <[email protected]> wrote:

Karen,

> Why is my group being removed?

The message from Mark seems clear on the subject.

A DMCA takedown notice is a formal (legal) document that notifies
Groups.io that the site contains material that infringes the plaintif's
copyright.

Groups.io MUST take action when such a complaint is raised, or it risks
losing its safe-harbor under U.S. copyright law, which would make
Groups.io legally liable for the infringement.

> Why can't I fight it before they remove it?

U.S. copyright law (in particular the Digital Millennium Copyright Act,
"DMCA") does not allow that. The site owner must first remove the content.


You CAN fight the removal by filing a "Put-Back" notice. The basis of
your notice would have to be that you own the rights to the material or
that you have a proper license to use it.

So your option at this point would be to come to an agreement with the
plaintiff to obtain the right to use their material. Then you can file
the Put-Back notice.

> If you read my footer, I agreed to pay anyone if I accidentally sent a
> CDO tube.? I am not sure why I am being removed.

The law does not allow Mark to take your word for it, nor does it allow
him to leave the material in place while you work it out with the plaintiff.

Shal


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Re: Your group [email protected]

 

Karen,

Why is my group being removed?
The message from Mark seems clear on the subject.

A DMCA takedown notice is a formal (legal) document that notifies Groups.io that the site contains material that infringes the plaintif's copyright.

Groups.io MUST take action when such a complaint is raised, or it risks losing its safe-harbor under U.S. copyright law, which would make Groups.io legally liable for the infringement.

Why can't I fight it before they remove it?
U.S. copyright law (in particular the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, "DMCA") does not allow that. The site owner must first remove the content.


You CAN fight the removal by filing a "Put-Back" notice. The basis of your notice would have to be that you own the rights to the material or that you have a proper license to use it.

So your option at this point would be to come to an agreement with the plaintiff to obtain the right to use their material. Then you can file the Put-Back notice.

If you read my footer, I agreed to pay anyone if I accidentally sent a
CDO tube. I am not sure why I am being removed.
The law does not allow Mark to take your word for it, nor does it allow him to leave the material in place while you work it out with the plaintiff.

Shal


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Re: Shopping for online group to replace club's current Yahoo groups #yahoo

 

Doug,

1. Is it correct we could import exiting Yahoo groups into this site
to get started.
Yes. You can simply start a group here and invite your former YG members to join it. You would have to re-upload any other content that you wish to copy from your YG.

Or (for a fee) you can use the Easy Group Transfer. See:
/static/transfer
and GMF's notes:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Note that the Easy Group Transfer doesn't actually create the new group for you - you set up your Groups.io group first and then start the transfer when you're ready.

2. Can someone added by step 1 to this group opt out at anytime?
Yes.

They'll receive a notification during the transfer, and the notice will have an opt-out link.

3. As we collect more members/guest email address and add them to
this group can they opt out if desired?
Members can unsubscribe at any time, by email or by web.

If yours is a Basic (free) Groups.io group you can only Invite people to join. To Direct Add them you must upgrade to a Premium group.
/static/pricing

Someone said today "You use Yahoo Groups, that's so 1980s", I said
maybe more like '1990s'.
Heh. Yup, that's why Groups.io exists.


Shal


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Re: Shopping for online group to replace club's current Yahoo groups #yahoo

 

Doug . . .

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 16:01:19 -0700, doug@... wrote:


Reading FAQs and got lots of info.
1. Is it correct we could import exiting Yahoo groups into this site to get started.
2. Can someone added by step 1 to this group opt out at anytime?
3. As we collect more members/guest email address and add them to this group can they opt out if desired?
#1, yes, you can, if you pay for a premium group for one year.
Otherwise, you don't get to transfer the group messages, pictures,
etc. If you do it yourself, you will have to transfer everything
manually. I don't know how you could export/import your messages but I
know how to archive them using PG Offline. I just don't know how to
convert them to a useful format to upload into GIO. If you had done
this before February of this year, group transfers were free.

#2, yes, they can. In fact, some will do so, especially if they are
against the move. And some will ask that you don't transfer their
messages as it is their personal information. Most won't give you any
trouble and will just opt-out if they don't want to be part of the new
group.

#3, you won't be adding people against their will, will you? That
could get you into some trouble. I assume that you'd get their
permission and send out an invitation rather than do a direct add. I
believe you have to have a premium group anyway to do a direct add,
otherwise you only can invite people to join.

Donald


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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)


Re: Your group [email protected]

 

Karen . . .

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:45:30 +0000 (UTC), "Karen Rodriguez via
Groups.Io" <erotoo1@...> wrote:

If it is not marked 'PTU' or 'Do Not Share,' there is no way to know that it is a 'Pay To Use' item.
The best approach is to request permission first before sharing. It
might seem like too much trouble, but it can prevent issues like this
from happening.

That said, I know of many groups that copy/paste things from various
web sites and post them, or paste them into a document and put them in
the files section. They should request permission first even for
those, but they get away with it. While it's not videos, some of it is
copyrighted material and they might get takedown notices at some point
in the future, especially if the message archives are viewable by
non-members.

Donald


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group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
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/g/CatVet (just launched)


Re: What happens to inactive GIO accounts

 

Shal . . .

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:52:49 -0700, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...>
wrote:


As Bruce mentioned, the more useful question is whether he/she is
subscribed to one or more Premium groups. If so a premium group
owner/mod can change the email address for him/her. That will switch all
of his/her subscriptions to the new address.
Could the person join someone's premium group just to do that,
assuming that the owner is willing to help?

Or maybe Mark can change the address?

Donald


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Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion
group on Groups.io:
/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly)
**also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health:
/g/CatVet (just launched)


Shopping for online group to replace club's current Yahoo groups #yahoo

 

Reading FAQs and got lots of info.
  1. Is it correct we could import exiting Yahoo groups into this site to get started.?
  2. Can someone added by step 1 to this group opt out at anytime?
  3. As we collect more members/guest email address and add them to this group can they opt out if desired?
Someone said today "You use Yahoo Groups, that's so 1980s", I said maybe more like '1990s'. Just joined today.


Re: What happens to inactive GIO accounts

 

Charlie,

They no longer have access to their old email account, and they have
never signed in to the GIO website (and hence no saved authentication
cookie).
Nor a password to log in with, if they never set one up.

... is there any way they can change the email address associated
with their GIO account?
Not if they can't log in to Groups.io, nor receive any messages sent to the old address. To log in you need one or the other: a password in your Groups.io account or access to your email inbox.

Assume that at least one of the groups to which they are subscribed is
a free (non-premium) group.
As Bruce mentioned, the more useful question is whether he/she is subscribed to one or more Premium groups. If so a premium group owner/mod can change the email address for him/her. That will switch all of his/her subscriptions to the new address.

Shal


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Re: Your group [email protected]

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 03:49 PM, Karen Rodriguez wrote:
Why is my group being removed?
You need to read the site Terms of Service, as you should have before creating your group.? Specifically, the User Conduct section under Conditions of Use.
/static/tos

Duane
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Re: What happens to inactive GIO accounts

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 04:56 PM, Charlie McB wrote:
Other than resubscribing to their GIO group(s) with their new email address, is there any way they can change the email address associated with their GIO account?? Assume that at least one of the groups to which they are subscribed is a free (non-premium) group.
Account information cannot be changed without logging in. However, it is not necessary to have an active cookie. If the person has set an account password, (s)he should be able to log in even without access to his/her old email address. Just enter the old address and password in the login page (/login), followed by clicking on the blue "Change Email" button.

The better question to ask is whether the person involved IS subscribed to a Premium group. If so, a group Owner (or Moderator with the "Set Member Subscription Options" permission) should be able to edit the email address (see?/static/pricing).

As you might imagine, those who do own Premium groups must use this feature with discretion.

What happens to abandoned GIO accounts (not subscribed to any group)?? Are they removed after a certain period of inactivity?
I'm pretty sure that unused accounts just hang around in limbo, as there is no way for groups.io to tell objectively whether they are really defunct, or simply not subscribed to anything. Perhaps this very old message in beta will provide more insight (), but only Mark knows for sure.

Regards,
Bruce?
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What happens to inactive GIO accounts

 

I have a subscriber who changed email providers and then realized they had neglected to change the address associated with their GIO account.? They no longer have access to their old email account, and they have never signed in to the GIO website (and hence no saved authentication cookie).

Two questions (my apologies for asking something that has been answered before, but my searches have been unfruitful):

Other than resubscribing to their GIO group(s) with their new email address, is there any way they can change the email address associated with their GIO account?? Assume that at least one of the groups to which they are subscribed is a free (non-premium) group.

What happens to abandoned GIO accounts (not subscribed to any group)?? Are they removed after a certain period of inactivity?

Thanks.

???????????????????? Charlie

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Re: Your group [email protected]

 

Why is my group being removed?

Please read below to see what l wrote back.

Why can't I fight it before they remove it?

It seems unfair and one sided.





From: Karen Rodriguez <erotoo1@...>
Date: Friday, July 19, 2019
Subject: Re: Your group [email protected]
To: markf <[email protected]>

If you read my footer, I agreed to pay anyone if I accidentally sent a CDO tube.? I am not sure why I am being removed.
Below is my footer on each share.


If I have shared a scrap kit or tube accidentally that is 'PTU' or 'Do Not Share,' please email me at erotoo1@... and let me know the cost. I will be glad to pay for same. If it is not marked 'PTU' or 'Do Not Share,' there is no way to know that it is a 'Pay To Use' item.

In a message dated 7/19/2019 7:34:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

Hello,

We have continued to receive several DMCA takedown notice copyright complaints against messages in your group. As we warned one month ago, we will be disabling your group because of this. The group will be disabled in 24 hours.

Attached is one of several DMCA notices we've received recently.


Mark


Re: Invitation-only group #suggestion

TDSWC
 

Thankyou all for the very helpful comments - I am now more aware of some of the features available.

I think what I was wanting to address is actually outside of the main system.? It is the reject message sent when a non subscriber tries to post a topic via email.

Example reject message:
(highlighted text should ideally be removed/changed)

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [email protected]
    host lb01.groups.io [45.79.81.153]
    SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
    510 5.1.1 Your email address, xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk, is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit 

Reporting-MTA: dns; yyyyy.servers.prgn.misp.co.uk

Action: failed
Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; lb01.groups.io
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 510 5.1.1 Your email address, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk, is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit 


Re: How to create a receive-only email address? #howto

 

If you're an owner or sufficient level moderator go to your group/Admin/Integrations
The first option is for an email input (integration) point and then Facebook, etc follow further down the page.
As you? set up the email point, you will receive an email address that you can send to
BUT, each message sent to that point is automatically moderated and must be individually approved
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[mod note: Moderation is optional when you create or edit an Email Integration.]


How to create a receive-only email address? #howto

 

Hi everyone,

On the webpage of groups.io I have found the information, that it is possible to create a receive-only email address that posts to a group.

How can I do that?

Thanks in advance. Best,
Linda