Hello!
I believe it is. We'd need Dave M to comment on that, but he's busy
answering questions from people who are being surprised. This is
something even I can't answer which is certainly a first. As for OS/2,
hmm, never got the Warp one to work, but did nearly succeed with the
others.
However.... I'm trying to track down a copy of the thing that IBM
wrote for laughs for Windows 3.11. Think "runtime" and you're trying
to figure out why a guy named Bob is insisting he works for UNCLE.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 5:13 PM Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
Isn't it older than that? The 3178 keyboard had both a "newline" key which moved the cursor and "enter" which generated an aid.
The newline was where the right control key is on a modern keyboard,
Dave
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I was working at IBM (in FL) at the time of OS/2 and was on some of the
original task forces that were defining the OS. Unfortunately management
didn¡¯t listen to us on quite a few topics.
The keyboard layout is such because IBM expected it to be used on some
incarnation of the 3270 PC. The keyboard of which has the left control is
marked ¡°reset¡± and right control is marked ¡°enter¡±.
TTFN - Guy
On Oct 25, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Drew Derbyshire <swhobbit@...>
wrote:
On 10/25/19 5:43 AM, Grog Proce wrote:
On 2019-10-25 6:33 AM, Drew Derbyshire wrote:
It turns out in the OS/2 3270 emulator, the emulated ENTER key is the
bare-assed Right-Control. Not Control-Enter, not Shift-Control, just Control.
As a professional developer on z/OS (not a quality claim - just that someone
pays me) I've used Right-Control as <enter> and Left-Control as <reset> from
the mid-90s to today - and for the foreseeable future. I just have to have a
New-Line key, and that key is labelled as "Enter" on my keyboard.
I prefer using ENTER on x3270. I use Shift-ENTER for new line (or fake it with
a tab key) on it.
Yes, Left-Control is Reset on the OS/2 emulator.
I say "mid 90s". It was probably 1992 or 1993. They took away my 3192 and
gave me a PC - just so they could email me.
That's what you get for using z/OS instead of z/VM. VM does mail just fine.
:-)
I got OS/2 after seeing a presentation at NaSTEC in Florida. It was a bit of a
wild ride for a number of years...
I first touched OS/2 when I worked for Keane, Inc. and we were contracted
with IBM to write a smart OS/2-based emulator connecting to AS/400's. This
was 1989, and a month and half after I started, IBM canceled the project as
part of their global pullback. (I suspect also they got a clue and realized that for
customers, PC's did not exist simply to talk to IBM servers using coax).
I stopped using OS/2 full time at home at when I got my first Pentium in 1996,
and programs crashed on the machine. I figured out after months that the
cache chips with were bad, and Windows worked better because IT didn't
exploit the system memory as well (heavily) ... but by then the writing was on
the wall about OS/2 having lost the war.
I also lost the war on email that decade, SMTP/POP3/IMAP kicked UUCP's
butt. :-)
-ahd-
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