Tim,
Got ya covered.? I’ll be at the hangar on Sat at 1000.
Dennis
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 1:42?PM Timothy Higgins via <timothyahiggins= [email protected]> wrote: Would anyone have some decent quality Anti skid stuff with self adhesive properties???
I need two pieces for the steps, each one about 2x3 inches.
Take care,
Tim H.
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Mark, I believe you found your man. JM ?
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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [fairweatherflyers] Air brush? I have about a dozen spray guns for various?uses. Maybe more. You're welcome to use any of them or I can paint your coupons if David isn't available. I would not use an airbrush. The nozzle is too small to get good coverage and it won't lay down the paint the same as a bigger gun. If there is any metallic flake in the paint the airbrush may not even spray it. The TDS for your paint system will give a recommended nozzle size (1.3, 1.4, 1.8 or whatever). The gravity fed guns don't waste much paint (whatever sticks to the sides). If you're using a 2k paint you have to throw out whatever you catalyze regardless. You probably know this already but be sure to prep your coupons the same as you would the RV4 for final paint. Scuff, alodine, primer, whatever you plan on doing. Then follow the same paint schedule as in the TDS (coats, drying times, wet mils, etc). The base has a quite big effect especially on some of the less opaque colors (reds, oranges, yellows, even some whites). I'd also put a very slight bend in the coupons. There are rarely truly flat surfaces on a plane and a flat coupon can look different than a curved one,?especially with metallics. ? On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 12:47?PM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66=[email protected]> wrote: OK, great, Mark. I'd be happy to help you spray it when you're ready. Best,
Dave ? On Thu, Apr 24, 2025, 12:14 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986=[email protected]> wrote: ? ? Are you planning on attending the members meeting tonight at the museum ? If so we can talk about it. ? On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12?PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986=[email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm ? ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
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I have about a dozen spray guns for various?uses. Maybe more. You're welcome to use any of them or I can paint your coupons if David isn't available.
I would not use an airbrush. The nozzle is too small to get good coverage and it won't lay down the paint the same as a bigger gun. If there is any metallic flake in the paint the airbrush may not even spray it. The TDS for your paint system will give a recommended nozzle size (1.3, 1.4, 1.8 or whatever).
The gravity fed guns don't waste much paint (whatever sticks to the sides). If you're using a 2k paint you have to throw out whatever you catalyze regardless.
You probably know this already but be sure to prep your coupons the same as you would the RV4 for final paint. Scuff, alodine, primer, whatever you plan on doing. Then follow the same paint schedule as in the TDS (coats, drying times, wet mils, etc). The base has a quite big effect especially on some of the less opaque colors (reds, oranges, yellows, even some whites). I'd also put a very slight bend in the coupons. There are rarely truly flat surfaces on a plane and a flat coupon can look different than a curved one,?especially with metallics. On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 12:47?PM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66= [email protected]> wrote:
OK, great, Mark.
I'd be happy to help you spray it when you're ready.
Best,
Dave
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025, 12:14 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: Yes. Ok
Jerry, ? Are you planning on attending the members meeting tonight at the museum ? If so we can talk about it.
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12?PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Would anyone have some decent quality Anti skid stuff with self adhesive properties???
I need two pieces for the steps, each one about 2x3 inches.
Take care,
Tim H.
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OK, great, Mark.
I'd be happy to help you spray it when you're ready.
Best,
Dave
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025, 12:14 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: Yes. Ok
Jerry, ? Are you planning on attending the members meeting tonight at the museum ? If so we can talk about it.
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12?PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Jerry, ? Are you planning on attending the members meeting tonight at the museum ? If so we can talk about it.
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12?PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Jerry, ? Are you planning on attending the members meeting tonight at the museum ? If so we can talk about it.
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:12?PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Dave, ? Thanks for the info. I'll try to get more specs on the paint and will let you know.
Mark
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 9:38?AM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66= [email protected]> wrote: Good morning, Mark,
Thinner is always better for these small pick-up tube air-type guns.? Acrylic enamel is common for car paint.? It is very thin...as thin as, possibly thinner (viscosity-wise) than water.
While I haven't painted a plane (yet?), I see that Polyurethane (PU) is common -- no experience with how thick that is or what is used to thin it, however.
I also have two can-type air guns if you want to give them a whirl with a small compressor. Dave
Dave, ? Do you have to reduce the paint before spraying it ? Can it spray any type of paint ??
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 9:11?PM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Mark,
I have this simple setup I've used for quite a few small area jobs (e.g., hobbies, models).
If you have liqiud samples, this allows a simple filling of a glass bottle to enable spraying it with the propellant which entrains the paint up through a small 'straw' of the sample bottle to the tiny spray gun nozzle.
Dave E.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 8:12 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Good morning, Mark,
Thinner is always better for these small pick-up tube air-type guns.? Acrylic enamel is common for car paint.? It is very thin...as thin as, possibly thinner (viscosity-wise) than water.
While I haven't painted a plane (yet?), I see that Polyurethane (PU) is common -- no experience with how thick that is or what is used to thin it, however.
I also have two can-type air guns if you want to give them a whirl with a small compressor. Dave
Dave, ? Do you have to reduce the paint before spraying it ? Can it spray any type of paint ??
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 9:11?PM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Mark,
I have this simple setup I've used for quite a few small area jobs (e.g., hobbies, models).
If you have liqiud samples, this allows a simple filling of a glass bottle to enable spraying it with the propellant which entrains the paint up through a small 'straw' of the sample bottle to the tiny spray gun nozzle.
Dave E.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 8:12 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Dave, ? Do you have to reduce the paint before spraying it ? Can it spray any type of paint ??
Mark
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 9:11?PM David Erickson via <Davidgerickson66= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Mark,
I have this simple setup I've used for quite a few small area jobs (e.g., hobbies, models).
If you have liqiud samples, this allows a simple filling of a glass bottle to enable spraying it with the propellant which entrains the paint up through a small 'straw' of the sample bottle to the tiny spray gun nozzle.
Dave E.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 8:12 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
I have this simple setup I've used for quite a few small area jobs (e.g., hobbies, models).
If you have liqiud samples, this allows a simple filling of a glass bottle to enable spraying it with the propellant which entrains the paint up through a small 'straw' of the sample bottle to the tiny spray gun nozzle.
Dave E.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 8:12 PM Jerry Marstall via <jerrylm1986= [email protected]> wrote: I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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I have the former. Not so much the latter. Willing to try. Jm
Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Greetings, ? Does anyone in our group have an airbrush setup and know how to use it ? I am in the process of selecting colors for our RV4 and I need someone to paint some sample coupons for me.
Mark
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Only one more door to go and we’ll see planes there very soon, thanks to a very dedicated volunteer group.
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Re: [Eaa1016] Air Traffic Controller candidates
I guess this one went over my head. If they didn't graduate from MIT, they're not qualified.
-Ricky
A very funny interview. Bout 6 minutes but worth it.
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Re: Avionics have arrived
That is going to be one nice 182
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On Apr 23, 2025, at 08:22, Bill Kemper via groups.io <Bill3558@...> wrote:
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The plane will be better than it ever was. Good luck with the project.? ???
On Tuesday, April 22, 2025, 7:37 PM, Jacob Coby via groups.io <jacob.coby@...> wrote: I am rebuilding my 182p after Helene.?
I had dual G5s and the gfc-500 autopilot but the rest of the panel was showing its age. KX-155 nav/com, GNS-430w gps, PMA 6000 (mono) audio panel, and an inop KT-78 transponder.? After getting some eye watering quotes to replace the ancient avionics I had, I did some research and ended up on Approach Fast Stack’s website. I called them and spoke with Tim several times and after talking with my IA I pulled the trigger.?
I ended up with the ifr flyaway package. They deleted the gmu-11 since mine was in the wing and fine and they added the autopilot harness and a serial connection for the engine monitor at no added cost. I gained an oat sensor so I can get true airspeed along with ads-b in and out via the gtx-375. And all of the wiring for the avionics will be completely new.?
Really happy with the kit so far. The wiring harness is very well done and the documentation that came with it shows every connector and pin and what I need to interface the harness with the airframe.?
I’m somewhat regretting the Garmin audio panel. It doesn’t feel as nice as the ps engineering unit but it does have stereo along with Bluetooth and a usb charger. Weirdly enough the GTR-205 also has Bluetooth and a somewhat iPod like interface.?
There is still a lot of work left in this kit to do. I’m guessing at least 40 hours to pull the old harness and install this one and a blanking plate in the radio stack.?
After this is replacing the engine gauges with a JPI-900. Then hopefully replacing the old plastic panel with a custom aluminum one.?
With any luck I’ll get my engine back this year. Apparently the case shops are backed up and are months and months out. We will see. It’s been three months so far.?
Pics show the harness, wiring diagram, and the GNC-215 vs KX-155.?
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Air Traffic Controller candidates
A very funny interview. Bout 6 minutes but worth it.
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Re: Avionics have arrived
The plane will be better than it ever was. Good luck with the project.?
On Tuesday, April 22, 2025, 7:37 PM, Jacob Coby via groups.io <jacob.coby@...> wrote: I am rebuilding my 182p after Helene.?
I had dual G5s and the gfc-500 autopilot but the rest of the panel was showing its age. KX-155 nav/com, GNS-430w gps, PMA 6000 (mono) audio panel, and an inop KT-78 transponder.? After getting some eye watering quotes to replace the ancient avionics I had, I did some research and ended up on Approach Fast Stack’s website. I called them and spoke with Tim several times and after talking with my IA I pulled the trigger.?
I ended up with the ifr flyaway package. They deleted the gmu-11 since mine was in the wing and fine and they added the autopilot harness and a serial connection for the engine monitor at no added cost. I gained an oat sensor so I can get true airspeed along with ads-b in and out via the gtx-375. And all of the wiring for the avionics will be completely new.?
Really happy with the kit so far. The wiring harness is very well done and the documentation that came with it shows every connector and pin and what I need to interface the harness with the airframe.?
I’m somewhat regretting the Garmin audio panel. It doesn’t feel as nice as the ps engineering unit but it does have stereo along with Bluetooth and a usb charger. Weirdly enough the GTR-205 also has Bluetooth and a somewhat iPod like interface.?
There is still a lot of work left in this kit to do. I’m guessing at least 40 hours to pull the old harness and install this one and a blanking plate in the radio stack.?
After this is replacing the engine gauges with a JPI-900. Then hopefully replacing the old plastic panel with a custom aluminum one.?
With any luck I’ll get my engine back this year. Apparently the case shops are backed up and are months and months out. We will see. It’s been three months so far.?
Pics show the harness, wiring diagram, and the GNC-215 vs KX-155.?
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Very nicely assembled harnesses .
Leo
Em 2025-04-22 19:37, Jacob Coby via groups.io escreveu:
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I am rebuilding my 182p after Helene.?
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I had dual G5s and the gfc-500 autopilot but the rest of the panel was showing its age. KX-155 nav/com, GNS-430w gps, PMA 6000 (mono) audio panel, and an inop KT-78 transponder.?
After getting some eye watering quotes to replace the ancient avionics I had, I did some research and ended up on Approach Fast Stack's website. I called them and spoke with Tim several times and after talking with my IA I pulled the trigger.?
?
I ended up with the ifr flyaway package. They deleted the gmu-11 since mine was in the wing and fine and they added the autopilot harness and a serial connection for the engine monitor at no added cost. I gained an oat sensor so I can get true airspeed along with ads-b in and out via the gtx-375. And all of the wiring for the avionics will be completely new.?
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Really happy with the kit so far. The wiring harness is very well done and the documentation that came with it shows every connector and pin and what I need to interface the harness with the airframe.?
?
I'm somewhat regretting the Garmin audio panel. It doesn't feel as nice as the ps engineering unit but it does have stereo along with Bluetooth and a usb charger. Weirdly enough the GTR-205 also has Bluetooth and a somewhat iPod like interface.?
?
There is still a lot of work left in this kit to do. I'm guessing at least 40 hours to pull the old harness and install this one and a blanking plate in the radio stack.?
?
After this is replacing the engine gauges with a JPI-900. Then hopefully replacing the old plastic panel with a custom aluminum one.?
?
With any luck I'll get my engine back this year. Apparently the case shops are backed up and are months and months out. We will see. It's been three months so far.?
?
Pics show the harness, wiring diagram, and the GNC-215 vs KX-155.?
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WOW.... You have?your work cut out for you ! When you are done, it's going to be very nice and very special.
Mark
I am rebuilding my 182p after Helene.?
I had dual G5s and the gfc-500 autopilot but the rest of the panel was showing its age. KX-155 nav/com, GNS-430w gps, PMA 6000 (mono) audio panel, and an inop KT-78 transponder.? After getting some eye watering quotes to replace the ancient avionics I had, I did some research and ended up on Approach Fast Stack’s website. I called them and spoke with Tim several times and after talking with my IA I pulled the trigger.?
I ended up with the ifr flyaway package. They deleted the gmu-11 since mine was in the wing and fine and they added the autopilot harness and a serial connection for the engine monitor at no added cost. I gained an oat sensor so I can get true airspeed along with ads-b in and out via the gtx-375. And all of the wiring for the avionics will be completely new.?
Really happy with the kit so far. The wiring harness is very well done and the documentation that came with it shows every connector and pin and what I need to interface the harness with the airframe.?
I’m somewhat regretting the Garmin audio panel. It doesn’t feel as nice as the ps engineering unit but it does have stereo along with Bluetooth and a usb charger. Weirdly enough the GTR-205 also has Bluetooth and a somewhat iPod like interface.?
There is still a lot of work left in this kit to do. I’m guessing at least 40 hours to pull the old harness and install this one and a blanking plate in the radio stack.?
After this is replacing the engine gauges with a JPI-900. Then hopefully replacing the old plastic panel with a custom aluminum one.?
With any luck I’ll get my engine back this year. Apparently the case shops are backed up and are months and months out. We will see. It’s been three months so far.?
Pics show the harness, wiring diagram, and the GNC-215 vs KX-155.?
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