Hello
I need to make some repairs to the gelcoat on Anglo Marine no 579, and I'd like to match the colour as closely as possible. I can remember in the past seeing something on the old discussion group, or on the website about someone being able to match gelocat colour to boat number. I know I'm old and forgetful, but am I also making up memories?
The hull colour is white-ish/ivory. I'm sure it has changed colour over it's 35 year lifetime so I'm quite prepared to make my own match, but I'd like to know if I can establish what the original colour was.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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Hi Mike
I may be able to assist
Please text me on 07802 259882
Regards
David Hewett
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From: "mbellew via groups.io" <mbellew@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 25 Apr, 22 At 08:56
Subject: [wanderer] Wanderer tiller
Following a windy weekend at West Oxfordshire my tiller is now at the bottom of the lake! Rather against the odds, plan A is to find and retrieve it, and I now know that people don't trust the rudder rope to keep the components together and add various clips and pins. So what of plan B: my boat is from Anglo Marine in 1987 and the tiller was a u-section metal one that slid on to the rudder. Who made it? I fear it's obsolete and Ian Porter's website suggests “expensive special order”. Is there any hope of replacing it at reasonable cost? The other choice will be to modify the assembly to suit: take the slider fitting off the top of the rudder and replace with capping socket to take a conventional tubular tiller. Has anybody done this? Advice gratefully received.
Mike Bellew
W676
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Hi Mike, another option is to make a hardwood tiller the right width, then get some aluminium angle. Cut one side of the angle the width to fit in the groove and screw the other side to the side of the wooden tiller. Repeat for the other side. That way you can still slide the tiller in and out of the rudder head. It needs to be made accurately though to reduce play. Then remove the fittings etc from the old tiller and re-use. Not ideal but it may be your easiest and cheapest option. I have a lifting tiller on mine which allows access to the rear compartment, but that option requires removal of the rear traveller track. If you want to go down that route let me know and I'll send photos. Hope you managed to get it sorted either way.
Jonathan Daniel
On Wednesday, 27 April 2022, 12:55:52 BST, Anna Knight via groups.io <aknight283@...> wrote:
Hi Mike I hope you don’t grieve too long over the loss of your beautiful original Anglo Marine tiller. I’m still sorry that I lost mine when I part- exchanged W683 for W1576? However, although I don’t love the stick it has definitely made single handed sailing in windy weather safer.? (Always looking for W683. If anyone knows where she is please tell me!) Anna W1576?
On 27 Apr 2022, at 12:08, mbellew via groups.io <mbellew@...> wrote:
? Following a windy weekend at West Oxfordshire my tiller is now at the bottom of the lake!
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Rather against the odds, plan A is to find and retrieve it, and I now know that people don't trust the rudder rope to keep the components together and add various clips and pins.
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So what of plan B: my boat is from Anglo Marine in 1987 and the tiller was a u-section metal one that slid on to the rudder. Who made it? I fear it's obsolete and Ian Porter's website suggests “expensive special order”. Is there any hope of replacing it at reasonable cost?
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The other choice will be to modify the assembly to suit: take the slider fitting off the top of the rudder and replace with capping socket to take a conventional tubular tiller. Has anybody done this?
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Advice gratefully received.
Mike Bellew
W676
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WandererWest- Class Association sailing in Cornwall
Hello all
Don’t forget to sign up for WandererWest. This friendly sailing event is based near Mylor in the Fal Estuary.
Details are on the Class Association website.?
Do come if you can. There are a few spaces left for campers and also for day visitors.
A great place to sail with the comfort of sailing in a group.
John (1646)
-- John 1646
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Hi Mike I hope you don’t grieve too long over the loss of your beautiful original Anglo Marine tiller. I’m still sorry that I lost mine when I part- exchanged W683 for W1576? However, although I don’t love the stick it has definitely made single handed sailing in windy weather safer.? (Always looking for W683. If anyone knows where she is please tell me!) Anna W1576?
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On 27 Apr 2022, at 12:08, mbellew via groups.io <mbellew@...> wrote:
? Following a windy weekend at West Oxfordshire my tiller is now at the bottom of the lake!
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Rather against the odds, plan A is to find and retrieve it, and I now know that people don't trust the rudder rope to keep the components together and add various clips and pins.
?
So what of plan B: my boat is from Anglo Marine in 1987 and the tiller was a u-section metal one that slid on to the rudder. Who made it? I fear it's obsolete and Ian Porter's website suggests “expensive special order”. Is there any hope of replacing it at reasonable cost?
?
The other choice will be to modify the assembly to suit: take the slider fitting off the top of the rudder and replace with capping socket to take a conventional tubular tiller. Has anybody done this?
?
Advice gratefully received.
Mike Bellew
W676
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I fear its a common problem Mike as my otherwise immaculate Wanderer 914 came with a handsome wooden tiller which has worked perfectly for the last 7 years.
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On 25 Apr 2022, at 08:56, mbellew via < mbellew@...> wrote:
Following a windy weekend at West Oxfordshire my tiller is now at the bottom of the lake! ?
Rather against the odds, plan A is to find and retrieve it, and I now know that people don't trust the rudder rope to keep the components together and add various clips and pins. ?
So what of plan B: my boat is from Anglo Marine in 1987 and the tiller was a u-section metal one that slid on to the rudder. Who made it? I fear it's obsolete and Ian Porter's website suggests “expensive special order”. Is there any hope of replacing it at reasonable cost? ?
The other choice will be to modify the assembly to suit: take the slider fitting off the top of the rudder and replace with capping socket to take a conventional tubular tiller. Has anybody done this? ?
Advice gratefully received.
Mike Bellew
W676
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Following a windy weekend at West Oxfordshire my tiller is now at the bottom of the lake!
?
Rather against the odds, plan A is to find and retrieve it, and I now know that people don't trust the rudder rope to keep the components together and add various clips and pins.
?
So what of plan B: my boat is from Anglo Marine in 1987 and the tiller was a u-section metal one that slid on to the rudder. Who made it? I fear it's obsolete and Ian Porter's website suggests “expensive special order”. Is there any hope of replacing it at reasonable cost?
?
The other choice will be to modify the assembly to suit: take the slider fitting off the top of the rudder and replace with capping socket to take a conventional tubular tiller. Has anybody done this?
?
Advice gratefully received.
Mike Bellew
W676
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Re: Sailing Single Handed
I did it once with my Anglo boat and had no issues though she come upright with a lot of water in so wallows about and is a bit unstable. I don’t use righting lines but I carry a short length of rope: about 2metres or so, tied at one end to the aft toe step bracket with a loop in the free end. The idea is that in a capsize it falls over the side of the boat and gives something to hang on to once the boat is upright. The loop provides a “step” to help climbing aboard. That’s the theory but it’s yet to be put to the test!
Regards?
John R
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On 26 Apr 2022, at 14:00, PeteS via groups.io <pete.sheppard09@...> wrote:
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Hi Peter
I always sail on my own and found righting of my Anglo marine boat was fine, she came up easy with me pulling on the centreplate. I have the steel plate conversion which may have helped a little, and I've seen boats with righting lines rigged to help but found I didn't need them. She sat pretty deep in the water so getting back in was easy enough too.
I was also pleasantly surprised how quickly the self bailers got her dry again !
regards
Pete
On Tuesday, 26 April 2022, 13:53:56 BST, Peter Mills <peter_mills@...> wrote:
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Hi all,
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Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer?
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Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared.
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Mine is a Hartly boats 2009.
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(Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!)
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Many thanks,
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Peter
W1604
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Re: Sailing Single Handed
Hi Peter
I always sail on my own and found righting of my Anglo marine boat was fine, she came up easy with me pulling on the centreplate. I have the steel plate conversion which may have helped a little, and I've seen boats with righting lines rigged to help but found I didn't need them. She sat pretty deep in the water so getting back in was easy enough too.
I was also pleasantly surprised how quickly the self bailers got her dry again !
regards
Pete
On Tuesday, 26 April 2022, 13:53:56 BST, Peter Mills <peter_mills@...> wrote:
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Hi all,
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Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer?
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Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared.
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Mine is a Hartly boats 2009.
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(Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!)
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Many thanks,
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Peter
W1604
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Sent from for Windows
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Hi all,
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Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer?
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Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared.
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Mine is a Hartly boats 2009.
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(Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!)
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Many thanks,
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Peter
W1604
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Thanks Mike and Douglas.
I don't think it will be the deck cleat as that still wouldn't get into the bouyancy tank - just fill up the bottom of the hull. Mast base is a distinct possibility, any rain on the mast runs right under the cover there so could be finding its way in. I suppose even a slight trickle over a week would end up with a lot of water.
Any idea if the side buoyancy tanks are connected to the front one? If so that would explain why there's water in there too! Otherwise I've got 3 leaks to track down!
Thank you for your help.
Jonathan Daniel
On Sunday, 24 April 2022, 18:48:50 BST, Mike Hamilton <hamilton.w992@...> wrote:
Hi Jonathan Check the GRP under and around the mast step and check that the screws are a good fit.? Any rain water collecting in this area can leak through directly to the buoyancy tank. Regards Mike Hamilton W992?
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 17:25, Jonathan Daniel via <jdaniel1000= [email protected]> wrote: Hi all, I'm still having an issue with water getting in to the front bouyancy compartment. I've checked all the keelband screws and re-sealed them but it's still filling up. After some wild weather today it had loads in it. But with the hull dry afterwards nothing is coming back out. Anyone have any idea how the water is still getting in?
I also found water in the side tanks. My old boat is a pre-MD conversion but I have inspection hatches at the rear of the side tanks. Does anyone know if these are connected to the front compartment hence water getting in there, or are these leaking themselves somewhere??
As usual, any advice very gratefully appreciated.
Jonathan Daniel
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Hi Jonathan Check the GRP under and around the mast step and check that the screws are a good fit.? Any rain water collecting in this area can leak through directly to the buoyancy tank. Regards Mike Hamilton W992?
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 17:25, Jonathan Daniel via <jdaniel1000= [email protected]> wrote: Hi all, I'm still having an issue with water getting in to the front bouyancy compartment. I've checked all the keelband screws and re-sealed them but it's still filling up. After some wild weather today it had loads in it. But with the hull dry afterwards nothing is coming back out. Anyone have any idea how the water is still getting in?
I also found water in the side tanks. My old boat is a pre-MD conversion but I have inspection hatches at the rear of the side tanks. Does anyone know if these are connected to the front compartment hence water getting in there, or are these leaking themselves somewhere??
As usual, any advice very gratefully appreciated.
Jonathan Daniel
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It is often worth looking up rather than down? You said that there was water ingress when it was raining. If you have a mooring cleat or any other fixing in the foredeck it is worth checking these.Use a hose on particular places.You can lay newspaper prior to wetting the fore deck,damp patches may give you an idea of leak area.
Doug
Hi Jonathan,
On 23/04/2022 17:28, Jonathan Daniel
via wrote:
Hi all, I'm still having an
issue with water getting in to the front bouyancy compartment.
I've checked all the keelband screws and re-sealed them but
it's still filling up. After some wild weather today it had
loads in it. But with the hull dry afterwards nothing is
coming back out. Anyone have any idea how the water is still
getting in?
I also found water in the
side tanks. My old boat is a pre-MD conversion but I have
inspection hatches at the rear of the side tanks. Does anyone
know if these are connected to the front compartment hence
water getting in there, or are these leaking themselves
somewhere?
The front tank is connected to the side tanks - it is all one big
tank.
On mine there were cracks on the floor that were letting water
through into the tank - especially on the port side where there
wasn't much adhesive holding everything together. If you can see
any cracks in the tank molding then worth grinding back a bit for
adhesion and putting some epoxy and tape over the top.
Cheers
Martin
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Hi Jonathan,
On 23/04/2022 17:28, Jonathan Daniel
via groups.io wrote:
Hi all, I'm still having an
issue with water getting in to the front bouyancy compartment.
I've checked all the keelband screws and re-sealed them but
it's still filling up. After some wild weather today it had
loads in it. But with the hull dry afterwards nothing is
coming back out. Anyone have any idea how the water is still
getting in?
I also found water in the
side tanks. My old boat is a pre-MD conversion but I have
inspection hatches at the rear of the side tanks. Does anyone
know if these are connected to the front compartment hence
water getting in there, or are these leaking themselves
somewhere?
The front tank is connected to the side tanks - it is all one big
tank.
On mine there were cracks on the floor that were letting water
through into the tank - especially on the port side where there
wasn't much adhesive holding everything together. If you can see
any cracks in the tank molding then worth grinding back a bit for
adhesion and putting some epoxy and tape over the top.
Cheers
Martin
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Hi all, I'm still having an issue with water getting in to the front bouyancy compartment. I've checked all the keelband screws and re-sealed them but it's still filling up. After some wild weather today it had loads in it. But with the hull dry afterwards nothing is coming back out. Anyone have any idea how the water is still getting in?
I also found water in the side tanks. My old boat is a pre-MD conversion but I have inspection hatches at the rear of the side tanks. Does anyone know if these are connected to the front compartment hence water getting in there, or are these leaking themselves somewhere??
As usual, any advice very gratefully appreciated.
Jonathan Daniel
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Re: Jib sheets stuck down the side of the mast
Get rid of all you don’t use
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 20:05, Jonathan Daniel via <jdaniel1000= [email protected]> wrote: So this is the solution I went with in the end - P-clip one side and a hook the other. Seems to work OK so far, both fittings are low enough not to snag the jib sheets.
Now I'm trying to decide whether to remove the original horn cleats from the mast - they're not used anymore as everything goes to jammers now.
Jonathan Daniel
On Tuesday, 12 April 2022, 09:49:27 BST, Mark Allinson via <m.allinson2= [email protected]> wrote:
Friends who race Enterprises have a velcro secured gaitor that wraps around all the cleaty bits and is easily ripped off if needs be?
Has anyone else had issues with jib sheets getting trapped between the mast and foredeck, and is there a solution? Got a bit hairy in 25 knots a couple of weeks ago with the jib pinned in after tacking. Would a short piece of elastic across the deck behind the mast be a simple solution, or is there a better way?
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Re: Jib sheets stuck down the side of the mast
So this is the solution I went with in the end - P-clip one side and a hook the other. Seems to work OK so far, both fittings are low enough not to snag the jib sheets.
Now I'm trying to decide whether to remove the original horn cleats from the mast - they're not used anymore as everything goes to jammers now.
Jonathan Daniel
On Tuesday, 12 April 2022, 09:49:27 BST, Mark Allinson via groups.io <m.allinson2@...> wrote:
Friends who race Enterprises have a velcro secured gaitor that wraps around all the cleaty bits and is easily ripped off if needs be?
Has anyone else had issues with jib sheets getting trapped between the mast and foredeck, and is there a solution? Got a bit hairy in 25 knots a couple of weeks ago with the jib pinned in after tacking. Would a short piece of elastic across the deck behind the mast be a simple solution, or is there a better way?
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Re: Jib sheets stuck down the side of the mast
Friends who race Enterprises have a velcro secured gaitor that wraps around all the cleaty bits and is easily ripped off if needs be?
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Has anyone else had issues with jib sheets getting trapped between the mast and foredeck, and is there a solution? Got a bit hairy in 25 knots a couple of weeks ago with the jib pinned in after tacking. Would a short piece of elastic across the deck behind the mast be a simple solution, or is there a better way?
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Re: Jib sheets stuck down the side of the mast
Brilliant, thank you. Hadn't thought of mast chocks.
Jonathan Daniel
On Monday, 11 April 2022, 08:50:39 BST, Mike Hamilton <hamilton.w992@...> wrote:
Hi Jonathan I usually sail with a mast chock set between the forward end of the mast and the foredeck. The chocks are T shaped and this acts as a barrier to the sheet.? Your idea of elastic accord the deck would probably do the same thing. All the best. Mike H ORINOCO W992
On Sun, 10 Apr 2022, 22:23 Jonathan Daniel via , <jdaniel1000= [email protected]> wrote: Has anyone else had issues with jib sheets getting trapped between the mast and foredeck, and is there a solution? Got a bit hairy in 25 knots a couple of weeks ago with the jib pinned in after tacking. Would a short piece of elastic across the deck behind the mast be a simple solution, or is there a better way?
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Re: Jib sheets stuck down the side of the mast
Hi Jonathan I usually sail with a mast chock set between the forward end of the mast and the foredeck. The chocks are T shaped and this acts as a barrier to the sheet.? Your idea of elastic accord the deck would probably do the same thing. All the best. Mike H ORINOCO W992
On Sun, 10 Apr 2022, 22:23 Jonathan Daniel via , <jdaniel1000= [email protected]> wrote: Has anyone else had issues with jib sheets getting trapped between the mast and foredeck, and is there a solution? Got a bit hairy in 25 knots a couple of weeks ago with the jib pinned in after tacking. Would a short piece of elastic across the deck behind the mast be a simple solution, or is there a better way?
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John Sharples 1646
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