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If voice stopped working for Maps I bet it won’t work for Waze or Google Maps either, though I might give them a try. ?I made no changes in settings but one day, poof. ? Maybe iOS 18 is the culprit. ? Maybe the Subaru dealer can help though I won’t hold my breath.
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I’m in the UK and fitted a Pioneer receiver myself to get CarPlay and other “smart” features, but Waze works very well. <>
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With no luck getting voice working in Maps on CarPlay, I’m considering giving Google Maps a whirl IF it works through CarPlay WITH voice. ?Has anyone tried it? ?Success? ?Failure?
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My DH and I just drove back home to north central Vermont from mid coast Maine through the interior rather than skirting the White mountains via expressway as we’ve done in the past. ?While Maps got us back ok, it sure would have been nice to get voice heads-up for turns. ?Curving two lane roads make taking directions from a screen less than ideal.
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Just to say that I find Waze the best route planner/navigation app, in the UK anyway. Although it’s been owned by Google since 2013, it’s been kept separate and I especially like the way that community input keeps it really up-to-date, with a sometimes surprising level of detail, e.g., in the UK, road “potholes” are a real issue and Waze warns me about the worst ones.
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On 11 Nov 2024, at 00:43, Dave Skolnick KO4MI via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:
Hi Brent,
The cow pasture story goes back some years. The latest error was minutes before my post. It routed me from my home to my barber shop along a road that was closed two years ago. Other mapping tools have long been updated. State GIS files are updated.
I leave on the outskirts of Annapolis MD. It's a town with pretensions of being a city that happens to be the capitol of Maryland and is within an hour of both Baltimore and Washington DC. Your memory is close. I live on a peninsula. That has come up in previous posts because we lose electrical power often for extended periods because the common mesh power distribution network from which most people even in rural areas benefit isn't available to us. Water in the way and not enough people affected to make underwater distribution cables economic.
A couple of months ago a tree fell on a main road. Again, peninsulas make things awkward. Alternative roads are very time consuming. Google Maps showed the road closure within half an hour of local emergency management text messaging of the road closure. Apple Maps doesn't show a permanent road closure that is two years old.
GIS is essentially a utility at this point. I cannot explain why the performance of Apple Maps is so far behind the competition. That doesn't mean it's going to send you off a cliff like Thelma and Louise, but stories like that of Bob G. are all too common. Google Maps gets me within forty or fifty feet of residential addresses in my suburban neighborhood. I saw a Google mapping car about a year ago and Street View has been updated since then, so I missed a car driving through. I'm not in the boonies. *grin*
I like Waze also, but since Google bought them and all the real time updates are shared I've gone back to Google Maps as I like the simpler interface better.
For the peripheral discussion, getting older is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes even going outside to shake my fist at clouds causes something to hurt.
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Cathy,
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No issue with audio for us with Apple Maps, Google Maps, Waze, Libby, Prime Video, Podcast app, everything. 2021 Honda Accord Hybrid with CarPlay, iPhone 12 mini on iOS 18.1, iPhone 12 Pro on iOS 18.1, all apps on everything (including CarPlay on the car) are updated regularly.
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As for windy roads, North Up orientation is the way. Thus spake the navigator. *grin*
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The only times I don’t get audio prompts from Maps is when BT and allow location are turned on _before_ Maps is opened. Otherwise no audio, and I have to force quit Maps and reopen it.
I drive a 2000 Ford Range from before CarPlay, and need a vampire wiring adapter and BT dongle to work from my phone.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Nov 10, 2024, at 16:29, Jim McGarvie via groups.io <jim@...> wrote:
?I get voice with both Maps and Google Maps on CarPlay.
Jim
On Nov 10, 2024, at 15:17, Cathy via groups.io <devittad2@...> wrote:
With no luck getting voice working in Maps on CarPlay, I’m considering giving Google Maps a whirl IF it works through CarPlay WITH voice. Has anyone tried it? Success? Failure?
My DH and I just drove back home to north central Vermont from mid coast Maine through the interior rather than skirting the White mountains via expressway as we’ve done in the past. While Maps got us back ok, it sure would have been nice to get voice heads-up for turns. Curving two lane roads make taking directions from a screen less than ideal.
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Hi Brent,
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The cow pasture story goes back some years. The latest error was minutes before my post. It routed me from my home to my barber shop along a road that was closed two years ago. Other mapping tools have long been updated. State GIS files are updated.
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I leave on the outskirts of Annapolis MD. It's a town with pretensions of being a city that happens to be the capitol of Maryland and is within an hour of both Baltimore and Washington DC. Your memory is close. I live on a peninsula. That has come up in previous posts because we lose electrical power often for extended periods because the common mesh power distribution network from which most people even in rural areas benefit isn't available to us. Water in the way and not enough people affected to make underwater distribution cables economic.
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A couple of months ago a tree fell on a main road. Again, peninsulas make things awkward. Alternative roads are very time consuming. Google Maps showed the road closure within half an hour of local emergency management text messaging of the road closure. Apple Maps doesn't show a permanent road closure that is two years old.
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GIS is essentially a utility at this point. I cannot explain why the performance of Apple Maps is so far behind the competition. That doesn't mean it's going to send you off a cliff like Thelma and Louise, but stories like that of Bob G. are all too common. Google Maps gets me within forty or fifty feet of residential addresses in my suburban neighborhood. I saw a Google mapping car about a year ago and Street View has been updated since then, so I missed a car driving through. I'm not in the boonies. *grin*
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I like Waze also, but since Google bought them and all the real time updates are shared I've gone back to Google Maps as I like the simpler interface better.
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For the peripheral discussion, getting older is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes even going outside to shake my fist at clouds causes something to hurt.
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I always use Waze. I checked today and get voice with the app.
Brent L.
I get voice with both Maps and Google Maps on CarPlay.
Jim
> On Nov 10, 2024, at 15:17, Cathy via <devittad2=[email protected]> wrote:
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> With no luck getting voice working in Maps on CarPlay, I’m considering giving Google Maps a whirl IF it works through CarPlay WITH voice.? Has anyone tried it?? Success?? Failure?
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> My DH and I just drove back home to north central Vermont from mid coast Maine through the interior rather than skirting the White mountains via expressway as we’ve done in the past.? While Maps got us back ok, it sure would have been nice to get voice heads-up for turns.? Curving two lane roads make taking directions from a screen less than ideal.
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I get voice with both Maps and Google Maps on CarPlay.
Jim
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On Nov 10, 2024, at 15:17, Cathy via groups.io <devittad2@...> wrote:
With no luck getting voice working in Maps on CarPlay, I’m considering giving Google Maps a whirl IF it works through CarPlay WITH voice. Has anyone tried it? Success? Failure?
My DH and I just drove back home to north central Vermont from mid coast Maine through the interior rather than skirting the White mountains via expressway as we’ve done in the past. While Maps got us back ok, it sure would have been nice to get voice heads-up for turns. Curving two lane roads make taking directions from a screen less than ideal.
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With no luck getting voice working in Maps on CarPlay, I’m considering giving Google Maps a whirl IF it works through CarPlay WITH voice. ?Has anyone tried it? ?Success? ?Failure?
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My DH and I just drove back home to north central Vermont from mid coast Maine through the interior rather than skirting the White mountains via expressway as we’ve done in the past. ?While Maps got us back ok, it sure would have been nice to get voice heads-up for turns. ?Curving two lane roads make taking directions from a screen less than ideal.
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On Nov 9, 2024, at 1:32 PM, Bob G. via < rowerbob@...> wrote:
While it’s hell getting old, like George Burns used to say: ?“Consider the alternative.”
Bob
I have alterterd by former reply, that "I am on the right side of the grass” and enjoy it, to I am on the rightsize of the meadow flowers, so as not encourage wasting water on lawns that are not needed to kids to play on.?
George was a wit. If you haven’t read his book “Gracie: A Love Story”, do read it. It truly is a love letter to his wife.
Brent
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Brent wrote: I find that *getting* old wasn’t so bad. BEING old is a real drag, a lot of the time.
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On Nov 9, 2024, at 15:51, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Bob, did by perchance did that part of town have a bunch of oneway streets, or did you set it to avoid any thing?
Hi Brent - no to all of the above. ?I have placed no restrictions on Apple when it comes to choosing my route. ?An aside: many of the seniors I help were delighted they could set Apple maps so they would never have to go on the busy, crazy interstates in the Washington, DC, metro area.
I don’t drive in downtown Portland, OR any more. Too many oneway streets. My out of state friend was driving, using a navigation app on an Android. It, or his interpretation kept trying to send us down the wrong way, or on a long detour.?
We were in a couple of common tourist areas, and could see our destination, but because of traffic signage, safety or meridians, you could not drive there from here. Two of the four in the car could not walk that far. Once he dropped us off, he had to park the car 3 blocks away, and walk back. It is hell getting old.?
While it’s hell getting old, like George Burns used to say: ?“Consider the alternative.”
Bob
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Bob, did by perchance did that part of town have a bunch of oneway streets, or did you set it to avoid any thing?
I don’t drive in downtown Portland, OR any more. Too many oneway streets. My out of state friend was driving, using a navigation app on an Android. It, or his interpretation kept trying to send us down the wrong way, or on a long detour.?
We were in a couple of common tourist areas, and could see our destination, but because of traffic signage, safety or meridians, you could not drive there from here. Two of the four in the car could not walk that far. Once he dropped us off, he had to park the car 3 blocks away, and walk back. It is hell getting old.?
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On Nov 9, 2024, at 04:52, Bob G. via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:
? On Nov 9, 2024, at 06:47, Dave Skolnick KO4MI via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:
Some years ago Apple Maps sent me across a cow pasture.?
Hi Dave -?
I literally just this week did the same thing: ?gave up on Apple maps, despite having an Apple Watch which integrates beautifully with Apple maps.
My frustration was this: ?imagine a square box on a map and place yourself at the top right-hand corner of that box. ?I did not realize it but the store I wanted to go to was straight south on that box, at its bottom right-hand corner.
Well, Apple maps took me first to the top left-hand corner, then down to the bottom left-hand corner, and finally to my destination, the bottom right-hand corner. ?As I drove it, I began to realize what was happening and by the time I reached my destination was so frustrated with Apple maps that I decided then and there to download Waze and go through its settings and use it instead.
Bob ——- “When sorrows come,?they come not single?spies, but in?battalions.” - Hamlet
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Could your accuracy problem be caused by your location? Don’t you live on an island off the upper East Coast? The maps in lower population area are updated less often. Also when did the misadventures happen? Are we talking recent or way back?
On returning to somewhere in the Mid West, I had been told to use a particular highway exit. The one I had used 2 years prior, to get to the same hotel had been closed. A new exit had been built earlier. It took 7 miles to re-route me back to the hotel, but my stand alone Garmin couldn’t do it. Not even after updating the digital map. For some reason it took 3 years for an interstate exit to be corrected.?
I think that is the second or third error I have encountered in 24 years of using GPS for driving directions, and I have driven to some off the beaten path places to remote construction sites for wind farms. Yeah, they mess up street numbers occasionally.?
But this is also why I like printed overview maps. Do you realize that in Los Angeles and Orange Counties, there are like seven Euclid Avenues. And one of those has 6-digit street numbers, while the other side has only 5. That is because the different sides belong to different cities. There is nothing to indicate this, you just have to know. It is kind of like being told to travel to Kansas City. Which one, MO or KS? Same spot on the river, just one is east and the other west.?
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On Nov 9, 2024, at 04:03, Dave Skolnick KO4MI <dave@...> wrote:
? I don't use Apple Maps because it isn't nearly as good as Google Maps or Waze (now owned by Google).
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However I just fired it up (iPhone 12 mini with iOS 18.1, all apps updated). Audio works fine for me. I did have to turn location services on (ask permission and only once) and confirmed volume was up. Directions were wrong, but the audio worked.
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Some years ago Apple Maps sent me across a cow pasture. That was it for me. My SIL is a fan and when we head off in tandem and she follows Apple Maps while I use Google Maps I consistently arrive earlier and with less stress. YMMV.
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You'll have figured out my solution by now. *grin*
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On Nov 9, 2024, at 06:47, Dave Skolnick KO4MI via groups.io <dave@...> wrote:
Some years ago Apple Maps sent me across a cow pasture.?
Hi Dave -?
I literally just this week did the same thing: ?gave up on Apple maps, despite having an Apple Watch which integrates beautifully with Apple maps.
My frustration was this: ?imagine a square box on a map and place yourself at the top right-hand corner of that box. ?I did not realize it but the store I wanted to go to was straight south on that box, at its bottom right-hand corner.
Well, Apple maps took me first to the top left-hand corner, then down to the bottom left-hand corner, and finally to my destination, the bottom right-hand corner. ?As I drove it, I began to realize what was happening and by the time I reached my destination was so frustrated with Apple maps that I decided then and there to download Waze and go through its settings and use it instead.
Bob ——- “When sorrows come,?they come not single?spies, but in?battalions.” - Hamlet
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Maps no longer speaks directions even though I have it turned on in Settings. ?Same when I use CarPlay. ?Not sure if the updates to the new iOS screwed things up or not. ?Is anyone else having the same problem? ?Any ideas for a fix? ?I really miss the voice when I’m driving.
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On more than one occasion, for reasons unknown to me, when I turn on Maps and start my journey, just like you, there's no sound. What I found is that the sound level has been turned all the way down and clicking the increase sound button on the side solves the problem. Give it a try.
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I tried using the side button to increase sound, but no joy. ?I think it must be a bug in the new iOS. ?I haven’t tried Google maps. (I have aversion to all things Google.) ?But if sound works as expected with Google maps I might have to bite the bullet and give it a try.
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I don't use Apple Maps because it isn't nearly as good as Google Maps or Waze (now owned by Google).
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However I just fired it up (iPhone 12 mini with iOS 18.1, all apps updated). Audio works fine for me. I did have to turn location services on (ask permission and only once) and confirmed volume was up. Directions were wrong, but the audio worked.
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Some years ago Apple Maps sent me across a cow pasture. That was it for me. My SIL is a fan and when we head off in tandem and she follows Apple Maps while I use Google Maps I consistently arrive earlier and with less stress. YMMV.
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You'll have figured out my solution by now. *grin*
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 23:35, SUSAN DOLAN via groups.io <Audreyddog@...> wrote:
Maps no longer speaks directions even though I have it turned on in Settings. ?Same when I use CarPlay. ?Not sure if the updates to the new iOS screwed things up or not. ?Is anyone else having the same problem? ?Any ideas for a fix? ?I really miss the voice when I’m driving. ?
On more than one occasion, for reasons unknown to me, when I turn on Maps and start my journey, just like you, there's no sound. What I found is that the sound level has been turned all the way down and clicking the increase sound button on the side solves the problem. Give it a try.
Bob
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I sometimes mute the sound or set volume to minimum, then forget that I’ve done it. Is it possible that you’ve done that?
If you have anything in Music, does that play OK?
Otto
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On 7 Nov 2024, at 22:56, Cathy via groups.io <devittad2@...> wrote:
Maps no longer speaks directions even though I have it turned on in Settings. Same when I use CarPlay. Not sure if the updates to the new iOS screwed things up or not. Is anyone else having the same problem? Any ideas for a fix? I really miss the voice when I’m driving.
iPhone XR is completely updated.
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Yes same problem I have 15 pro.?
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On Nov 7, 2024, at 8:48?PM, Cathy via groups.io <devittad2@...> wrote:
? Maps no longer speaks directions even though I have it turned on in Settings. ?Same when I use CarPlay. ?Not sure if the updates to the new iOS screwed things up or not. ?Is anyone else having the same problem? ?Any ideas for a fix? ?I really miss the voice when I’m driving.
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iPhone XR is completely updated.
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