Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
I wrote Doing the same thing with the “8” key will get you a degree sign, which is what <Opt><Shift>8 gives you on the Mac. Jim Robertson replied:
I guess i forgot to do my homework before lighting the fuse on that iOS “8” rocket. Pressing and holding the “8” still gives me just that one glyph available no longer HOW long I hold it on my iPhone 14 Pro running the current iOS, whether I’m in the Mail app or in Notes.
Maybe I’m missing something?
AHA! I normally use an alternate keyboard on my iPhone (Padkeys). It works there. When I switch to the native iOS keyboard, the 8 key no longer has the degree sign, and the 0 key does. -- Jim Saklad jimdoc@...
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
My result trying the 8 doesn’t work on my iPhone nor iPads in any text app either.
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On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:23?AM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
? On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:42?AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:
Doing the same thing with the “8” key will get you a degree sign, which is what <Opt><Shift>8 gives you on the Mac.
I guess i forgot to do my homework before lighting the fuse on that iOS “8” rocket. Pressing and holding the “8” still gives me just that one glyph available no longer HOW long I hold it on my iPhone 14 Pro running the current iOS, whether I’m in the Mail app or in Notes.
Maybe I’m missing something?
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Jim Robertson
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:42?AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:
Doing the same thing with the “8” key will get you a degree sign, which is what <Opt><Shift>8 gives you on the Mac.
I guess i forgot to do my homework before lighting the fuse on that iOS “8” rocket. Pressing and holding the “8” still gives me just that one glyph available no longer HOW long I hold it on my iPhone 14 Pro running the current iOS, whether I’m in the Mail app or in Notes.
Maybe I’m missing something?
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Jim Robertson
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
jimrobertson wrote: …I have relatively frequent need for the “°” (option-shift-8) symbol. I’ve not found a way to embed that in mail that I compose on my phone. Any suggestions?
DaveC replied: Yes. Press the number key. Press & hold the “0” digit key and slide right.
Actually, that will give you a superscript 0 (or maybe it is a superscript o).
Doing the same thing with the “8” key will get you a degree sign, which is what <Opt><Shift>8 gives you on the Mac.
jimdoc@...
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On Jan 2, 2024, at 08:24, Pat Taylor via groups.io <pat412@...> wrote:
Press and hold on the zero to give you the degree symbol. Pat and Dave, I had no idea it cold be done with 0° of difficulty?. (Scattering formattings while I may) AND demonstrating a critical yet frivolous way to create strikethrouh text in iOS mail while inserting transient instances of “rosebuds” and “ye” into the message!
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:10 AM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
? On Jan 1, 2024, at 10:27?AM, Dane Robison via groups.io <macdane@...> wrote:
?poking around in that toolbar led me to the answer: clicking the "Aa" is what shows/hides the format bar.
…I have relatively frequent need for the “°” (option-shift-8) symbol. I’ve not found a way to embed that in mail that I compose on my phone. Any suggestions?
Yes.
Press the number key. Press & hold the “0” digit key and slide right.
Dave?
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
Press and hold on the zero to give you the degree symbol.
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?I have relatively frequent need for the “°” (option-shift-8) symbol. I’ve not found a way to embed that in mail that I compose on my phone. Any suggestions?
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
On Jan 1, 2024, at 10:27?AM, Dane Robison via groups.io <macdane@...> wrote:
?poking around in that toolbar led me to the answer: clicking the "Aa" is what shows/hides the format bar.
Apologies for coming at this thread from its antithesis. Back in med school one of the first things students learned was that people tended to segregate into “lumpers” (people who wanted simplicity) and “Splitters” (people who wanted every nuance available when categorizing). Of course, polar opposites abound everywhere; e.g.,
Tastes great! vs. Less Filling.?
For me, it’s the email "ASCII-only" vs. "format like you’re the editor of Architectural Digest” conflict.
My needs aren’t exactly THAT demanding, but still, I fall towards the "no subtlety is too subtle to be disallowed” end of that spectrum. That’s true even when my writing platform is my phone. As a guy who’s retired but still lives to go outside, now living in a place with actual WEATHER (Montana), I have relatively frequent need for the “°” (option-shift-8) symbol. I’ve not found a way to embed that in mail that I compose on my phone. Any suggestions?
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On 1 Jan 2024, at 17:27, Dane Robison via groups.io <macdane@...> wrote:
Close! The toolbar that hides is the one up above that includes the Send button. However, poking around in that toolbar led me to the answer: clicking the "Aa" is what shows/hides the format bar. Funny because I tried hiding the toolbar already but it was only after your tip that I paid enough attention to what's in that bar. Thanks!
Dane
Hi Dane
Go to “View” and select “Hide Toolbar”
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Happy New Year!
David On 1 Jan 2024, at 16:59, Dane Robison via ??< macdane@...> wrote:
Morning, and happy new year!
When composing messages in Mail, I'm now seeing a formatting toolbar at the top for things like font face/size, text color, alignment. I've confirmed that my "composing" preferences are still set to plain text, but I can't find a way to get rid of this toolbar. Any ideas?
This is what I'm seeing (but don't want to) ...
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Thanks, Dane
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Re: Formatting toolbar in Mail?
Close! The toolbar that hides is the one up above that includes the Send button. However, poking around in that toolbar led me to the answer: clicking the "Aa" is what shows/hides the format bar. Funny because I tried hiding the toolbar already but it was only after your tip that I paid enough attention to what's in that bar. Thanks!
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Hi Dane
Go to “View” and select “Hide Toolbar”
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Happy New Year!
David On 1 Jan 2024, at 16:59, Dane Robison via < macdane@...> wrote:
Morning, and happy new year!
When composing messages in Mail, I'm now seeing a formatting toolbar at the top for things like font face/size, text color, alignment. I've confirmed that my "composing" preferences are still set to plain text, but I can't find a way to get rid of this toolbar. Any ideas?
This is what I'm seeing (but don't want to) ...
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Thanks, Dane
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Hi Dane
Go to “View” and select “Hide Toolbar”
Happy New Year!
David
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On 1 Jan 2024, at 16:59, Dane Robison via groups.io <macdane@...> wrote:
Morning, and happy new year!
When composing messages in Mail, I'm now seeing a formatting toolbar at the top for things like font face/size, text color, alignment. I've confirmed that my "composing" preferences are still set to plain text, but I can't find a way to get rid of this toolbar. Any ideas?
This is what I'm seeing (but don't want to) ...
<Screen Shot 2024-01-01 at 11.50.59 AM.jpg>
Thanks, Dane
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Formatting toolbar in Mail?
Morning, and happy new year!
When composing messages in Mail, I'm now seeing a formatting toolbar at the top for things like font face/size, text color, alignment. I've confirmed that my "composing" preferences are still set to plain text, but I can't find a way to get rid of this toolbar. Any ideas?
This is what I'm seeing (but don't want to) ...
Thanks, Dane
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Re: Update - Re: [macsupportcentral] New iPad - No bluetooth
Cool - ?I think what happened might have been that the iPad was way over its limit storage-wise. I had made space over and over again. ?I know I couldn’t upgrade to a newer OS due to space. ?And I seemed to stop transferring the Photos and the Notes and the Calendar - the Calendar went first.. ?I’ll bet when that was happening the “on” switch went to “off” or something. So when I got the new iPad and transferred the apps etc, it also transferred the old settings which included the “off.” ? When ?I got my password in there correctly I was functioning again. ?:-) ??
I don’t think I even use Bluetooth for anything at this point - no wonder there’s nothing showing in that setting. ?LOL!. ?
Thank you! ?And have a great New Year! ? ?
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On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:10?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
Congratulations, Becky! ?
As a final check, use any browser to go here and sign in:- ?
All of your data should be available from any of your iDevices!
David On 29 Dec 2023, at 16:01, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I think I got everything fixed up. ?I’ve got the MacBook Air and the iPad connected like the old ones were I think. ?I’ve got Notes going back and forth and I’ve got the Calendars updating. I think this is because I logged in and changed my passwords and they were connected via iCloud, not Bluetooth. ?I’d had this setup with different devices for many years and I’d forgotten how they worked together - also forgotten my passwords. ?
Becky? On Dec 22, 2023, at 7:47?PM, Gijzette <gsstrickland@...> wrote:
Double check you have handoff turned on for both devices. I just set this up last month and couldn't figure out why my new MacBook Air wasn't seeing the iPad. I followed the instructions at the bottom of this article, turned on handoff and all is good now.?
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 5:25?PM Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote: I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad.? (Old and full)
?Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space.? Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space.? ?(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
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The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open.?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices”? and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Re: Update - Re: [macsupportcentral] New iPad - No bluetooth
Congratulations, Becky! ?
As a final check, use any browser to go here and sign in:- ?
All of your data should be available from any of your iDevices!
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On 29 Dec 2023, at 16:01, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I think I got everything fixed up. ?I’ve got the MacBook Air and the iPad connected like the old ones were I think. ?I’ve got Notes going back and forth and I’ve got the Calendars updating. I think this is because I logged in and changed my passwords and they were connected via iCloud, not Bluetooth. ?I’d had this setup with different devices for many years and I’d forgotten how they worked together - also forgotten my passwords. ?
Becky? On Dec 22, 2023, at 7:47?PM, Gijzette <gsstrickland@...> wrote:
Double check you have handoff turned on for both devices. I just set this up last month and couldn't figure out why my new MacBook Air wasn't seeing the iPad. I followed the instructions at the bottom of this article, turned on handoff and all is good now.?
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 5:25?PM Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote: I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad.? (Old and full)
?Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space.? Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space.? ?(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
***?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open.?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices”? and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Update - Re: [macsupportcentral] New iPad - No bluetooth
I think I got everything fixed up. ?I’ve got the MacBook Air and the iPad connected like the old ones were I think. ?I’ve got Notes going back and forth and I’ve got the Calendars updating. I think this is because I logged in and changed my passwords and they were connected via iCloud, not Bluetooth. ?I’d had this setup with different devices for many years and I’d forgotten how they worked together - also forgotten my passwords. ?
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On Dec 22, 2023, at 7:47?PM, Gijzette <gsstrickland@...> wrote:
Double check you have handoff turned on for both devices. I just set this up last month and couldn't figure out why my new MacBook Air wasn't seeing the iPad. I followed the instructions at the bottom of this article, turned on handoff and all is good now.?
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 5:25?PM Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote: I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad.? (Old and full)
?Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space.? Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space.? ?(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
***?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open.?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices”? and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Re: New iPad - No bluetooth
Double check you have handoff turned on for both devices. I just set this up last month and couldn't figure out why my new MacBook Air wasn't seeing the iPad. I followed the instructions at the bottom of this article, turned on handoff and all is good now.?
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 5:25?PM Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote: I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad.? (Old and full)
?Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space.? Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space.? ?(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
***?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open.?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices”? and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Re: New iPad - No bluetooth
I don’t think iPads connect to Macs via Bluetooth, but I could be wrong. ?Absent cable connections, the only way I’ve connected my iPads to my iMac is via WiFi (). ?Here’s a support article on Bluetooth from Apple and it doesn’t list iPads: ?
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On Dec 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote:
I tried making sure they were both totally off ?(the old iPad was also off) and then starting them up again. ?Now the new iPad finds the laptop but they “can’t pair.” ?And some other device (a neighbor’s? - not real close) came up. ?Meanwhile the MacBook is telling me that I have no Bluetooth devices. ?(I just upgraded this yesterday to Sonoma and I think that’s what caused the problem although I certainly did need a new iPad anyway.)?
I tried to send this message to you ……. And it was rejected twice!
You are very welcome, Becky. ?
More information from Apple here if needed: ?
Warm regards,
David
With regard to your current situation …………… I take the simple way out first!
Turn OFF - completely - your MacBook Air AND your iPad (slide bar off!)
Restart both and see if there is any change.
D.
I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad. ?(Old and full)
Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space. ?Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space. ??(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
*** ?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open. ?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices” ?and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Re: New iPad - No bluetooth
Yup - that’s what I just decided right prior to seeing your note. ? Yay!!!!?
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On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:28?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
Thanks for so advising, Becky.
May I strongly urge you to call Apple Support (free) here:-?
They will, without doubt, be the best folk to sort out your dilemma.
Good luck! ?
Please let me know when you have been successful!?
David B.
On 22 Dec 2023, at 23:17, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I tried making sure they were both totally off ?(the old iPad was also off) and then starting them up again. ?Now the new iPad finds the laptop but they “can’t pair.” ?And some other device (a neighbor’s? - not real close) came up. ?Meanwhile the MacBook is telling me that I have no Bluetooth devices. ?(I just upgraded this yesterday to Sonoma and I think that’s what caused the problem although I certainly did need a new iPad anyway.)?
On Dec 22, 2023, at 4:30?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
I tried to send this message to you ……. And it was rejected twice!
You are very welcome, Becky. ?
More information from Apple here if needed: ?
Warm regards,
David
With regard to your current situation …………… I take the simple way out first!
Turn OFF - completely - your MacBook Air AND your iPad (slide bar off!)
Restart both and see if there is any change.
D.
On 22 Dec 2023, at 22:25, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad. ?(Old and full)?
Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space. ?Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space. ??(And I really used that quite a lot.)?
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."?
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
*** ?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open. ?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices” ?and it says “Nearby Devices”.?
Becky?
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Re: New iPad - No bluetooth
But my printer works from both MacBook Air and the iPad. ? ?I think I’ll be calling AppleCare again in the next day or so - Thank you!!!
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On Dec 22, 2023, at 5:17?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I tried making sure they were both totally off ?(the old iPad was also off) and then starting them up again. ?Now the new iPad finds the laptop but they “can’t pair.” ?And some other device (a neighbor’s? - not real close) came up. ?Meanwhile the MacBook is telling me that I have no Bluetooth devices. ?(I just upgraded this yesterday to Sonoma and I think that’s what caused the problem although I certainly did need a new iPad anyway.)?
On Dec 22, 2023, at 4:30?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
I tried to send this message to you ……. And it was rejected twice!
You are very welcome, Becky. ?
More information from Apple here if needed: ?
Warm regards,
David
With regard to your current situation …………… I take the simple way out first!
Turn OFF - completely - your MacBook Air AND your iPad (slide bar off!)
Restart both and see if there is any change.
D.
On 22 Dec 2023, at 22:25, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad. ?(Old and full)
Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space. ?Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space. ??(And I really used that quite a lot.)
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
*** ?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open. ?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices” ?and it says “Nearby Devices”.
Becky
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Thanks for so advising, Becky.
May I strongly urge you to call Apple Support (free) here:-?
They will, without doubt, be the best folk to sort out your dilemma.
Good luck! ?
Please let me know when you have been successful!?
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On 22 Dec 2023, at 23:17, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I tried making sure they were both totally off ?(the old iPad was also off) and then starting them up again. ?Now the new iPad finds the laptop but they “can’t pair.” ?And some other device (a neighbor’s? - not real close) came up. ?Meanwhile the MacBook is telling me that I have no Bluetooth devices. ?(I just upgraded this yesterday to Sonoma and I think that’s what caused the problem although I certainly did need a new iPad anyway.)?
On Dec 22, 2023, at 4:30?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
I tried to send this message to you ……. And it was rejected twice!
You are very welcome, Becky. ?
More information from Apple here if needed: ?
Warm regards,
David
With regard to your current situation …………… I take the simple way out first!
Turn OFF - completely - your MacBook Air AND your iPad (slide bar off!)
Restart both and see if there is any change.
D.
On 22 Dec 2023, at 22:25, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
I got my new iPad but I and I think it’s all set up after I spent an hour with tech support. We had to go around and download the apps etc from the iCloud because I really didn’t have enough space to update the iPad. ?(Old and full)?
Now I still can’t get the Bluetooth to work between my MacBook Air (Sonoma) and the new iPad. . It wasn’t working on the old iPad because I didn’t have enough space. ?Now it’s not working on the new iPad either and there’s plenty of space. ??(And I really used that quite a lot.)?
The iPad says “This iPad is diccoverable as Becky Lindroos’ iPad (2) while Bluetooth Settings is open."?
Then, same screen, where it says “Devices” the wheel just keeps going around searching.
*** ?
The MacBook says This Mac is discoverable as “MacBook Air” while Bluetooth Settings is open. ?
And under My Devices. - “No Bluetooth Devices” ?and it says “Nearby Devices”.?
Becky?
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