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Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?
Ah, yes, this one had me tearing my hair out a few weeks ago. The key to it is the button on the far right of the library editor marked with a crossed-out black pin and a red pin, "Edit pins per part or body style (Use carefully!)". I can't remember if it has to be 'up' or 'down' to get what you want, so you'll have to try both ways :).
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Regards, Robert. On 12/04/2012 23:33, acousmatique wrote:
Arg... this is driving me nuts. --
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Re: solder mask beginner question
Richard Webb
--- In kicad-users@..., "echojordanfieldstation2" <jozef.samijn@...> wrote:
Entities on the mask layers show where solder mask *won't* be so, in almost all cases, the solder pads for through-hole parts will appear on both the top and bottom layer. Exceptions would be for things like the tab on horizontally-mounted linear regulators. Surface mount parts will, again in almost all cases, have masks on only one layer. A few may have through-pads to heat-sink areas on the opposite side. |
Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?
Andy Eskelson
That reminded me of the problem - it's obviously still the same.
I've just had a quick play and I've reminded myself of the way to do things. It's a bit annoying but this is how to get around the problem set things up as before, with the correct number of parts. The edit pins per pare should normally be selected. Now select the part you want to edit. select a drawing tool, and click ONCE to start the tool. Then RIGHT CLICK and select the edit rectangle/line options. untick the shared by all parts in component button. That should do the trick. Once set to this mode it will usually be remembered but you do need to do this each time you start a new edit. You can also change the setting once drawn. Select the general pointer tool, the arrow at the top of the right hand toolbar. The RIGHT click on a rectangle or line that will bring up a zoom / move sub menu. right click AGAIN in the same place and you will get the rectangle / line options from there you can select the shared on all parts button again. (What happens is that the first click assumes that you want to zoom the page etc) If you have lots of lines then this is a bit tedious and it's better to start off the process with the correct settings. However I have not found a way to copy blocks between parts from the editor, so if you do have some common graphics the it is sometimes easier to leave the settings as common to all parts, then go into each part, switch off that option and make the tweaks from there. This could do with a bit of work done on it to make things easier... Andy On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Ivica Kvasina <kvasina@...> wrote: well i don't know about easily: |
Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?
well i don't know about easily: creating same parts is not a problem.? creating parts where pins are in different position from one part to next is not a problem creating different artwork for each part is a problem.? every time i change one part, change is applied to all of them. i did try various settings incl. edit pins per part but so far this is still frustrating. From: Andy Eskelson To: kicad-users@... Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:24:19 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Mixed part types with multi-part components?
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It can be done fairly easily.
I created a relay symbol that had the coil and contacts as sep parts. In the component properties you need to set the number of parts, I expect that you have done this for other parts you have created. Then you can start editing the component. In the top toolbar there are two boxes, one to select the part A, B, C and so on. then a box for the name. Next to that box is a button "edit pins per part or body style" Click this so that it is active. this setting allows you to use different designs and pins for each sub part. If I remember correctly there was a small problem in getting things to edit correctly, and what I did was to just put a single line on all parts (with the edit pins button unselected, then switch it back on and I could then edit things as normal. I've not tried to do this with my current version of kicad, BZR 3256, so that little problem may have been sorted out by now. Andy On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:33:21 -0000 "acousmatique" <acousmatique@...> wrote: > Arg... this is driving me nuts. > > For the past two weeks, I have buckled down to create the parts libraries I need. This seems to be a nightmare for every program I try, like they assume the parts you need are already there. > > I have made some multi-part profiles which have turned out well. The problem seems to be when I am making a component which has multiple parts, but they aren't all the same. For instance, tonight I am trying to make a big library of transistor and diode arrays that I use. Now I am trying to enter a device (THAT 340) which has two NPN transistors, and two PNP transistors. I define pins 1-3 as NPN for Part A, but then when I define pins 5-7 as PNP for Part B, I go back and it has overwritten the PNP for PART A also! I cannot imagine any reason why this would happen. They have their own pin numbers! If I change the part for pins 5-7 why would it assume that I am changing pins 1-3 which I have already done? > > The only workaround I can think of for now is just using a monolithic block and naming the pins for the whole device. It's easy, but it makes the schematics messy. Any ideas? Am I missing something here? > > Thanks! > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. > Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. > Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. > For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links > > > |
Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?
Andy Eskelson
It can be done fairly easily.
I created a relay symbol that had the coil and contacts as sep parts. In the component properties you need to set the number of parts, I expect that you have done this for other parts you have created. Then you can start editing the component. In the top toolbar there are two boxes, one to select the part A, B, C and so on. then a box for the name. Next to that box is a button "edit pins per part or body style" Click this so that it is active. this setting allows you to use different designs and pins for each sub part. If I remember correctly there was a small problem in getting things to edit correctly, and what I did was to just put a single line on all parts (with the edit pins button unselected, then switch it back on and I could then edit things as normal. I've not tried to do this with my current version of kicad, BZR 3256, so that little problem may have been sorted out by now. Andy On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:33:21 -0000 "acousmatique" <acousmatique@...> wrote: Arg... this is driving me nuts. |
Re: Thermal vias under bottom pad of QFN64
I forgot to mention I've also written about QFN footprint design for kicad:
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Regards, Robert. On 12/04/2012 20:41, Fabio Varesano wrote:
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Re: Thermal vias under bottom pad of QFN64
I have uploaded a number of modules, including QFN devices, here:
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Some are for projects that never got started (or the chip changed), but the others have been used successfully. The bottom line is check, check, and check again before using *any* footprint. Watch out in particular for QFN packages that have ever-so-slightly different pin pitches - the IPC names I've used incorporate the pin pitch in the name. Regards, Robert. On 12/04/2012 20:41, Fabio Varesano wrote:
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Re: Rasberry Pi bcm2835 cluster pannel made in kicad as a open source kickstarter?
Frank
How about Allwinner A10 - cortex A8
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as an ARM open source project. There is already a good start of an Kicad schematic, footprints and pcb: git clone --- In kicad-users@..., "bobcousins34" <bobcousins42@...> wrote:
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Mixed part types with multi-part components?
Arg... this is driving me nuts.
For the past two weeks, I have buckled down to create the parts libraries I need. This seems to be a nightmare for every program I try, like they assume the parts you need are already there. I have made some multi-part profiles which have turned out well. The problem seems to be when I am making a component which has multiple parts, but they aren't all the same. For instance, tonight I am trying to make a big library of transistor and diode arrays that I use. Now I am trying to enter a device (THAT 340) which has two NPN transistors, and two PNP transistors. I define pins 1-3 as NPN for Part A, but then when I define pins 5-7 as PNP for Part B, I go back and it has overwritten the PNP for PART A also! I cannot imagine any reason why this would happen. They have their own pin numbers! If I change the part for pins 5-7 why would it assume that I am changing pins 1-3 which I have already done? The only workaround I can think of for now is just using a monolithic block and naming the pins for the whole device. It's easy, but it makes the schematics messy. Any ideas? Am I missing something here? Thanks! |
Re: Thermal vias under bottom pad of QFN64
Hi Bruno, please share it.. I'm really curious in seeing how you solved it ...
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On 04/12/2012 09:44 PM, Bruno Andrade wrote:
Fabio, I did the footprints for CC111xFx devices and are working very |
Eeschema's "Current search path list"
The purpose of the "Current search path list" in Eeschema's Preferences>Library dialog doesn't seem to be very well documented. As near as I can tell, the paths listed here serve as selectable base directories for the same dialog's "Component library files" Add (and Insert) function. Is that all it does?
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Re: Thermal vias under bottom pad of QFN64
Bruno Andrade
Fabio, I did the footprints for CC111xFx devices and are working very well, however I used not a very normal way.
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if you want I can send to you the modules. Bruno On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Fabio Varesano <fabio.varesano@...> wrote:
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Thermal vias under bottom pad of QFN64
Hi,
I'm developing a board with a CC430 which comes in a QFN64 package with a bottom pad which has to be connected to GND and full of vias for head dissipation. Please see the following screenshot: How would you design such bottom pad with KiCad? AFAIK I simply can't place vias on pads... Thanks, Fabio |
Re: problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X
I am in VB on a Mac OSX 10.6, 2.26Ghz MacBook (not pro). VB is running XP SP3 (which I think only uses one of the two CPU cores). Under 7 seconds from starting the program to getting the main program window, then after I select eeschema it is just over 9 seconds before the schematic comes up (this happens to be a fairly small design). Other stuff is running at the same time, but nothing crazy. I wouldn't call that wildly fast, but for my poor overworked MacBook, it seems OK. -J From: software_hardware_engineer To: kicad-users@... Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: [kicad-users] Re: problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X
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I found a place in Fusion to enable the video accelerator, the 3D view now works with no issues.
All the Kicad applications still load very slowly. I am trying to find out if my anti-virus software is causing this. Currently am using Ad-Aware Pro. Thank you for the help --- In kicad-users@..., Ivica Kvasina wrote: > > I cannot speak for Mac but I can verify that it all works??just fine on XP inside VirtualBox (it??is free and available for Mac too). > The only slow part is starting VM itself (~25sec measured on my puny G570, it is faster on my desktop).?? > Once VM with XP is loaded I see little if any difference in KiCad performance between VM and native OS. > Everything is presented correctly, and 3D view is clean and smooth as it gets, same goes for Wings3D. > Perhaps your VM is not set correctly. How much resources you have assigned to it? > VMWare should also addon to accelerate video performance.??Did you install it? > > I don't use it much so I gave it generous 512Mb of RAM, video memory set to 32Mb,?? > with 2D and 3D acceleration enabled (requires installing VirtualBox Guest additions) and > virtual HDD still has 2.5Gb free. > > > Good Luck > > > ________________________________ > From: software_hardware_engineer > To: kicad-users@... > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:31:54 PM > Subject: [kicad-users] problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X > > > ?? > I am new to Kicad, so hopefully the following issues are user error. > > I use a Macbook Pro 17 with Snow Leopard, and Windows XP sp3 running in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine. > I have Kicad build 3256 on Windows, 3411 on the Mac. > > On the Mac version: > Eschema does not render the drawing properly, traces and components end up in seemingly random places that are not where I put them. > > In WinXP: > Kicad, and all its launched tools take a long time to start, up to 2 minutes at times. Once started they run smoothly with no notable delays. > PCBnew 3D view crashes windows, specifically windows locks up in a manner that requires re-booting. > Wings 3D (ver 1.4.1) appears to work with no problems. > > Kicad seems to be a very good tool, I appreciate the time and work that created it. > > Thanks for any help on the issues. > |
Re: problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X
I upgraded KiCad recently and also found the slow to start problem had started. I don't have that problem with KiCad running under MacPorts Wine.
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I found a place in Fusion to enable the video accelerator, the 3D view now works with no issues. |
Re: problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X
I found a place in Fusion to enable the video accelerator, the 3D view now works with no issues.
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All the Kicad applications still load very slowly. I am trying to find out if my anti-virus software is causing this. Currently am using Ad-Aware Pro. Thank you for the help --- In kicad-users@..., Ivica Kvasina <kvasina@...> wrote:
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Re: problems running on Windows XP and Mac OS X
applewiz2000
Hi Eric,
I find Kicad on Mac OSX to be a poor performer, and there is also a graphical glitch on the circuit diagram app. But apart from that it opens circuits OK if the library is correct. One possible advantage of the Mac version is the postscript > PDF conversion of plots looks smoother than the other OS's. You could try running it under VirtualBox with a "light" Linux distros. I run Mac OSX 10.7/VitualBox with Ubuntu mint. It takes 45 sec to get from virtualBox <double click> to the Kicad project screen. You can disable login password (no point in guest OS!) to a save a few seconds. ~Rob |
Re: How can I make ERC ignore the no connects n the output pins ?
ah,ok - I will try this tonight. It's been several years since I used Kicad and I didn't recall this little step. This must be the first time I had a situation like this.
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I guess then next time on bigger designs, say when using FPGA's, I might just add fanout connections with testpoints pads for the unused pins. That's normally done with BGA devices for those last minute modifcations :) =Dan --- In kicad-users@..., Peter Bennett <peterbb@...> wrote:
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