Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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I believe he is not trying to locate the file, but to find out how he got a copy of it.
Sent from my iPad,
Brent
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On Oct 23, 2019, at 7:10 AM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:
On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:08 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
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I have no idea how this pdf came to live in my downloads folder. It’s conceivable I received it from a fellow-claimant in an email, but I don’t really know that it started life on my machine as an email attachment. Is there any way to discover that? On my Mac (El Capitan 11.6), doing a Spotlight search for a file finds all a file’s locations, including the folder in which it is contained in Mail. You may need to wait a little for everything to appear (at least I did). I don’t know whether that works for all Mail apps, or just Apple’s.
Bev
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On Oct 23, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote:
Some of this is almost undoubtedly stuff being read from the HD side of the Fusion drive onto the SSD for faster use, but being cleared off in favor of other uses after a period of not being accessed.
So, before I do iMac surgery, I need to figure out whether I need a “stick” SSD or a “drive” size SSD to replace my Fusion drive. I think there’s a way to reformat the SSD portion of the Fusion drive and leave it in the case, but I suspect if I want the fastest performance I want the SSD “stick” to insert on the motherboard in the same place, in which the SSD part of the Fusion drive becomes useless silicon, and perhaps the rotating platter becomes a second internal drive.
Jim Robertson
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[macsupport] Mac Pro 2019 - Number of TB Ports
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Hi Dan,
How are you planning on using the Thunderbolt connections?
My read on the Thunderbolt ports is 12 max.
My understanding of HDMI thunderbolt adapters is that they allow video (not data) signal. It is used for connection of HDMI monitors to systems. I would be amazed if worked as a data cable to a thunderbolt drive.
Display port never worked (for me and my clients, your mileage may vary) previously with thunderbolt for data connections.
Regarding the USB-C, allow me to send you to an article from last year:
Paul
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Howdy.?
I think I need some help to figure out the number of Thunderbolt 3?
ports on the new Mac Pro 2019 tower (not yet released).?
Here's the link to the Mac Pro and specs on Apple's web site (the USA?
site).??
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How many TB3 ports???
Is it 4 on the basic model with 2 on top and 2 in back??
Is it a possible 12 if optional video/GPU cards are added??
What about any of the other ports like DisplayPort, HDMI, and USB-3???
Can any of these be used with an adapter for Thunderbolt???
Denver Dan?
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Too bad it never did. On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Sew Walker < sewnyes@...> wrote:
I want to see if this gets to the group
Sue
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Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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On my Mac (El Capitan 11.6), doing a Spotlight search for a file finds all a file’s locations, including the folder in which it is contained in Mail. ?You may need to wait a little for everything to appear (at least I did). ?I don’t know whether that works for all Mail apps, or just Apple’s.
Of course, the big question is “how long is ‘a little?’” I think I answered that for myself by searching for a PDF attachment to another email I received recently. A spotlight search shows two iterations, but I didn't know how to make spotlight show the path to those two separate instances. (I’m on Mojave). However, I learned via a web search that holding down the “Command” key while hovering over the document preview will show the path to the file at the bottom of the Spotlight window. If the file is an email attachment, that path may be 10 layers deep and won’t display in total, but if (while the preview is visible in the right pane of the spotlight window and the file path still visible at the bottom, one clicks the enter/return key, the selected file will open.
Once the file is open, clicking the filename at the top of its window will reveal the entire path.
It would be nice if I could widen the spotlight window onscreen to eliminate the need to actually open the file in order to see its path.
Now I just need to figure out if knowing the path to a file that’s an email attachment allows me to know what message it was originally attached to.
Actually, I 诲颈诲苍’迟 need to do that. I was able to use InfoClick to create a very specific search for emails coming from people who might have sent me that on the day in question (date it arrived on my computer) and found it!
Thanks SO much for the Spotlight trick!!!
Jim
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The Scimonoce Software folks answered my inquiry about the slow launch times of SEE Finance and acknowledged that it does load its entire database into RAM at launch. However, I’ve discovered a few other oddities that puzzle me.
- If I have a bunch of apps open on the 1 TB Fusion-Drive, 8 GB RAM iMac, so that the RAM in use shown by Activity Monitor is about 7 GB and the swap file is > 1 GB, then launch SEE Finance for the first time in awhile, it can take 50 seconds to open its first account window (there’s a “Loading” flash screen displayed until then).
- Here’s what’s weird: if immediately, I quit from SEE Finance, then launch it again, it only takes about 10 seconds to load and display the same account window.
- Here’s what’s even MORE weird. If I reboot the iMac and make sure that the only app with a user controlled interface that autolaunches is Activity Monitor, launching SEE Finance (with less than 4 GB of RAM in use) again takes 50 seconds for first launch, 10 seconds for relaunch.
I’m guessing (wildly guessing) that there are two bumps in the road to launch. One is probably the 8 GB of total RAM; the second may be the Fusion Drive, and how/where the OS puts stuff (rotating platter vs the very small SSD that’s part of the Fusion drive) when I launch the app.
I was about to suggest that, if you have an SSD to work with, that you try booting from, and starting SEE from the SSD. Then I remembered that what you said you had is a 1TB Fusion drive.
Some of this is almost undoubtedly stuff being read from the HD side of the Fusion drive onto the SSD for faster use, but being cleared off in favor of other uses after a period of not being accessed.
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:31 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io < jimrobertson@...> wrote:
Just now I looked at the same task (launching SEE Finance) on my late 2016 15” Quad Core i7 MacBook Pro 2.7 GHz , 16 GBytes RAM, 512 GB internal SSD. The program loaded completely in 10 seconds, and occupied about 850 MB of RAM when it was finished loading. That’s a comparable space to what’s committed on the iMac, where my swap file is twice the size and the total available RAM is half as much.
So, I suspect more RAM might help. I’ll contact the developer for verification or other ideas.
The Scimonoce Software folks answered my inquiry about the slow launch times of SEE Finance and acknowledged that it does load its entire database into RAM at launch. However, I’ve discovered a few other oddities that puzzle me.
- If I have a bunch of apps open on the 1 TB Fusion-Drive, 8 GB RAM iMac, so that the RAM in use shown by Activity Monitor is about 7 GB and the swap file is > 1 GB, then launch SEE Finance for the first time in awhile, it can take 50 seconds to open its first account window (there’s a “Loading” flash screen displayed until then).
- Here’s what’s weird: if immediately, I quit from SEE Finance, then launch it again, it only takes about 10 seconds to load and display the same account window.
- Here’s what’s even MORE weird. If I reboot the iMac and make sure that the only app with a user controlled interface that autolaunches is Activity Monitor, launching SEE Finance (with less than 4 GB of RAM in use) again takes 50 seconds for first launch, 10 seconds for relaunch.
I’m guessing (wildly guessing) that there are two bumps in the road to launch. One is probably the 8 GB of total RAM; the second may be the Fusion Drive, and how/where the OS puts stuff (rotating platter vs the very small SSD that’s part of the Fusion drive) when I launch the app.
Despite the videos I’ve watched regarding upgrading the innards of a 21.5 inch iMac (which should be accompanied by the March to the Gallows Scherzo from Berlioz’s Symphonie Fantastique as a soundtrack), I think I might take that leap, but I certainly won’t tell my wife first! While I’m in there, if it’s possible I’ll swap out the Fusion Drive and replace it with a fast SSD.
If no one hears from me for a few days, you’ll know what I’m doing (but it won’t be now; I’ll give fellow list members plenty of time to try to talk me out of it).
The curious cat in me will also want to experiment a bit to see which wrinkle in the architecture of my iMac is the greater impediment to full-throttle performance (RAM limitation or Fusion Drive). To sort that out, I think I’d have to do the upgrades separately from each other, but I certainly don’t want to peel that 4K display off the front of the so-thin chassis twice. I have an external monitor; does anyone know if the iMac can be operated without the screen in place hiding its internal organs?
Jim Robertson
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Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:08 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
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I have no idea how this pdf came to live in my downloads folder. It’s conceivable I received it from a fellow-claimant in an email, but I don’t really know that it started life on my machine as an email attachment. Is there any way to discover that? On my Mac (El Capitan 11.6), doing a Spotlight search for a file finds all a file’s locations, including the folder in which it is contained in Mail. You may need to wait a little for everything to appear (at least I did). I don’t know whether that works for all Mail apps, or just Apple’s. Bev -- Bev in TX
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You really don't need to reply as the email is posted to the group. If it doesn't show, then they need to contact the owner. ,?
Brent
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Tony M via Groups.Io < nyrngrz@...> wrote: Received
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Sew Walker < sewnyes@...> wrote:
I want to see if this gets to the group
Sue
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?I think I now joined. I hope so. ?how do I reply to a posts?
Sue
Tap your choice of the links just below your quoted message here to select to who and how you want to reply.
I think <Command><r> defaults to “Reply to group"
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:
?I think I now joined. I hope so. ?how do I reply to a posts?
Sue
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I think I now joined. I hope so. ?how do I reply to a posts?
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I want to see if this gets to the group
Sue
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Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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Jim, I think you have sleuthed as much info out of it as you can. I have never heard of a pathway to how it has traveled, just who created it and with what, as you have already done.
The only place I can think that might be able to divine more, might be WiebeTech. They provide forensic services to law enforcement, but I doubt it. One their service is probably not cheap, if possible, and if it is on a device you upgraded, you probably corrupted the trail.
Sent from my iPad,
Brent
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 2:08 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
In my downloads folder I have an unsigned PDF letter, watermarked “DRAFT,” “written" by a named insurance adjuster, probably not intended for me, although it deals with a disaster which took my home.Using the tools available either in the macOS and Adobe Reader, the author is listed as someone else entirely, a person I don’t know, and it supposedly was created using MS Word via amazonwebservices.
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I hadn't noticed, since I almost never use the web site to read the list.
I also read the oldest unread post to the newest across 4 Apple groups and any other email that arrive at this eddy, and seldom by thread.?
So in the middle of my reading I may get a Baking Network email, or email from a cousin that still can't figure out how to use BCC when sharing a joke. ,?
Brent
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io < drkelly@...> wrote: However, ?displays messages in oldest to newest order so you have to scroll to the bottom to get to the latest message. There’s problems with whatever way it’s done which is why we chose the allow top or bottom posting with quoted text.
Dave On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
Since we are not using a ledger book, quill and ink pot, Mr Fenwick, newest on top, sir.
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Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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I would look at the Created and Modified dates, then at your emails for around that date. If you deleted those emails, retrieve?them from a backup.
Otto
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 22:08, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: In my downloads folder I have an unsigned PDF letter, watermarked “DRAFT,” “written" by a named insurance adjuster, probably not intended for me, although it deals with a disaster which took my home.Using the tools available either in the macOS and Adobe Reader, the author is listed as someone else entirely, a person I don’t know, and it supposedly was created using MS Word via amazonwebservices.
I’ve received variations of this letter, much expanded upon, customized for the insurance company’s purposes in dealing with me as a claimant and signed by my adjusters.
There is vigorous discussion among and between many parties to this disaster regarding the sincerity of the insurance companies’ dealings with their policyholders in the wake of this disaster. The letter contains enough body text to be used as a template for a denial of request for payment; i.e., a blanket refusal in a situation in which the California Department of Insurance has directed the companies to consider every request for payment on its own merits.
I have no idea how this pdf came to live in my downloads folder. It’s conceivable I received it from a fellow-claimant in an email, but I don’t really know that it started life on my machine as an email attachment. Is there any way to discover that?
Please note that I’m not asking for legal or insurance advice, just whether I can access information in my email database or the file system to give me a clue how I got this.
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Re: Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 3:08 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io < jimrobertson@...> wrote:
In my downloads folder I have an unsigned PDF letter
Jim, Have you tried doing a search in your emails to see if it is from an attachment to an email that might still be there? Otherwise, I wouldn’t have a clue where it might have come from.
Dave
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Is there any way to rediscover the origins of an email pdf attachement
#Mail
In my downloads folder I have an unsigned PDF letter, watermarked “DRAFT,” “written" by a named insurance adjuster, probably not intended for me, although it deals with a disaster which took my home.Using the tools available either in the macOS and Adobe Reader, the author is listed as someone else entirely, a person I don’t know, and it supposedly was created using MS Word via amazonwebservices.
I’ve received variations of this letter, much expanded upon, customized for the insurance company’s purposes in dealing with me as a claimant and signed by my adjusters.
There is vigorous discussion among and between many parties to this disaster regarding the sincerity of the insurance companies’ dealings with their policyholders in the wake of this disaster. The letter contains enough body text to be used as a template for a denial of request for payment; i.e., a blanket refusal in a situation in which the California Department of Insurance has directed the companies to consider every request for payment on its own merits.
I have no idea how this pdf came to live in my downloads folder. It’s conceivable I received it from a fellow-claimant in an email, but I don’t really know that it started life on my machine as an email attachment. Is there any way to discover that?
Please note that I’m not asking for legal or insurance advice, just whether I can access information in my email database or the file system to give me a clue how I got this.
Thanks so much, Jim Robertson
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