|
Re: Default password?
On Dec 10, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:OK, then the ¡¯30 day¡¯ part of the explanation needs updating/correction |
|
Re: Naming main group and sub groups
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:24 PM, BarryS wrote:
Is it still the case that the email address for the main group is automatically re-named when a sub-group is created? I appreciate that the ¡°old¡± address would become an alias for the ¡°new¡± address, but I fear many of my subscribers will be spooked by the appearance of a different address (ie [email protected] rather than my [email protected]).Well, I ran a message through ShalsTest and the message header did show it coming back from?main(at)shalstest(dot)groups(dot)io. And so...I sit corrected. Not sure why this is important, as both addresses still work. Just tell your subscribers what's going to happen and hopefully they won't be "spooked." Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
|
Re: from "email via Groups.io"
#bug
Lance,
Ok, this is what it seems to have been. Thanks for the reminder onI'm actually surprised by that. I wouldn't have guessed that very many people use those Advanced Preferences, but if you see the FF badge on their rows in the Members list then that would indeed explain it. Also a little surprising that a member who went to the effort of making that choice would later forget they'd done so and complain to the group managers about missing replies... Or maybe I shouldn't be surprised. ;-) Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Default password?
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 09:51 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
¡®Login links¡¯ should always include the explanation that they are temporary (30 day) passwordsI don't think this is necessarily true any more.? Mark recently changed things so that every time you visit the site, your password/login cookie is renewed/extended.? If you don't go 30 days without visiting, and don't delete cookies, your login never expires. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
|
Re: from "email via Groups.io"
#bug
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 03:21 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
It is also possible for a member to choose Following Only plus First Message Also in the Advanced Preferences section of their Subscription page. This would cause the behavior of receiving original posts but not replies.Ok, this is what it seems to have been.? Thanks for the reminder on this setting.? I had known about it, but forgot about it. |
|
Re: Default password?
Shal did a good rewrite of
"GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password-and-Profile%3B-Changing-Email-Address" Chris said: | Now for most purposes the precise terminology is of little or no matter No, this is only true among people who already understand and don¡¯t need an explanation. Sloppy ¡®explanations¡¯ are more likely to NOT enlighten people who do need accurate information. Most of the confusion of users and traffic on GMF is a consequence. Groups.io would be better served with accurate and reliable wording. I¡¯d also like to see better verbiage and consistent usage, especially for: Groups.io two levels of users: ¡°Subscribers¡±: Those who use email only and have never accessed the website by logging in. ¡°Members¡±: Those who login to the website with a password, including a ¡®login link¡¯ (a temporary password). Passwords/login links To say users can access the website without a password by using a ¡®login link¡¯ is misleading as ¡®login links¡¯ are merely temporary passwords. There is no difference in what access they enable, only the duration of access. ¡®Login links¡¯ should always include the explanation that they are temporary (30 day) passwords, and the suggestion to create a permanent password along with the explanation of how little effort is required to ¡®upgrade¡¯ a login link to a (permanent) password. |
|
Re: spoofing
One Marvin to another-- I think you have to step up on this one yourself. Clearly, some crud-ball did something nasty to you, but it appears that it was done by breaking into your gmail account. It's your job to make that as difficult as possible. Were you phished? Did you follow best practices for avoiding being phished? There is a ton of information out there on how to avoid being phished. Even the most knowledgeable and care get taken sometimes, but were you up on your anti-phishing game?
Or was your gmail password weak? Password managers like LastPass make strong passwords manageable. Google offers multi-factor authentication. If you are not using multi, think about it. I don't know a single computer security professional who does not recommend using multi-factor. I don't mean to shame you. I've been caught myself, but if you don't do your best to protect yourself, you're shorting yourself. It would be wonderful if Mark could do more to increase Groups.io security, but computing today is built on an insecure foundation and he can only do so much. (Mark-- That's not an excuse to slack off on security-- just a note of understanding!) It's a tough world and no one is in a better position to take care of you than you are to take care of yourself. I don't mean to self-promote, but I post personal computer security suggestions on my site marvinwaschke.com that might be helpful. Best, Marv |
|
Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name
Ellen,
Isn't the option to use your .. I call it my main addy ... instead ofPosting from one address, while receiving at another is one work-around; one can do that with an Email Alias address in your account (or a second account and subscription). With Gmail as your provider you might not even need a second email address, just use a "dotted" form for one of them (shals.2nd versus shals2nd, for example). I'm not sure though that I'd consider that any less a PITA than putting up with the From rewriting. Though I suppose once you've got it set it up right it may not require further effort. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Default password?
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 03:57 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
I see that I now have a collection of Group Profiles, not Display NamesThey're related, but not the same thing.? Within each Group Profile, not available to anyone but the individual, you have the option to change your Display Name (along with a few other items.)? On the Members list of your group, you'll see Display Name. ? Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
|
Re: Default password?
Michael,
What is this 'default password?There's no such thing. The section was confused about how logging in without a password works. I've re-written it. Does it refer to the temporary password (login link) that anyI believe so. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name
Loopy,
It was all fine until about 4 or 5 days ago and once again thisAs Bruce cited, a few weeks ago Gmail made a change, which caused a warning to be displayed if you receive your own message back from Groups.io. To avoid that warning Groups.io made a change to how the "From" field is written when sent back to you (but not to other members of the group). That's what you're seeing. I don't like it either. I was happy with my messages showing up in Gmail as From "me", now they're From someone named "Shal Farley via Groups.io". Aside from being ugly, this new method confuses my email client (Thunderbird) because the From no longer matches any account I actually have. PITA I hope someone can help because I don't like that being added.Not in the foreseeable future. There is a technique Groups.io can try (ARC signing the messages), but it is a lot of work for Mark and not guaranteed to succeed. Or Gmail could roll back that change, but that is even less likely, Mark has talked with an engineer there and he says the trend is towards tightening the rules, not relaxing them. Gmail's intent is to ensure that you, as a recipient of a message, can tell when the message was sent directly from someone's email account versus when it was sent "via" some third-party service (a list) like Groups.io. Other people in the group use gmail without this issue.For now, you see other member's addresses without that change, and they see yours without it. And every Gmail user sees their own with it. But if Gmail tightens this up further Groups.io may be forced to re-write more user's From addresses. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
|
Re: Missing incoming messages for two days?
It would depend on the group.? I have one with little activity at times, but spurts now and then.? Another usually has 'constant' activity, but has had spells of 3-4 days with none.
Have you looked in the Activity Log to see if there's any information that may show a possible cause? Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Michael Pavan
Bruce
Shal Farley
Duane
Lance Brown
Marvin Waschke