Whew john I am not mad then? , I checked a couple of times on that link, I was interested to see what the programs actually did . Thanks Don ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of John Lindo
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 6:26 p.m.
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Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Tool SW? ? Possibly Ivan has a fix for this. ?
From: Don Leitch <don@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Tool SW ? ? I clicked on the link in your email 3 programs came up. One loaded, the other two said it was a 32 bit program and that I needed the 64 bit. I better check again must be something I missed
Thanks Don,
are you sure you are using the right version?
- Wshop.zip contains Windows PC application (works at my Win7 64)
- Gears.zip and SX2.zip contain small applications with same functionality as previous but for Windows Mobile 6 OS - I am using them at my smart phone
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> Thanks Ivan but 2 of them are 32 bit and wont run on a 64 bit machine.
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> Don
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Hi Don Same problem. Possibly Ivan has a fix for this. John Spain
From: Don Leitch
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Tool SW
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I clicked on the link in your email 3 programs came up. One loaded, the other two said it was a 32 bit program and that I needed the 64 bit. I run win 7 64. I better check again must be something I missed Don ? From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of ivan.marko@...
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 9:28 a.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Tool SW ? ? Thanks Don, are you sure you are using the right version? - Wshop.zip contains Windows PC application (works at my Win7 64) - Gears.zip and SX2.zip contain small applications with same functionality as previous but for Windows Mobile 6 OS - I am using them at my smart phone --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Don Leitch" wrote: > > Thanks Ivan but 2 of them are 32 bit and wont run on a 64 bit machine. > > Don > > >
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Re: grinder wheels - HF 46727
? Apparently Harbor Freight is no longer carrying the big HF 46727
Tool & Carbide grinder, so I looked around the web and found an
old review page that included a picture of it. Located here:
?I'll try to do an "img src=" link directly to their online photo so
people with HTML capable email (or reading messages online) can just
see the machine without clicking the above link:
?If that is your big Tool & Carbide grinder, then Wholesale Tool
has 3 different grits of the Green silicon carbide "Plate Mounted
Cup Wheels", and 1 White Aluminum Wheel, 46-K grit. They don't
include images of the wheels on their website but it seems to me
they used to.(?!). Note that they are rated for 3450 RPM like you
need.
?In any case:
?The White Aluminum Oxide you want for grinding HSS is the bottom of
the list of 4 wheels on that page. $33.99. Perhaps keep a green for
carbide/nonferrous and a white for HSS... 46-K grit is not exactly
fine but that is what they carry. You could call them if you have
any questions. At least $33.99 is a pretty good price, I've seen
higher elsewhere. I doubt these wheels say "Norton" on them or the
sticker shock would be considerably higher. :-)
?If you get one of these, please be sure to let us know how you make
out.
?Cheers,
?John Z.
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Hello
Can anyone tell me where I can find wheels for my harbor
freight 6" tool grinder? Not the regular bench grinder but
the big tool grinder for carbide tools. I want a wheel
that is made for HSS, like the Norton white wheels.
TIA
Robert
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Hello Group,
My name is Lance. I live near Buffalo, NY.
I retired from teaching / admin. in 2000.
I am currently afflicted with old metal disease and travel around the NorthEast and Canada buying early 1900's metal lathes and rebuilding them.
To that end, I wanted a small lathe to make parts for the bigger lathes, like bat handles for a Dalton B4 or odd sized screws for a SBL 9A.
Looking about for viable small lathe options, led me to the HF 7x10, which I have just unboxed. First step appears to be to take it apart for cleaning, lube and adjustment.
I looked in the files section for a folder on set-up tips, but didn't find one.
So, my first question is:
what are your suggestions for initial setup?
How mobile is the mini-lathe once setup?
Can I keep it in a drop-front wooden box and use it from there?
Thanks for the group.
I look forward to learning the tricks on these little machines.
BTW:
I have a 16" SBL , a 9A SBL, a 10" B&L, a 8" Waltham, a 7" Dalton B4, a 3" Guilder, and two Burke 4 mills.
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Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
It is the size of the motor compartment.? The 14 inch kit has room for a 350 watt? conventional motor, while the 16 inch kit is sized for the more compact stepper motor used in the Hi Torque lathes.? In addition, the bolt hole spacing for the headstock appears different. Interestingly, the longer bed weighs 2 pounds LESS than the 14 inch bed!? ?Probably because of the smaller motor compartment. ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95? ? I believe it has something to do with the 16 inch bed being designed for use with a BLDC (Brushless Direct Current) motor which drives the spindle directly via a belt. The only SIEG lathes that I know of that have this arrangement are the Micromark 7x16 and the LMS Hi-Torque 7x12. The lathes that use the HI/LO gear arrangement are setup to drive the counter shaft with the HI/LO shift gear. I'm sure it could probably be made to work with the HI/LO gear HS (Head Stock) but it might be more work that it is worth. I seem to remember something about the motor mount being different also. Chris at LMS might have other reasons as to why it won't work or at least why it is not recommended.
Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Lamson, Greg
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:26 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95 ? Why will the 16” bed extension not work with other 7X lathes? Are the ways of a different dimension than the HF & Grizzly? ? Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95 This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe. It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan. NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
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Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
Thank you HWF... I will.
? ?  Steve Langford
From: harpanet13
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed,
February 13, 2013 5:07:14 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Steve Langford wrote:
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> Hello...
> I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
> Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
> Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the
> existing bed?
>
You might find this group of interest :
It is pretty much dead unfortunately but there is still quite a bit of info to be had.
HWF
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chuck or a part mounted on the lathe.It it is generally measured with a DI (Dial Indicator) or DTI ( Dial test indicator).
Gerry W
Leeds UK And there's an man who knows how to write. The correct ways is to at the first use of an abbreviation is to put the expanded form in brackets after it, as he's done for DI & DTI. This helps newbies how have never seen it, and old codgers from other fields who misread it as something else. Tony
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Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
If I were to do I would have to have both beds faced where they meet clamp them to the underside of a piece of RR track, Nickel weld after pre-heating. The lead screw had me stumped. If I had the specs on the thread I might find one on ebay... OR...Change out the half-nut with a ?common thread 1/2-16 etc... Just a thought....
? ? Steve Langford
From: Mark Schwiebert To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:22:30 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
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Steve;
You can pick up a used bed,and lead screw on here,and,if you bolt both beds down,and line them up ,you can add another 16 in.
Lead screws can be joined by turning a lap joint,and pin it.
Someone just had a bed for sale on here,and did not know if it sold.
Just ask the group if interested.
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--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Steve Langford wrote:
From: Steve Langford
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 3:57 PM
?
Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the existing bed?
I had thought it could be done with exception of a longer lead screw...
Can this lead screw material be bought in bulk?
Does anyone know the thread pitch of the Harbor Freight 7X10 lead screw?
I have had my lathe for 3 years now for building small IC engines and general turning...
I usually buy my stock in 12" lengths and a longer bed would be helpful...
?
? Steve Langford
From: Michael Jablonski To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 11:40:15 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
?
Just a heads up. LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for $99.95
?
This is only for their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
?
It includes a bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
?
NOT a bolt on kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed casting.
?
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I have the 7X10 also... A little more length would allow a full 2" od. aluminum round bar 12" long to be chucked up to turn out 5 small cylinders with cooling fins all at one time... I ?cut down a hot water tank to make a smelting furnace to melt and cast aluminum. The burner is done, regulator (40psi.) with lo side press gauge, and steel braided supply hose. May attempt to cast a crankcase 4.5dia. with green sand....Turn it down on the lathe... I need to attach my turn table horizonally to the cross slide to index the side of the crank case slug using a fly cutter to face off a pentagon. I purchased a 5" 4 jaw just to turn large cylinders. I'de give my left monkey wrench to own a larger mill that I could set up to
mill a 12" dia. crank case set-up on a 10" table with tailstock. ?It will use the heads, cylinders and pistons from the 4A084 military surplus engine (flat 4 aircooled) ?looks like a little VW engine. ....Dreaming..... ? ? Steve Langford
From: onebikenut
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 7:50:54 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Extension Project
?
A recent thread reminded my why I didn't throw away the old bed when I converted the 7x10 into a 7x14. A couple years ago I saw where a guy had used his old bed from a similar upgrade as a place to park his tailstock when he needed to get it out of the way. He did a decent hack job, but it was still a hack job, and that was all he used it for. A parking pad.
Lets be realistic. We can get some modestly precise work out of a 7 x XX mini lathe but its not a super duper precision instrument. Why not do a little work (as was suggested in another recent thread) to actually make a fully longer lathe out of the assembley. Atleast for rough and low tolerance work. I've had this thought before, but for the most part I need to make some pretty short parts. I don't even use the full capacity of the 8.5 x 18 very often.
Still, once in a while...
Well, I have been working on a non-lathe related project the last few days. (Actually since November 2010). Converting a Hurco KMB1 over to Mach 3 control. I finally ran all three axis on the computer two days ago. I still need to get the automatic oiler hooked up, connect the limits, build my console, connect the VFD to the spindle... etc etc... You get the idea.
When I read the recent thread on extending a machine using an old bed I thought this might be a perfect project for the newly working mill. Use the bed to get everything lined up, and machine some sort of interface to join the two beds modestly accurately. Since I plan to convert the mini over to CNC anyway the lead screw is a non issue. I have some long acmes and some acme taps if I want to go cheap, or I can just use one of those long ballscrews I had planned for a big bed gantry router.
If I go to a servo spindle it could douple as a 4th axis on the big mill too, although with two beds strung together it might start to get a bit heavy to pick up and set on the table. LOL.
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I got my stones at Wholesale Tool in Tampa
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Regards Robert now in Live Oak, Florida?
From: Robert
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] grinder wheels
?
Hello
Can anyone tell me where I can find wheels for my harbor freight 6" tool grinder? Not the regular bench grinder but the big tool grinder for carbide tools. I want a wheel that is made for HSS, like the Norton white wheels.
TIA
Robert
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A recent thread reminded my why I didn't throw away the old bed when I converted the 7x10 into a 7x14. A couple years ago I saw where a guy had used his old bed from a similar upgrade as a place to park his tailstock when he needed to get it out of the way. He did a decent hack job, but it was still a hack job, and that was all he used it for. A parking pad.
Lets be realistic. We can get some modestly precise work out of a 7 x XX mini lathe but its not a super duper precision instrument. Why not do a little work (as was suggested in another recent thread) to actually make a fully longer lathe out of the assembley. Atleast for rough and low tolerance work. I've had this thought before, but for the most part I need to make some pretty short parts. I don't even use the full capacity of the 8.5 x 18 very often.
Still, once in a while...
Well, I have been working on a non-lathe related project the last few days. (Actually since November 2010). Converting a Hurco KMB1 over to Mach 3 control. I finally ran all three axis on the computer two days ago. I still need to get the automatic oiler hooked up, connect the limits, build my console, connect the VFD to the spindle... etc etc... You get the idea.
When I read the recent thread on extending a machine using an old bed I thought this might be a perfect project for the newly working mill. Use the bed to get everything lined up, and machine some sort of interface to join the two beds modestly accurately. Since I plan to convert the mini over to CNC anyway the lead screw is a non issue. I have some long acmes and some acme taps if I want to go cheap, or I can just use one of those long ballscrews I had planned for a big bed gantry router.
If I go to a servo spindle it could douple as a 4th axis on the big mill too, although with two beds strung together it might start to get a bit heavy to pick up and set on the table. LOL.
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Hello
Can anyone tell me where I can find wheels for my harbor freight 6" tool grinder? Not the regular bench grinder but the big tool grinder for carbide tools. I want a wheel that is made for HSS, like the Norton white wheels.
TIA
Robert
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Hey Guys now that's just showing off?! ? When writing a technical document as I have had to in the past you generally introduce the TLA (Three letter Acronym) or some other such abbreviation at the start of the document and then proceed using the abbreviation without limit after that. Other documents use a key or addendum at the back giving the reader some chance to decipher the code/abbreviation. ? Seems like a good idea to me? ? John Kiely (IRL) Ireland? : )
From: aalloway To: 7x12minilathe@... Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: Abbreviations
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Allen
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:23
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Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re:
Abbreviations
I don't think we realise just how important
abreviations can be. Don hit the nail on the head with his reference to
amateur radio.
Imagine sending this?longhand by radio using
Morse code.
?
"Calling ZL1ATB in New?Zealand?from
MM5PSL in Scotland
I acknowledge receipt of your last transmission.
Your signals are as follows. Readability 5, Signal strength 9 and Tone 9. Best
wishes and good luck."
?
That's a lot of Morse code when it can be sent abreviated like
this:
? "ZL1ATB
De?MM5PSL
QSL UR RST599. 73 es GL"
?
Off topic perhaps, but it does illustrate how we are expected to learn
abreviations and jargon if we want?to progress quickly in
a?particular field.
?
Peter
Shetland Islands
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Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Steve Langford wrote:
Hello...
I am a new member here and I have the HF 7x10...
Was a member at the 7X10 group but they talk about politics there...
Has anyone taken the bed extension for the 7X10 and extended by adding to the
existing bed?
You might find this group of interest : It is pretty much dead unfortunately but there is still quite a bit of info to be had. HWF
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Only one of them (wshop.exe) runs on my 64bit win7 system! Thank you anyway. It is good to share efforts & knowledge Petros --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "ivan.marko@..." wrote:
Hi to all.
I would like to share the software that I have developed for my X2 mill dial and lathe gear calculation.
There are versions for Win an Win mobile.
Fell free to use them, comment and share!
Cheers,
Ivan
[URL= ]download youtube[/URL]
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Several persons responded to my questions, both here in the group and
directly to me. I've had my gear questions answered and more than I was
expecting on gearboxes.
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The gearbox article I had been looking for is the one by Richard
Hagenbuch.
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The one by SwarfRat is ismilar and adds the electric drive to the leadscrew
for finer feeds.
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The one by Marcus Loignon is quite recent, purely pictorial at the present
time but includes photos which show that he's actually building a gearbox.
?
I thank each of you who responded and the group at large. You've been a
great help.
?
Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.
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(PST),?kaje7777 writes:
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I clicked on the link in your email 3 programs came up. One loaded, the other two said it was a 32 bit program and that I needed the 64 bit. I run win 7 64. I better check again must be something I missed Don ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of ivan.marko@...
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 9:28 a.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Tool SW? ?
Thanks Don,
are you sure you are using the right version?
- Wshop.zip contains Windows PC application (works at my Win7 64)
- Gears.zip and SX2.zip contain small applications with same functionality as previous but for Windows Mobile 6 OS - I am using them at my smart phone
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Don Leitch" wrote:
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> Thanks Ivan but 2 of them are 32 bit and wont run on a 64 bit machine.
>
> Don
>
>
>
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No, they are not abbreviations, they're contractions.
And as a suggestion, if abbreviations are necessary or appropriate, just
spell it out the first time it's used.
Carl Lantz
At 10:12 AM 2/13/2013, you wrote:
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On 02/13/2013 05:13 AM, Andy
wrote:
Would it be possible for
abbreviations to not be used? As this is a forum for old timers and
newbies, there are many of us who don?�?t know what these abbreviations
stand for. It doesn?�?t take more than a few seconds to type the full
name, and it would help greatly in understanding what you?�?re talking
about.
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But "don't" and "you're" are abbreviations!??
:)
ok, I'll go stand in the corner.
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
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Re: LMS Bed Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
I
believe it has something to do with the 16 inch bed being designed for use with
a BLDC (Brushless Direct Current) motor which drives the spindle directly via a
belt. The only SIEG lathes that I know of that have this arrangement are the
Micromark 7x16 and the LMS Hi-Torque 7x12. The lathes that use the HI/LO gear
arrangement are setup to drive the counter shaft with the HI/LO shift gear.
?
I'm
sure it could probably be made to work with the HI/LO gear HS (Head Stock) but
it might be more work that it is worth.
?
I seem
to remember something about the motor mount being different
also.
?
Chris
at LMS might have other reasons as to why it won't work or at least why it is
not recommended.
Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux
7x16
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Why will the
16” bed extension not work with other 7X lathes? Are the ways of a different
dimension than the HF & Grizzly?
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael
Jablonski
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:40 AM
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] LMS Bed
Extension Kit, HiTorque 16" $99.95
?
Just a heads up.
LMS has their 16 inch bed extension kit on sale for
$99.95
This is only for
their LMS 7x12 HiTorque lathe.
It includes a
bed casting, a lead screw, a rack, a chip pan.
NOT a bolt on
kit. It requires you to drill and tap 10 holes in the new bed
casting.
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 10:24 a.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Abbreviations? ? I don't think we realise just how important abreviations can be. Don hit the nail on the head with his reference to amateur radio. Imagine sending this?longhand by radio using Morse code. "Calling ZL1ATB in New?Zealand?from MM5PSL in Scotland I acknowledge receipt of your last transmission. Your signals are as follows. Readability 5, Signal strength 9 and Tone 9. Best wishes and good luck." That's a lot of Morse code when it can be sent abreviated like this: "ZL1ATB De?MM5PSL Off topic perhaps, but it does illustrate how we are expected to learn abreviations and jargon if we want?to progress quickly in a?particular field.
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