Ralph,
How do you like the motor performance?
Do you have continuous (0%-100%) analog speed control? What did
you do for your mounts and belt drive interfaces?
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I was looking at this pretty closely
.
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TIA for your thoughts
On 3/22/2022 8:47 PM, Ralph Hulslander
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I have the hp motor on
my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
Ralph
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16
PM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you
can use a treadmill motor & controller , that will
give you variable speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
Hi group
?
I have a 5200
LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual
twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago
the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the
rotor.
The axel under
the bearing was very worn, I did something and it
has worked ok until today.
?
A new LMS 4145?
500 Watt Brushless DC motor
will cost me 350/400 USD.
So before I
order, I ask my group :
is it
possible to get a new motor that can replace and
fit to my 5200 lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is
nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have
some experience with this motor or similar , you are
welcome to give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
?
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It's frequently possible to get a free treadmill on bulk trash day! If not, they're usually available cheaply at thrift stores. In addition to the motor & controller, there's usually quite a bit of square tubing & other metal stock for all sorts of projects. I've also gotten quite a bit of useful stuff from discarded motorized exercise bikes.
Roy
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I have the hp motor on my lathe, my mill and my bandsaw and I have a spare.
Ralph
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:16 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable
speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe,
and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist
?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor
make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the
bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok
until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me
350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask
my group :
is it possible to
get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200
lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly
1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some
experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to
give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
?
?
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??? ??? if you don't mind making a new motor mount you can use a
treadmill motor & controller , that will give you variable
speed .
??? ??? animal
On 3/22/2022 3:23 PM, Johannes wrote:
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Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe,
and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist
?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor
make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the
bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok
until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me
350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask
my group :
is it possible to
get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200
lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly
1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some
experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to
give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
?
?
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Yea, I wasn’t sure about that voltage. Thanks for the correct information. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Wood Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:15 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor ? The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors. ? The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions. ? SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard. ? Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934 ? ? ? ? ? I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this: < > ? I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility. ? I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ? ? Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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Hi Chris Nice you are following us on the Group. I have an electrical question: how do you make ?120 V to a 220 V motor?? (Just for education!) ? The 5200 lathe lamps is for 220 V, so it is difficult to read, but easy to fix. To day with my broken motor, I see the FAULT lamp is glowing a littlebit. Can you explain FAULT error ? ? /Johannes ? ? ? ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors. ? The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions. ? SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard. ? Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934 ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor? I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this: < > ? I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility. ? I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ? ? Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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I will take out the rotor from the front side, all cables are going in back. If I am remembering correct, there are some springs on the back part I have to be carefully with. The rotor is a littlebit difficult to drag out, very heavy magnetism The first and last time I open this 5200 LMS motor , I saw the axel was ugly under the bearing. This time I will take some pictures. ? /johannes ? ? ? ? ? ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? So new bearings won't solve the problem?
Can you figure out what's causing the noise?
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The motors used on the LittleMachineShop.com mini lathes and mini mills are 230V motors.
?
The motor on Alibaba is a 48V motor. Besides the voltage being correct, be sure to check the physical dimensions.
?
SIEG makes those motors at their factory in Shanghai so they may not be standard.
?
Chris Wood
The premier source of tooling, parts, and accessories for bench top machinists.
396 W. Washington Blvd. #500, Pasadena, CA 91103
(800)981-9663 * Fax (626)797-7934
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor
?
I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this:
< >
?
I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility.
?
I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS.
?
Michael - California, USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed
?
?
?
?
Hi group
?
I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone.
It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise.
?
Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor.
The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today.
?
A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD.
So before I order, I ask my group :
is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ?
?
350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-)
?
If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice.
?
Best regards
Johannes
Mexico
?
?
?
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I have only a LMS 4700 , so I am collection good advices. ? /johannes ? Sendt fr? for Windows ? ? On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 07:50 PM, Johannes wrote: Also this is nice from Blondihacks
Nice project IF you have a good milling machine. :)
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So new bearings won't solve the problem?
Can you figure out what's causing the noise?
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 07:50 PM, Johannes wrote:
Also this is nice from Blondihacks
Nice project IF you have a good milling machine. :)
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Re: Different Prices - such a range!
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 06:42 AM, Jacques Savard wrote:
Interesting?
Thank
?
Also some other? model? at 700.00
?
Which? is? the best?? buy ??
That 7x14? price is now $700 at Walmart.ca . About the best buy?? I think the Vevor are the 'bottom of the heap' in quality, so hard to tell. I have a 7x14 lathe and I would not be happy with a 7x12 or smaller, so my advice is to get at least 7x14. The best buy would probably be on the local used listings (craigslist, kijiji, etc..) to find a machine from somebody nearby.
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what about parts for the 8x lathes?
David Lang
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2022, j_r_abercrombie via groups.io wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:18 AM, Pierre Geoffrion wrote:
Think; If this thing breaks, is there someone to call? If I need parts,
where do I get them?
I think I'd plan on fixing a mini-lathe myself. A lot of the parts are similar in the different 7x lathes, so I think I could find parts pretty easily from LMS or MicroMark or on eBay or direct from China (AliExpress, Banggood)..
I don't think a warranty is worth much from most companies these days.
Perhaps LMS is the exception?
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I was looking into getting one of these motors for another project a while ago and found this: < > ? I’m not sure if it will work, and I did not buy one yet but thought I’d pass this on to you as a possibility. ? I wasn’t happy with the replacement cost from either Micro-Mark or LMS. ? Michael - California, USA Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16 LMS 3990 Hi-Torque Mill with power feed ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Johannes Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:23 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: [7x12MiniLathe] LMS 5200 Lathe motor ? Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:18 AM, Pierre Geoffrion wrote:
Think; If this thing breaks, is there someone to call? If I need parts, where do I get them?
I think I'd plan on fixing a mini-lathe myself. A lot of the parts are similar in the different 7x lathes, so I think I could find parts pretty easily from LMS or MicroMark or on eBay or direct from China (AliExpress, Banggood).. I don't think a warranty is worth much from most companies these days. Perhaps LMS is the exception?
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Hi group ? I have a 5200 LMS lathe, and I think the motor is gone. It need a manual twist ?to run and the motor make a lot of noise. ? Sometimes ago the motor make a lot of noise, and I took out the rotor. The axel under the bearing was very worn, I did something and it has worked ok until today. ? A new LMS 4145? 500 Watt Brushless DC motor will cost me 350/400 USD. So before I order, I ask my group : is it possible to get a new motor that can replace and fit to my 5200 lathe ? ? 350/400 USD Is nearly 1/3 of a new lathe? :-) ? If someone have some experience with this motor or similar , you are welcome to give me some advice. ? Best regards Johannes Mexico ? ? ?
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When I was in appliance repair; I was constantly asked, "Which is the best appliance?". My reply; "The one you can get service on". Think; If this thing breaks, is there someone to call? If I need parts, where do I get them? Pierre
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Re: Check this out – walmart online shopping vevor lathe - Bing - Shopping
Mike
I have had three such experiences with Walmart vendors in the recent few years and all three were resolved quickly by Walmart Customer Service people who took my call. In all three cases, they quickly refunded my money and told me that they will take over the issue with the vendors related to the shipment. In one case they even asked me to keep the item because it was shipped from a location outside of the US. In the other two cases, they sent me UPS labels for returning the items. The listings were also immediately removed by the CS people.?
I think Walmart or Amazon have a reputation to maintain and as a result, they always tend to side with the buyer than the vendor. I have heard about many similar stories at Amazon CS too. I had only one such experience with Amazon in 2017 which was quickly resolved in my favor.??
Prasad Eastern PA
On Monday, March 21, 2022, 10:23:49 PM EDT, Miket_NYC <mctaglieri@...> wrote:
"Report it as fraud if they refuse."
Report it to whom?
Mike Taglieri?
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 6:57 PM Lonnie Hutchinson < chinacat@...> wrote: Amazon, eBay, Walmart, etc all play this game. The best way to tell
who is selling you an item is to look at who the funds were
transferred to. I don't use Walmart, so can't say for sure, but both
Amazon and eBay process the payments themselves...my card shows a
payment to eBay or Amazon. They do this in order to take their cut of
the sale. I view it as them shooting themselves in the foot because my
financial statement says I purchased an item from eBay/Amazon and when
I talk to their support I am very clear that *they* sold me the item
since *they* took my money, and I have nothing to do with their
contracts with their "vendors". If they try to say they aren't the
seller I respond by asking if they are saying the sale was fraudulent,
since my card says they received the money, and if they didn't sell
the item I will report the charge as fraudulent.
So, if you buy from and they process the payment, don't
let them tell you they aren't the seller...all evidence is that they
are. They do this to try and leave you without recourse for whatever
the problem is. But, legally speaking, if they take your money they
have to deliver the product they sold you. If they ever start
explaining "how it works" say "that's nice, but my credit card says
you sold me the item and I expect you to support that sale". Report it
as fraud if they refuse.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 9:48 AM Bruce J <bruce.desertrat@...> wrote:
>
> Be aware, all, that most things on sale through Walmart.com are done via online only affiliation: ie: Vevor sells their stuff through Walmart’s site passing along a cut to Walmart, much the same way that Amazon works. There is no guarantee of anything by Walmart. They are only providing the marketplace. (this info is in the fine print)
>
> This is not something being sold BY Walmart.
>
> On Mar 21, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Bill Williams <BWMSBLDR1@...> wrote:
>
> There is quite a selection of 7X12 and 7X14 lathes from under $500 and up. I haven’t tried to dig out the specifications as yet but I would start searching with those lathes. The 8X lathes seem to me to be a streched version of the 7X family, increasing capacity without increasing strength or rigidity. Ever run a lathe that has been blocked up to increase the swing? It is the home of chatter!
> The good news here is that Wally World has the economic clout to ensure a reasonable quality and (I believe) the marketing expertise to do so. This may herald a new chapter in story of home model engineering. Stay tuned!? ?Bill in Boulder CO
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> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Ralph Hulslander
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 09:51
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Check this out – walmart online shopping vevor lathe - Bing - Shopping
>
> Bill, do you have one that is of interest? There must be a hundred lathes on that page, some from ebay others from Walmart.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:27 AM Bill Williams <BWMSBLDR1@...> wrote:
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> Check this out fellow campers! If it is from Wally World it has to be real!? ?Bill in Boulder CO
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> walmart online shopping vevor lathe - Bing - Shopping
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> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> --
> Bruce Johnson
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> "Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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Re: Different Prices - such a range-Here is low price on a name brand
Great deal - at least $1500 in lathe and accessories in the picture.
Actually more like about $1650 (metal handwheels) because:
A bit odd - name plate shows it's a 5200 which was a 5100 with metal handwheels on the tailstock and carriage, but also DRO's that are not in evidence.
LMS has be changing model number around lately, 5200 is now 7350 with a third DRO.? ?(Perhaps LMS is confusing me with their numerous model number changes)
Seller must really not have liked it to take a $1000 lost.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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Re: Check this out – walmart online shopping vevor lathe - Bing - Shopping
I couldn't figure out the original message and link - there were many many lathes on that page - but yesterday Walmart Canada had the Vevor 7x14 listed for $510CAD? including shipping. Today it's $700CAD.
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Johannes
