Re: Sailing Single Handed
I think doing a practice is very wise.? In ?my case the previous owner had done a wonderful varnish job on the centreplate which made it really tricky to stand on, slipped off a few times. ?Also - nice and gentle on the centre board as there were some ominous cracking sounds (possibly from the centreboard case which has now been reinforced with biaxial cloth and west system epoxy). I got in over the transom but it was a major physical effort inspired by panic. Frightened man with a bucket works well for bailing but the whole thing was pretty knackering and I needed a half hour to recover by which time I was quite cold. THEREFORE - anything that prepares you for the physical and psychological shock of a capsize is a very good thing.?
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? Hi all, ? Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer? ? Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared. ? Mine is a Hartly boats 2009. ? (Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!) ? Many thanks, ? ? Peter W1604 ? Sent from??for Windows ?
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Thanks Terry.? That's really helpful.? I will look into those fasteners and see if they will fit.
Regards
Shirley W1301
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From: Terry Pullen via groups.io <tpullen152@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 0:26
Subject: Re: [wanderer] Locker fitting
Hello Shirley
Ignore my earlier reply - I misread your description of the catch.
I've had another look and found this catch which is very similar to the screw down catches for the aft locker adjacent to the transom.
These are available in Brass and Chromed but not stainless steel.
From a corrosion point of view Brass would be a better solution than chromed steel and is not too different in price.
Apologies for the confusion.
Regards
Terry Pullen W863
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Hello Shirley
Ignore my earlier reply - I misread your description of the catch.
I've had another look and found this catch which is very similar to the screw down catches for the aft locker adjacent to the transom.
These are available in Brass and Chromed but not stainless steel.
From a corrosion point of view Brass would be a better solution than chromed steel and is not too different in price.
Apologies for the confusion.
Regards
Terry Pullen W863
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Hello Shirley
I did a quick online search of a few chandlers and found similar catches but not exactley the same as fitted to the Wanderer's aft locker and none in stainless steel.
One or two of these look promising in chrome, brass or aluminimum.
Any way here are the links to the various catches:-
Hope ther is something among these that you might consider a reasonable swap.
Regards
Terry Pullen W863
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Re: Sailing Single Handed
Hi all,
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John Renouf kindly suggested a helpful aid to getting back in the boat after a capsize (see below). Which involved having a length rope? with a loop in it to provide a “step”. One or two people have also mentioned something like this to
me in the past.
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I wonder if others have used a method like this. After capsizing at the weekend the most difficult part for me was not so much righting the boat (It came back up OK) but, climbing onto the centre board in the first place and then once righted
climbing into the boat. So I am thinking about trying an arrangement like this to ease the process, but am wondering how exactly this would work.
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So in a standard capsize to the leeward, presumably the rope would fall down on the inside and not on windward side where the centre board is and where it is needed?
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Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Peter
W1604
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From: John Renouf
Sent: 26 April 2022 19:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [wanderer] Sailing Single Handed
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I did it once with my Anglo boat and had no issues though she come upright with a lot of water in so wallows about and is a bit unstable. I don’t use righting lines but I carry a short length of rope: about 2metres or so, tied at one end
to the aft toe step bracket with a loop in the free end. The idea is that in a capsize it falls over the side of the boat and gives something to hang on to once the boat is upright. The loop provides a “step” to help climbing aboard. That’s the theory but
it’s yet to be put to the test!
W1518
On 26 Apr 2022, at 14:00, PeteS via groups.io <pete.sheppard09@...> wrote:
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I always sail on my own and found righting of my Anglo marine boat was fine, she came up easy with me pulling on the centreplate. I have the steel plate conversion which
may have helped a little, and I've seen boats with righting lines rigged to help but found I didn't need them. She sat pretty deep in the water so getting back in was easy enough too.
I was also pleasantly surprised how quickly the self bailers got her dry again !
On Tuesday, 26 April 2022, 13:53:56 BST, Peter Mills <peter_mills@...> wrote:
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Hi all,
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Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer?
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Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and
want to be prepared.
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Mine is a Hartly boats 2009.
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(Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!)
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Many thanks,
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Peter
W1604
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One of the fittings at the rear of our Wanderer's locker has sheared off - it is a piece of L-shaped metal, attached to the locker with a U-shaped notch, which clips under an adjustable screw that is fixed to the deck just behind the transom.? We have looked online and can't find anything that resembles it.? Does anyone know where a replacement might be found?
Shirley (W1301)
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Intresting, many thanks ?
John :-)?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Jonathan Daniel via groups.io" <jdaniel1000@...> Date: 01/05/2022 18:46 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Re: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
Just my thoughts on gelcoat...
Auto Glym Super Resin polish (red label) is good for restoring the colour and shine. However it's a very fine cutting polish so it takes a bit of work to get the shine back. That said,? you don't run the risk of taking off too much of the gel coat like you do with wet-and dry paper of t-cut etc. Ideal solution is to use an electric polisher and save your arms! Also so long as there's no contamination you don't get any swirl marks in it. Regarding waxing the hull, this really does preserve the shine by blocking UV, but you'll need to keep adding a coat now and then. The other disadvantage is that because the UV breaks down the wax instead of the gelcoat, expect to have to keep wiping off the fine white polish residue that will keep appearing as the wax degrades.
Or a totally different approach is to use a vinyl wrap. My Wanderer 910 was in poor shape when I bought it and the gelcoat was never going to polish up well. Also I wanted to change the colour. Photo below shows the wrap 5 years in. There's a little fade below the cover but it's all still sound. And in a couple of years I'll peel it and change the colour again!
Jonathan Daniel
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 23:49:00 BST, Mark Allinson via groups.io <m.allinson2@...> wrote:
Farecla G 3 rubbing compound works well but the problem returns after a year or two. Im told the trick is to get a really good uv barrier wax. Or a bigger cover Mark Allinson On 28 Apr 2022, at 14:15, johnbohn01 <Johnbohn01@...> wrote:
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
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Just my thoughts on gelcoat...
Auto Glym Super Resin polish (red label) is good for restoring the colour and shine. However it's a very fine cutting polish so it takes a bit of work to get the shine back. That said,? you don't run the risk of taking off too much of the gel coat like you do with wet-and dry paper of t-cut etc. Ideal solution is to use an electric polisher and save your arms! Also so long as there's no contamination you don't get any swirl marks in it. Regarding waxing the hull, this really does preserve the shine by blocking UV, but you'll need to keep adding a coat now and then. The other disadvantage is that because the UV breaks down the wax instead of the gelcoat, expect to have to keep wiping off the fine white polish residue that will keep appearing as the wax degrades.
Or a totally different approach is to use a vinyl wrap. My Wanderer 910 was in poor shape when I bought it and the gelcoat was never going to polish up well. Also I wanted to change the colour. Photo below shows the wrap 5 years in. There's a little fade below the cover but it's all still sound. And in a couple of years I'll peel it and change the colour again!
Jonathan Daniel
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 23:49:00 BST, Mark Allinson via groups.io <m.allinson2@...> wrote:
Farecla G 3 rubbing compound works well but the problem returns after a year or two. Im told the trick is to get a really good uv barrier wax. Or a bigger cover Mark Allinson On 28 Apr 2022, at 14:15, johnbohn01 <Johnbohn01@...> wrote:
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
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My wanderer had the crimson hull and suffered the same problem. I tried loads of different products, including Polytrol, with varying degrees of success but the shine never lasted. I eventually had the whole hull resprayed then polished and waxed. It looked amazing. I bought a new cover with a 'skirt' to fully cover the hull and protect against UV. When I sold the boat a few years later she still looked 'as new'!
Stephen Ex W1318
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On 28 Apr 2022 23:48, "Mark Allinson via groups.io" <m.allinson2@...> wrote: Farecla G 3 rubbing compound works well but the problem returns after a year or two. Im told the trick is to get a really good uv barrier wax. Or a bigger cover Mark Allinson On 28 Apr 2022, at 14:15, johnbohn01 <Johnbohn01@...> wrote:
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Yes Thanks James Mark Allinson
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On 28 Apr 2022, at 14:49, johnbohn01 <Johnbohn01@...> wrote:
? That's great, really helpful, thanks James ?
John :-)?
-------- Original message -------- From: "James M (W1668)" <jrbmyers18@...> Date: 28/04/2022 15:41 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Re: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
Not sure if this is over the top, but this video shows you how
James 1668
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Farecla G 3 rubbing compound works well but the problem returns after a year or two. Im told the trick is to get a really good uv barrier wax. Or a bigger cover Mark Allinson
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On 28 Apr 2022, at 14:15, johnbohn01 <Johnbohn01@...> wrote:
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Colour matching and mixing is so sophisticated nowadays it shouldn't be a problem to get a perfect match Mark Allinson
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On 28 Apr 2022, at 11:40, Neil Chapman <nhchapman@...> wrote:
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I need to make some repairs to the gelcoat on Anglo Marine no 579, and I'd like to match the colour as closely as possible. I can remember in the past seeing something on the old discussion group, or on the website about someone being able to match gelocat colour to boat number. I know I'm old and forgetful, but am I also making up memories?
The hull colour is white-ish/ivory. I'm sure it has changed colour over it's 35 year lifetime so I'm quite prepared to make my own match, but I'd like to know if I can establish what the original colour was.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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I'd be really nervous about going at it with sandpaper. I'll definitely start with the compound, but gently.?
I'm only doing as sadly I'm looking to sell my wanderer ??
John :-)?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "PeteS via groups.io" <pete.sheppard09@...> Date: 28/04/2022 15:50 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Re: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
I do pretty much that, but I'd personally only ever wet sand the gel as I find it gives a better finish and mops out easier
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 14:42:01 BST, James M (W1668) <jrbmyers18@...> wrote:
Not sure if this is over the top, but this video shows you how
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
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I do pretty much that, but I'd personally only ever wet sand the gel as I find it gives a better finish and mops out easier
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 14:42:01 BST, James M (W1668) <jrbmyers18@...> wrote:
Not sure if this is over the top, but this video shows you how
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
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That's great, really helpful, thanks James ?
John :-)?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "James M (W1668)" <jrbmyers18@...> Date: 28/04/2022 15:41 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Re: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
Not sure if this is over the top, but this video shows you how
James 1668
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Not sure if this is over the top, but this video shows you how
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Many thanks Pete, I'll follow that up.?
John :-)?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "PeteS via groups.io" <pete.sheppard09@...> Date: 28/04/2022 15:26 (GMT+01:00) Subject: Re: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
Hi John
I use Faracela G3 with a soft foam polishing mop head at a fairly slow speed on my orange hull, just keep it nice and wet when cutting it back. She was very poor when I got her so I used a 1200 wet sand 1st but just the compound since
regards
Pete
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 14:15:50 BST, johnbohn01 <johnbohn01@...> wrote:
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Hi John
I use Faracela G3 with a soft foam polishing mop head at a fairly slow speed on my orange hull, just keep it nice and wet when cutting it back. She was very poor when I got her so I used a 1200 wet sand 1st but just the compound since
regards
Pete
On Thursday, 28 April 2022, 14:15:50 BST, johnbohn01 <johnbohn01@...> wrote:
Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Hi
Talking about gel coats, has anybody any recommendations for a product to remove the white bloom that has developed on my cherry red hull.?
Very many thanks?
Best wishes to all
John :-)?
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Neil,
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I recommend you contact Ian Porter whose firm took over the manufacturing licence for the Wanderer from Anglo Marine.
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I am sure he has experience of the ivory colour.
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Ian’s mobile is 07971 799602.
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Cheers.
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Philip Meadowcroft
W1541? Black Mischief
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Neil Chapman
Sent: 28 April 2022 11:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: [wanderer] Gel coat colours
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Hello
I need to make some repairs to the gelcoat on Anglo Marine no 579, and I'd like to match the colour as closely as possible. I can remember in the past seeing something on the old discussion group, or on the website about someone being able to match gelocat
colour to boat number. I know I'm old and forgetful, but am I also making up memories?
The hull colour is white-ish/ivory. I'm sure it has changed colour over it's 35 year lifetime so I'm quite prepared to make my own match, but I'd like to know if I can establish what the original colour was.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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