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Thanks for the extra info on sunlight Rick. K


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "rickmuenzer" <rickam@c...>
wrote:

Hi Keith

You seemed to have found the key. When you study all the successful
protocols they include sunlight. You can go to the files area of

this

group and find lots more on Budwig and sunlight:

It is interesting that most recommend getting sunlight before 11

am or

after 3 pm - but that is not what one of the most knowledgable
proponents of sunlight Krispin Sullivan recommends.

tml

"In order to achieve optimal levels of vitamin D, 85 percent of

body

surface needs exposure to prime midday sun. (About 100-200 IU of
vitamin D is produced for each 5 percent of body surface exposed,

we

want 4,000 iu.)"
And now the recommendations for anyone with disease is getting

about

20,000 IU of vitamin D from sunlight naturally.

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "lookie13" <lookie13@n...>
wrote:

what else does Dr. Lorraine Day recommend?

Dr. Day's videos have many more details than I can write here. The
one that describes her 10 step program in full is "You can't improve
on God." In my opinion, its worth it just to have the data. Another
interesting thing is at the time of making the video (2000 or 2002)
she was 60 years old. In the video she only looks mid-to-late 40's
to me. Seems like something's working!


Here's the 10 steps in a nutshell with a few notes of mine.

1- Nutrition - Fruits & Vegetables only, no meat or dairy. (Dairy is
the only conflict with Dr. Budwig's diet, but since organic cottage
cheese is a neccessary part of the the FO/CC diet it has to be
included and I dont see a big problem with it.)
A person can get plenty of calcium from green leafy vegetables.
We consume too much protein, about 30 Grams a day is all thats
needed. Eat whole grain breads only, not enriched. Make sure the
colon is working properly, as most cancers start in the colon. Drink
Carrot juice daily, about 8 glasses. This is important to build up
the immune system. Carrot juice also cleans out toxins. Can add
green vegetable juices with it to get more nutrition. Almonds are
THE best nuts to eat. Barley Green also helps build the immune
system.

2- Exercise- By age 25 a person has 40% decreased blood flow. By age
35, 60% decreased. Exercise is needed to get the body in motion.
You'll look & feel better and the body will respond better to all
things. Exercise at least 3 days a week, preferably 5. Walking is
fine or other cardiovascular.

3- Drink Pure Water- The body is 75% water, brain is 80% water. Dont
drink distilled water (my own research), reverse osmosis is best.
Other filtration methods in addition to RO is fine. If drinking alot
of water, add 1/4 tsp of high quality salt. Sun-dried salt is best.

4- Sunlight- Sunlight helps the body heal and activates white blood
cells in the body that fight bacteria. 30 minutes per day
recommended. It has many, many health benefits. Skin cancer is
relatively new, occuring mostly in the last 50 years. She feels this
is because of our change in diets to processed foods & chemicals.
With the right nutrition sunlight is a powerful health benefit.

5- Temperance- Abstinence from all drugs, sugar, caffeine, alcohol.

6- Lots of fresh air daily- Pure Oxygen is needed for healthy red
blood cells. Get outside and get fresh air.

7- Proper rest- Get sleep at the proper time and in dark
surroundings. A quiet environment is best.

8- Trust in God or your Supreme Being that he will heal you. She
says this is a very important part of the program. Basically God
wants each of us to be healed. There are many biblical references to
support this.

9- Attitude of Gratitude- Be thankful for the things you do have.

10- Benevolence- Think of others and help others whenever possible.
Get "outside yourself" and your own problems.


Keith

Thanks for the reply about what might be allowed to eat but I missed
two foods off and again would appreciate some comment

While I do eat a lot of raw foods my most of the time it consistes of
raw salad I do add peices of satsuma oranges and a kiwi fruit I guess
they should be ok ???????????

also two or three avocados mainly because they give some calorie. I
did eat a small amount of organic chicken twice in the first month
(breast) but now I try a just eat the raw salad avaocados.

I suppose what i'm asking is could that twice have effected the
Budwig working for me, I know that J Budwig does allow a little
chicken in her book.

My question is that with the salad in the evening I also eat 2 or 3
new organic potatoes ( will that be OK )

and bread which my wife bakes. (no butter)

to make the bread she uses about

1 lb Organic flour (stoneground)
fresh yeast (given free from the local supermarket)

The bread rises well and stays fresh for about 2/3 days.

This is my 7th week and I have had for lunch a mixed salad with the
bread as a sandwhich with either a hard boiled egg on this or a small
quantity of organic rocquefort cheese its quiet strong flavored so
you only need a little.

I write this because I know that eating can be very difficult both
from calories (getting enough) or variety.

BUT I AM AWARE THAT I AM NOT WANTING TO SPOIL THE BUDWIG - IF ANY
ONES EXPERIENCE SAYS THAT WHAT I AM EATING IS NOT GOOD THEN PLEASE
LET ME KNOW - OTHERWISE IT MAY PROVIDE EATING FOR OTHERS

Regards and thanks to you all -and may you all succeed in your quest
for health

Anyone want the recipe/method for the bread just let me know
Ray

Hi Ray,

Your case is so very similar to my dad's Non-Hodgkins lymphoma.
Except, he didn't have his tumor in his lymph node removed in his
groin. His tumor was very painful and was almost 6 cm in size. He
followed the Budwig protocol and his tumor size came down within the
first 6 weeks and totally disappeared by the 12th week. He has been
cancer free for 13 months now and is feeling very well. We had a
family dinner today and I noticed that he is still not touching meat -
just like my sister who is following the Budwig protocol for her
breast cancer. They both only eat tiny protions of fish to satisfy
their meat tastes. She has been in remission for 15 months now. They
both had a wonderful meal today - Wild brown rice, mixed veggies
(steamed)and salads topped with fo/cc mayonnaise. Dessert? You
guessed it.........fo/cc fridge cheescake sweetened with stevia,
topped with strawberries.:-)

Your other questions:
Butter - rather wait with butter until you are confirmed to be in
remission, but it is 100% better than margarine
Olive oil is fine - make sure it is cold pressed
Meat - same as butter
Strawberry jam?????? I don't know

Ray, be very strict with yourself for at least 3 months. When I say,
very strict, I mean, very strict. Eat only the foods as prescribed
by Dr Budwig, and make 70% of your foods raw - the 30% cooked foods
will not include meat but only veggies and brown rice (steamed if
possible). 3 Months compared to the rest of your life is nothing -
JUST DO IT!!

Hope this helps and lots of strongs
Cheryl



--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "nejray" <ipuk@o...> wrote:

After having a small lymph node remomed from the groin and biopsied

I

have recently been diagnosed with small lympohocytic lymphoma a

form

I beleive of non hogkins (low grade) / chronic lymphocytic

leukemia -

the explanation given was that these two were like twins - but in
other words what was detected in the lymph node groin was also
detected in the bone marrow.

I have started the Budwig FO/CC can anyone tell me if that has

cured

this particular problem.

also

After first month:
Can any of the following foods be eaten if they are organic.

Butter
Olive Oil Cold pressed and organic
Meat - If organic - should not contain nasties

Also I found some strawberry jam - that contains only strawberries -

pectin and sweetened with concentrated grape juice.

I know you can have grape juice , but would it be permitted like
this.

Thanks and good health I hope to all.

Ray

After having a small lymph node remomed from the groin and biopsied I
have recently been diagnosed with small lympohocytic lymphoma a form
I beleive of non hogkins (low grade) / chronic lymphocytic leukemia -
the explanation given was that these two were like twins - but in
other words what was detected in the lymph node groin was also
detected in the bone marrow.

I have started the Budwig FO/CC can anyone tell me if that has cured
this particular problem.

also

After first month:
Can any of the following foods be eaten if they are organic.

Butter
Olive Oil Cold pressed and organic
Meat - If organic - should not contain nasties

Also I found some strawberry jam - that contains only strawberries -
pectin and sweetened with concentrated grape juice.

I know you can have grape juice , but would it be permitted like
this.

Thanks and good health I hope to all.

Ray

Barb wrote:

Ulla, thanks for the tip. I like the idea of throwing them in
boiling water because too many raw nuts and seeds and I can get
diahrea. However, if you prepare almonds this way ahead of time, do they get soggy on you???? I rinsed off some almonds, ate a few, left the rest in a colandar and when I went to eat the rest later in the
day they were soggy. I didn't think an almond would absorb moisture like that. I left them in a strainer type of bowl that had holes in the bottom too. Do you eat them soggy like that???

Hi Barb, as long as you run the whole batch under cold water for a moment and then peel them immediately, they keep fine and un-soggy in my experience (perhaps because I shake the strainer occasionally to make sure they dry evenly from all sides).

Does anybody know if almonds lose their benefits if they are toasted or roasted?

The article at
www.healingcancernaturally.com/spirituality.html#almondscayce which I mentioned also discusses the question "Are Raw Almonds Better Than Roasted Almonds?" and concludes "It seems reasonable, therefore, until more is known about the effects of specific components of almonds, to consume raw almonds in preference to roasted almonds. Roasted almonds, however, still have substantial nutritional value."

Ulla

Dear Anna,

The time it takes for a tumor to get smaller or before you notice a change
is really not a question that is easy to answer. With my own dad - he was
diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins lymphoma and his tumor's size came down within
six (6) weeks and totally disappeared by the 12th week on the Budwig
protocol. Some people start noticing a change from the 3rd week while
others take months before there is a change in the size of the tumor. One
thing I would like to say about all this is that the Budwig protocol will
most certainly stop the tumor from getting bigger and spreading to the other
organs. We have a lady in our group with breast cancer who refused chemo
and radiation - she is doing only the Budwig protocol. She had two lumps in
her breast and she has been following the protocol since January this year.
She can still feel the lumps, although a lot smaller, but she is feeling on
top of the world and she never stopped working and hasn't felt ill ever
since she was diagnosed with breast cancer. Another friend of hers was
diagnosed with breast cancer, in December last year, she went for surgery,
chemo and radiation treatments. She became so ill, lost all her hair,
suffered from pneumonia several times this year and she had to stop working
and is still not well at all.

The point I'm trying to make is that although the tumors are worrying and
one would like them to disappear as soon as possible, at least with the
Budwig protocol you know that you are keeping them in check although it
might take some time for them to disappear, but you will be able to enjoy a
wonderful active quality of life.

Strongs and best wishes
Cheryl

Dear group,

Rick mentioned studying successful protocols and that they all include
sunlight - a very interesting observation indeed. Another golden similarity
in all the successful protocols is a raw food diet with no, or very little
animal protein. I recently read a book that I ordered from Amazon. It was
written many many years ago (1928)- The Grape Cure by Johanna Brandt. What
an interesting read. Although she doesn't include our wonderful fo/cc in
her diet she stresses the fact the she was unable to heal herself until she
realized that it is because she is eating the wrong foods. She switched to
an all raw food diet and I think that is maybe how she overcame her cancer.
She reckons that the grape is charged with the magnetism of the sun and
every tendril is a living receiver of the cosmic magnetism (her words).
Also very similar to our Budwig diet. Meat and cooked foods according to
her are the wrong foods if you want to overcome cancer. Enzymes in foods
are destroyed if the food is cooked - as simple as that. She was also a
firm believer in sunlight therapy. The body needs all the enzymes possible
to overcome cancer. Something that our dear Dr Budwig also stressed - along
with sunlight and fo/cc.

Keep well
Cheryl

what else does Dr. Lorraine Day recommend?

Hi Keith

You seemed to have found the key. When you study all the successful
protocols they include sunlight. You can go to the files area of this
group and find lots more on Budwig and sunlight:

It is interesting that most recommend getting sunlight before 11 am or
after 3 pm - but that is not what one of the most knowledgable
proponents of sunlight Krispin Sullivan recommends.

"In order to achieve optimal levels of vitamin D, 85 percent of body
surface needs exposure to prime midday sun. (About 100-200 IU of
vitamin D is produced for each 5 percent of body surface exposed, we
want 4,000 iu.)"
And now the recommendations for anyone with disease is getting about
20,000 IU of vitamin D from sunlight naturally.

I'm currently doing Dr. Lorraine Day's anti-cancer program in
conjunction with Dr. Budwig's. They're both very compatible. One of
the 10 steps of Dr. Day's program is getting some sunlight each day.
(I may have read that here also) Anyways, I just sat out in the
sunlight for 15 minutes front and 15 minutes back. I have to say my
skin feels envigorated, I feel more energy and my skin just feels
healthier after getting some sunshine. I'm planning to make it a
habit. The only cautions I've read are to not get too much sun and
to avoid 11am-3pm as the UV rays are highest at those times.

Here's a couple of articles on the benefits of sunshine.

Sunshine heals more than it harms:


Sunshine:

Keith

Lane Labs has been selling Shark Cartilege for Cancer. They had some studies
supporting it, but probably could not make a cancer claim.
arnold
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Date:7/26/2004 12:10:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
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FDA NEWS
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P04-64
July 13, 2004

U.S. District Judge Issues Permanent Injunction Against Lane
Labs-USA, Inc. and Orders Firm to Refund Money to Purchasers
of Illegally Marketed Unapproved Drugs

The Food and Drug Administration today announced that Judge
William G. Bassler of the United States District Court for
the District of New Jersey, has found that three products
sold by Lane Labs-USA, Inc. and its president Andrew J. Lane
(the defendants) as dietary supplements and a cosmetic -
Benefin, MGN-3 and SkinAnswer - are, in fact, unapproved
new drugs under federal law because they were being mar-
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out FDA approval. In addition, Judge Bassler permanently
enjoined the defendants from distributing BeneFin, MGN-3,
and SkinAnswer unless the products are first either approved
for marketing by the FDA or distributed pursuant to an
Investigational New Drug (IND) application for purposes of
conducting a clinical trial. Judge Bassler also ordered
the defendants to pay restitution to all purchasers of
BeneFin, MGN-3 and SkinAnswer since September 22, 1999.

'Today's action by Judge Bassler sends a strong signal that
the promotion and sale of unapproved drug products, espec-
ially for the treatment of cancer and other serious diseases,
will not be tolerated,' said Dr. Lester M. Crawford, Acting
Commissioner of Food and Drugs.

'Moreover, the court's decision ordering the defendants in
this case to refund money to all purchasers of the unlaw-
fully marketed products is particularly significant, because
it puts promoters of such illegal products on notice that
they cannot profit from this type of exploitation,' added
Dr. Crawford.

FDA issued a warning letter to the defendants in September,
1997. Nevertheless, the defendants continued promoting
BeneFin, MGN-3, and SkinAnswer as treatments for cancer and
other diseases through such means as mailings, Internet web
sites, and employee statements. BeneFin, produced from
shark cartilage, was promoted as a treatment for cancer.
SkinAnswer, a glycoalkaloid skin cream, was marketed as a
treatment for skin cancer. MGN-3, a rice-bran extract, was
promoted as a treatment for cancer and HIV, the virus that
causes AIDS.

The government's request for a permanent injunction was
based on the defendants' demonstrated unwillingness to
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COMMENT FROM BILL HENDERSON, WHO HAS A CANCER NEWSLETTER:
SO, YOUR GOVERNMENT WORKS TO PROTECT YOU

This type of action by the FDA and FTC is almost always
the direct result of a complaint from a pharmaceutical
company. Any natural substance which appears to have
promise of treating a disease for which there are huge
profits to be made from pharmaceutical drugs gets put
down. If this doesn't help you vow to take charge of
your own health care, I'm not sure what will.

Pat, it sounds like you're doing everything right to aid your own recovery. The only thing I would add is to perhaps study up on Guided Imagery. Here's an eloquent testimonial and a tutorial on how to do it:

I find the Budwig protocol to be among the cheapest "eats" that can be found. You can get flaxseed for $1.99 per pound (that's a LOT of seeds) at ...



...and a 3-lb tub of lowfat cottage cheese is a little over $3 at Costco. I bought a 32 oz (one month supply at 1 oz per day) bottle of liquid vitamins at Costco for a little over $11. And the deal of the century on 100% pure Hawaiian Noni juice has just got to be at ...



... 32 oz. for $12 (40 cents per day) (plus shipping).

You can buy apricot kernels (Vitamina B-17--laetrile) online dirt cheap, too.

I guess what I'm saying is, cut out the fluff in your grocery budget (we all have some) and there's money for essentials?

I am currently recovering from breast cancer. I started back to work
recently doing 20-30 hours a week so I can be home for my daughter
after school. My hours are from 9 to 3 and sometimes I get off early
if business is slow. I work for a call center taking phone orders.
The trick to working is finding a job to suit you without getting
stressed out. My income is low enough where I qualify for medicaid
and public housing. I found a good alternative healthcare
practitioner who is willing to work with me financially. I also use
the internet to order most of my supplements that he has recommended
for me to take.

I start my mornings with fo/cc over a bowl of mixed berries and
grounded flax seeds. I find that this really keeps me full during the
day. I take a piece of fruit and bottled water to work for breaktime
since I don't really have a lunch period. When I come home I fix my
main meal of fresh vegetables and some type of high quality protein.
My favorite is wild salmon. I use the Oil-Protein Diet as a
guideline. I am a carboholic so I avoid a lot of simple carbohydrates
such as bread, potatoes, corn and rice. I use a lot of quinoa which
is an excellent alternative to rice and potatoes.

I keep my diet simple and easy which helps. When I have time to
experiment I like trying out the different recipes in Dr. Budwig's
book. It's not that hard once you decide to just do it. Everything
else falls into place.

Pat


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "oohthisloveis"
<oohthisloveis@y...> wrote:

I've been really stressed because I need to start working again
because of financial difficulties. Luckily I'm able to livew rent
free right now with my parents but its just getting to the point
where I'm eally running low on resources. This flax oil and the
vitamins along with the alternative approach really adds up.

Anyway, I was just curious if any of you guys are still working

with

cancer and how do you impliment the budwig protocol into your day?

Hi everyone,
I have just been diagnosed with PCa, gleason 7 and we don't know if
it has spread any past the prostate yet. I will get the "final" word
from the doctor on the 17th of Aug.

I have been doing FO/CC for about 6 weeks now, at 4-6 tsp of flax oil
per day and 4-5 tsp of ground FS per day. NO meats, fish and dairy
except for the cc. My diet is raw fruits and vegies except
occasionally for supper I have some cooked beans and sometimes brown
rice.
I also take several supplements including almost all of the natural 5-
lo inhibitors I can find. (Zyfkamend and added ginger and I am still
looking for boswellia) I also take ellagic acid and eat lots of red
raspberries.

My questions are these:
1: How long before I go to the maintenance amounts?

Omega 3 and omega 6 require a balance for good health. Before I
started the fo/cc I fasted for 15 days on lemon juice and I feel that
may have helped reduce the omega 6's. I also take CLA and that is
supposed to create an imbalance quicker than the 2-3 months. For
those diagnosed with PCa, how long normally do (did) you stay on the
full 6-8 tsp FO?

2: Are you sure it works (FO CC and prostate cancer)
My second question exists only because of the bad press on LNA. I
feel there are reasonable reasons for the bad press on LNA and PCa.
I understand that one answer would be that it was not assimable as a
supplement without the cc.

I quess I need some reasurance that this works for prostate cancer.

Paul

I've been really stressed because I need to start working again
because of financial difficulties. Luckily I'm able to livew rent
free right now with my parents but its just getting to the point
where I'm eally running low on resources. This flax oil and the
vitamins along with the alternative approach really adds up.

Anyway, I was just curious if any of you guys are still working with
cancer and how do you impliment the budwig protocol into your day?

Devingel wrote:
<No, buttermilk will not give you good cheese - this only works with milk.

I have recently made quarck using buttermilk according to the recipe in the files which is the recipe Wilhelm said he uses. The buttermilk is heated to 150 F or 65.5 C - not boiled.

I'd like confirmation that buttermilk is a suitable ingredient to make quarck.
Denzil
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In a message dated 7/31/2004 3:45:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,
oohthisloveis@... writes:
curious if any of you guys are still working with
cancer and how do you impliment
Hello,
My mother works with cancer. Fortunatley she goes from about 8-12 then comes
home until three (not supposed to though) and then goes back till maybe 5/6.
Its not easy...and somedays she cant go..espeically if she didnt get enough
sleep or is in too much pain. It also depends on your cancer. What type do you
have? and about Budwig...she eats it when she gets home.
Liz

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