Gregg,
You can just see on this keyboard for sale on E-Bay
the right control is labelled "enter" and the left "reset"
Dave
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gregg Levine
Sent: 25 October 2019 22:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] random OS/2 trivia
Hello!
I believe it is. We'd need Dave M to comment on that, but he's busy answering
questions from people who are being surprised. This is something even I can't
answer which is certainly a first. As for OS/2, hmm, never got the Warp one to
work, but did nearly succeed with the others.
However.... I'm trying to track down a copy of the thing that IBM wrote for
laughs for Windows 3.11. Think "runtime" and you're trying to figure out why a
guy named Bob is insisting he works for UNCLE.
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@...
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 5:13 PM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
Isn't it older than that? The 3178 keyboard had both a "newline" key which
moved the cursor and "enter" which generated an aid.
The newline was where the right control key is on a modern keyboard,
Dave
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ggs@...
Sent: 25 October 2019 21:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] random OS/2 trivia
I was working at IBM (in FL) at the time of OS/2 and was on some of
the original task forces that were defining the OS. Unfortunately
management didn¡¯t listen to us on quite a few topics.
The keyboard layout is such because IBM expected it to be used on
some incarnation of the 3270 PC. The keyboard of which has the left
control is marked ¡°reset¡± and right control is marked ¡°enter¡±.
TTFN - Guy
On Oct 25, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Drew Derbyshire
<swhobbit@...>
wrote:
On 10/25/19 5:43 AM, Grog Proce wrote:
On 2019-10-25 6:33 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
It turns out in the OS/2 3270 emulator, the emulated ENTER key
is the
bare-assed Right-Control. Not Control-Enter, not Shift-Control, just Control.
As a professional developer on z/OS (not a quality claim - just
that someone
pays me) I've used Right-Control as <enter> and Left-Control as
<reset> from the mid-90s to today - and for the foreseeable future.
I just have to have a New-Line key, and that key is labelled as "Enter" on my
keyboard.
I prefer using ENTER on x3270. I use Shift-ENTER for new line (or
fake it with
a tab key) on it.
Yes, Left-Control is Reset on the OS/2 emulator.
I say "mid 90s". It was probably 1992 or 1993. They took away
my 3192 and
gave me a PC - just so they could email me.
That's what you get for using z/OS instead of z/VM. VM does mail just
fine.
:-)
I got OS/2 after seeing a presentation at NaSTEC in Florida. It
was a bit of a
wild ride for a number of years...
I first touched OS/2 when I worked for Keane, Inc. and we were
contracted
with IBM to write a smart OS/2-based emulator connecting to
AS/400's. This was 1989, and a month and half after I started, IBM
canceled the project as part of their global pullback. (I suspect
also they got a clue and realized that for customers, PC's did not exist
simply to talk to IBM servers using coax).
I stopped using OS/2 full time at home at when I got my first
Pentium in 1996,
and programs crashed on the machine. I figured out after months
that the cache chips with were bad, and Windows worked better
because IT didn't exploit the system memory as well (heavily) ...
but by then the writing was on the wall about OS/2 having lost the war.
I also lost the war on email that decade, SMTP/POP3/IMAP kicked
UUCP's
butt. :-)
-ahd-
