Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks Garth - I¡¯d like to know if that is right because it is easy to fix by alerting people about the need to respond quickly to their invitations
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Mike I¡¯ve been told by someone else this can occur If people are slow to accept the request to move to breakout room. So I am going to check that out. Garth.?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 8:41 PM, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
Hi Garth
?
Thanks for raising the question and thanks Bill again for your Bluejeans review.
?
I¡¯ve had the problem and I would love to know how to fix it.? Mine was compounded by Zoom chucking me out of the meeting as well ¨C fortunately I had a co-host otherwise I think
the meeting with 30 participants would have ended abruptly.? Most of my participants were in break outs with two stranded in the main room along the lines you describe.? They had been allocated and had accepted their breakouts but would not go.? This is a
different issue to the problem that sometimes occurs when people join via their browsers and cannot be allocated to rooms.
?
Any tips anyone?
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Thanks Bill that¡¯s very helpful.?
As an experienced user can you help with a problem I have had almost every time I have used breakout rooms with Zoom. I really love the simple functionality of Zoom. When over a
dozen or so participants (it seems) I almost always get 1-3 people left in the main room. I can see they are allocated to a room, but they don¡¯t go automatically and I can¡¯t work out a way to ¡®push¡¯ them. On at least one occasion it was because they were downloading
a file when I was sending them to rooms.?
Anyone else experience this clutch? Any hints on how to avoid and how to fix when it happens?
?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 1:46 AM, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.?
I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be
shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to
breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to
separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time
warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though
I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found
to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department
of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
--
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Mike I¡¯ve been told by someone else this can occur If people are slow to accept the request to move to breakout room. So I am going to check that out. Garth.?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 8:41 PM, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
Hi Garth
?
Thanks for raising the question and thanks Bill again for your Bluejeans review.
?
I¡¯ve had the problem and I would love to know how to fix it.? Mine was compounded by Zoom chucking me out of the meeting as well ¨C fortunately I had a co-host otherwise I think the meeting with 30
participants would have ended abruptly.? Most of my participants were in break outs with two stranded in the main room along the lines you describe.? They had been allocated and had accepted their breakouts but would not go.? This is a different issue to the
problem that sometimes occurs when people join via their browsers and cannot be allocated to rooms.
?
Any tips anyone?
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Thanks Bill that¡¯s very helpful.?
As an experienced user can you help with a problem I have had almost every time I have used breakout rooms with Zoom. I really love the simple functionality of Zoom. When over a dozen or so participants (it seems) I almost always get 1-3
people left in the main room. I can see they are allocated to a room, but they don¡¯t go automatically and I can¡¯t work out a way to ¡®push¡¯ them. On at least one occasion it was because they were downloading a file when I was sending them to rooms.?
Anyone else experience this clutch? Any hints on how to avoid and how to fix when it happens?
?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 1:46 AM, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.?
I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be
shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to
breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to
separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time
warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though
I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found
to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m
looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Hi Garth
?
Thanks for raising the question and thanks Bill again for your Bluejeans review.
?
I¡¯ve had the problem and I would love to know how to fix it.? Mine was compounded by Zoom chucking me out of the meeting as well ¨C fortunately I had a co-host otherwise I think the meeting with 30
participants would have ended abruptly.? Most of my participants were in break outs with two stranded in the main room along the lines you describe.? They had been allocated and had accepted their breakouts but would not go.? This is a different issue to the
problem that sometimes occurs when people join via their browsers and cannot be allocated to rooms.
?
Any tips anyone?
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Thanks Bill that¡¯s very helpful.?
As an experienced user can you help with a problem I have had almost every time I have used breakout rooms with Zoom. I really love the simple functionality of Zoom. When over a dozen or so participants (it seems) I almost always get 1-3
people left in the main room. I can see they are allocated to a room, but they don¡¯t go automatically and I can¡¯t work out a way to ¡®push¡¯ them. On at least one occasion it was because they were downloading a file when I was sending them to rooms.?
Anyone else experience this clutch? Any hints on how to avoid and how to fix when it happens?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 1:46 AM, Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.?
I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be
shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to
breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to
separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time
warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though
I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found
to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m
looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
--
|
Re: Running Multi-Lingual Virtual Sessions
Make sure ASL is used!?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Monday, April 13, 2020, Michael Randel < Michael@...> wrote: This is a late reply to Dirk's question...
My colleague Gillian Martin Mehers, based in Geneva, just published yesterday on her recent experience using Zoom with the option for live translation. There is a good amount of preparation required, to smooth out the edges, and to help people be able to participate?in an unfamiliar settings.
It looks intriguing, and full of promise for those who need to work in live?multi-lingual?settings.
Michael
Michael Randel
Randel|Consulting|Associates:??Leading Organizations through Change and Growth Learn more about in Challenging Times
** Based in Washington D.C, supporting organizations globally! **
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:42 AM Dirk Slater < dirk@...> wrote: Hello,
I just subscribed to the list over the weekend and am already heartened by the amount of knowledge being shared here and am currently facing a major challenge which I¡¯m hoping I can get some advice/wisdom on.
Basically, I just want to know if people have been running sessions making use of translators/interpreters. If so what platforms have you used to support this? In particular getting different audio channels running with different languages for large group discussions and then organising small group breakouts based on participants languages?
The context:
I¡¯ve been co-hosting a series of workshops for the Red Cross/Red Crescent Society on sharing innovative responses across the national societies. A major goal is to get some real sharing across regions that won¡¯t be siloed by language.? We¡¯ve been running a couple a week over the last few weeks and are getting an enormous response - upwards of 80 participants - and it¡¯s been a blessing to be able to break people up easily in small groups on the fly.
However, we ran into a couple of bumps on our last call when we tried to expand beyond English and also include Spanish Language speakers. We had nearly 130 participants and had a major struggle just getting them into breakout rooms where everyone spoke the same language - we had tried to get people to register in advance and then assign them breakout groups - but as people logged in, we realised many of the people that had pre-registered didn¡¯t show up and we had lots of people that hadn¡¯t registered wanting to participate.? Our quick workaround was to get people to rename themselves with either EN or ES so we could manually organise the room quickly. ?
When we are in large group, we had translation happening while people were speaking, so one or two sentences, translation, then one or two sentences.? This was okay - and there was some key moments where people from Italy, Iran, Columbia and Ecuador were able to share some critical advice - but not optimal in terms of energy and flow. ? We are eyeing Zoom¡¯s language interpretation feature - which apparently allows you to set up separate audio channels by language.? It¡¯s an upgrade that we¡¯re thinking is probably worth the money (it¡¯s a 160GBP a month) but wondered if anyone has experience with it and could attest to its value (or not).
One thing that is working well is using a Google Doc with instructions for how to join/participation, what people should do in small groups and the agenda in multiple languages. ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
- Dirk
Dirk Slater FabRider
Skype: dirkslater Wire: @FabRider Mobile/Signal: +447903932817 Join our Network on Designing Network Centric Resources:?
|
Re: Running Multi-Lingual Virtual Sessions
This is a late reply to Dirk's question...
My colleague Gillian Martin Mehers, based in Geneva, just published yesterday on her recent experience using Zoom with the option for live translation. There is a good amount of preparation required, to smooth out the edges, and to help people be able to participate?in an unfamiliar settings.
It looks intriguing, and full of promise for those who need to work in live?multi-lingual?settings.
Michael
Michael Randel
Randel|Consulting|Associates:??Leading Organizations through Change and Growth Learn more about in Challenging Times
** Based in Washington D.C, supporting organizations globally! **
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:42 AM Dirk Slater < dirk@...> wrote: Hello,
I just subscribed to the list over the weekend and am already heartened by the amount of knowledge being shared here and am currently facing a major challenge which I¡¯m hoping I can get some advice/wisdom on.
Basically, I just want to know if people have been running sessions making use of translators/interpreters. If so what platforms have you used to support this? In particular getting different audio channels running with different languages for large group discussions and then organising small group breakouts based on participants languages?
The context:
I¡¯ve been co-hosting a series of workshops for the Red Cross/Red Crescent Society on sharing innovative responses across the national societies. A major goal is to get some real sharing across regions that won¡¯t be siloed by language.? We¡¯ve been running a couple a week over the last few weeks and are getting an enormous response - upwards of 80 participants - and it¡¯s been a blessing to be able to break people up easily in small groups on the fly.
However, we ran into a couple of bumps on our last call when we tried to expand beyond English and also include Spanish Language speakers. We had nearly 130 participants and had a major struggle just getting them into breakout rooms where everyone spoke the same language - we had tried to get people to register in advance and then assign them breakout groups - but as people logged in, we realised many of the people that had pre-registered didn¡¯t show up and we had lots of people that hadn¡¯t registered wanting to participate.? Our quick workaround was to get people to rename themselves with either EN or ES so we could manually organise the room quickly. ?
When we are in large group, we had translation happening while people were speaking, so one or two sentences, translation, then one or two sentences.? This was okay - and there was some key moments where people from Italy, Iran, Columbia and Ecuador were able to share some critical advice - but not optimal in terms of energy and flow. ? We are eyeing Zoom¡¯s language interpretation feature - which apparently allows you to set up separate audio channels by language.? It¡¯s an upgrade that we¡¯re thinking is probably worth the money (it¡¯s a 160GBP a month) but wondered if anyone has experience with it and could attest to its value (or not).
One thing that is working well is using a Google Doc with instructions for how to join/participation, what people should do in small groups and the agenda in multiple languages. ?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
- Dirk
Dirk Slater FabRider
Skype: dirkslater Wire: @FabRider Mobile/Signal: +447903932817 Join our Network on Designing Network Centric Resources:?
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks Bill that¡¯s very helpful.?
As an experienced user can you help with a problem I have had almost every time I have used breakout rooms with Zoom. I really love the simple functionality of Zoom. When over a dozen or so participants (it seems) I almost always get 1-3 people left in the main room. I can see they are allocated to a room, but they don¡¯t go automatically and I can¡¯t work out a way to ¡®push¡¯ them. On at least one occasion it was because they were downloading a file when I was sending them to rooms.?
Anyone else experience this clutch? Any hints on how to avoid and how to fix when it happens?
Thanks?for your help Garth?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 1:46 AM, Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Of course, please share.
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Odin
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
?
This is great Bill, thanks so much for sharing. I've been articulating these differences to colleagues and projects, but very helpful to have your comparison captured here.
I'm assuming I can share this with folks, with attribution of course?
?
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:46 AM Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.?
I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds
what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all
others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find
a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to
send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So,
even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found
to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).?
I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks for that comparison, Bill!? I'd been wondering about Blue Jeans, so having your comparison is very helpful.
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks, Bill! This is a great comparison.
I'd add just one thing to the comparison, based on my experience with partners in low-bandwidth settings: BlueJean's app has a "low-bandwidth mode", which has been indispensable in allowing partners to keep a clear audio connection despite bandwidth issues. To my knowledge, Zoom doesn't have that feature and in general requires more bandwidth. Of course, for everything but bandwidth requirements, I agree that Zoom is nearly always better!
Cheers, Sarah Organizational Learning Consultant ? | ??
Ed.M.,?Learning?&?Teaching?Program |?Harvard Graduate School of Education Learning Travel Blogger ? | ??
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:09 PM Sam Killermann < sK@...> wrote: Bill, this is so helpful! I've been struggling to compare BlueJeans with Zoom in the meaningful ways for our purposes (beyond just the stated features), and this is a wonderful headstart.
Thank you!
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
--
Sam Killermann
Creating to live in a world where everyone is? healthy, understood, educated, and safe
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Bill, this is so helpful! I've been struggling to compare BlueJeans with Zoom in the meaningful ways for our purposes (beyond just the stated features), and this is a wonderful headstart.
Thank you!
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
-- Sam Killermann
Creating to live in a world where everyone is? healthy, understood, educated, and safe
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
This is great Bill, thanks so much for sharing. I've been articulating these differences to colleagues and projects, but very helpful to have your comparison captured here.
I'm assuming I can share this with folks, with attribution of course?
Best,
Odin Odin ZackmanFounder & Principal 415.867.1369
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:46 AM Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
I've been surprised that larger companies with surprisingly knowledgeable IT advisors are dropping Zoom, but I'm guessing it's not because of zoombombing, because you can manage that. I suspect it's the other security issues. Zoom is working to address the problems that have been identified, but they definitely have a reputation management problem. right now.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM Lucas Cioffi < lucas@...> wrote: Hello Madeline,
Yes, co-hosts in Zoom can move themselves, but there's a max of about 75 co-hosts that you can have.? This was discovered by some great open space facilitators in the Netherlands running a large and productive public experiment a few weeks ago.
For events large than 75 that where you want participants?to be able to move themselves to different Zoom breakout rooms, you can use .
What was the problem you ran into with co-hosts and Zoom breakout groups? Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:21 PM M Maxwell < mmaxwell@...> wrote: I¡¯m trying to do this, too, and would be very appreciative.? I¡¯m told the co-hosts can move themselves, but I haven¡¯t been able to make that work. ? Madeline ? ? ? Madeline M. Maxwell Professor of Communication Studies Moody College of Communication Director, UT Project on Conflict Resolution Director, UT Global Ethics and Conflict Resolution Summer Symposium Chair, Graduate Portfolio in Dispute Resolution ? ? ? ? Thanks, Bill That¡¯s a really helpful comparison. I was interested to see that in Zoom ¡°it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups¡±. I want to be able to do this, but haven¡¯t found a way, except to randomly assign people to groups and then to manually move facilitators from one room to another. Is there a more clever way? ?  Bev Wenger-Trayner
Learning to make a difference
| + 351 962 29 88 00 | |
On Apr 13, 2020, at 14:38, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote: ? I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know. | | | | With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc. | Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities. | | Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen. | Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling. | | With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate. You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms. When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning. | With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people. You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size. When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning. When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts. | | You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question. | When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants. | | Zoom has much higher screen resolution. | Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago. |
Hope this comparison helps others! Community Building Institute Do you know how much Hopin costs?
| EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. |
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful? Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)? Director, On Think Tanks? On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative. Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?? Does anybody have experience with this alternative? Thanks much . . . be well. Community Building Institute Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...?
?
-- Jon Lebkowsky (@jonl) Cofounder and Cohost,
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Hello Madeline,
Yes, co-hosts in Zoom can move themselves, but there's a max of about 75 co-hosts that you can have.? This was discovered by some great open space facilitators in the Netherlands running a large and productive public experiment a few weeks ago.
For events large than 75 that where you want participants?to be able to move themselves to different Zoom breakout rooms, you can use .
What was the problem you ran into with co-hosts and Zoom breakout groups? Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:21 PM M Maxwell < mmaxwell@...> wrote: I¡¯m trying to do this, too, and would be very appreciative.? I¡¯m told the co-hosts can move themselves, but I haven¡¯t been able to make that work. ? Madeline ? ? ? Madeline M. Maxwell Professor of Communication Studies Moody College of Communication Director, UT Project on Conflict Resolution Director, UT Global Ethics and Conflict Resolution Summer Symposium Chair, Graduate Portfolio in Dispute Resolution ? ? ? ? Thanks, Bill That¡¯s a really helpful comparison. I was interested to see that in Zoom ¡°it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups¡±. I want to be able to do this, but haven¡¯t found a way, except to randomly assign people to groups and then to manually move facilitators from one room to another. Is there a more clever way? ? Bev Wenger-Trayner
Learning to make a difference
| + 351 962 29 88 00 | |
On Apr 13, 2020, at 14:38, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote: ? I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know. | | | | With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc. | Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities. | | Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen. | Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling. | | With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate. You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms. When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning. | With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people. You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size. When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning. When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts. | | You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question. | When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants. | | Zoom has much higher screen resolution. | Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago. |
Hope this comparison helps others! Community Building Institute Do you know how much Hopin costs?
| EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. |
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful? Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)? Director, On Think Tanks? On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative. Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?? Does anybody have experience with this alternative? Thanks much . . . be well. Community Building Institute Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...?
?
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
I¡¯m trying to do this, too, and would be very appreciative.? I¡¯m told the co-hosts can move themselves, but I haven¡¯t been able to make that work. ? Madeline ? ? ? Madeline M. Maxwell Professor of Communication Studies Moody College of Communication Director, UT Project on Conflict Resolution Director, UT Global Ethics and Conflict Resolution Summer Symposium Chair, Graduate Portfolio in Dispute Resolution ? ? ?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bev Wenger-Trayner
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review? Thanks, Bill That¡¯s a really helpful comparison. I was interested to see that in Zoom ¡°it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups¡±. I want to be able to do this, but haven¡¯t found a way, except to randomly assign people to groups and then to manually move facilitators from one room to another. Is there a more clever way? ? Bev Wenger-Trayner
Learning to make a difference
| + 351 962 29 88 00 | |
On Apr 13, 2020, at 14:38, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote: ? I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know. | | | | With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc. | Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities. | | Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen. | Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling. | | With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate. You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms. When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning. | With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people. You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size. When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning. When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts. | | You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question. | When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants. | | Zoom has much higher screen resolution. | Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago. |
Hope this comparison helps others! Community Building Institute Do you know how much Hopin costs?
| EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. |
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found hopin.to to be very useful? Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)? Director, On Think Tanks? On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative. Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?? Does anybody have experience with this alternative? Thanks much . . . be well. Community Building Institute Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...?
?
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thank you Bill, most helpful Fred Carden
Principal, Using Evidence Inc.
mobile/WA +1-613-252-8642
???
On Mon., Apr. 13, 2020, 9:46 a.m. Bill Potapchuk, < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
This is a great review of Zoom v. Bluejeans Bill!? Thank?you for taking the time to provide this comparison.? Zoom has really improved security with their product so hopefully more groups will be open to utilizing it as it is the best platform.
Thank you. Eric A. Keck VP of Customer Success ekeck@... 720-624-9885
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:46 AM Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks Bill
?
That¡¯s really helpful ¨C as a Zoom user it does not want me to try Bluejeans any time soon!
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little
things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly
and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received
them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Jamie Kriegel
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] If not Zoom, then Bluejeans?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found hopin.to to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
This is excellent analysis, Bill. Thanks for taking the time to do this.?
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
-- Sherry P. Johnson, she/herFacilitator, Engagement Consultant, and Complexity Coach 651.776.3060
To-do every day:
1.?sustain what works
?2.?nurture good patterns
?3.?stimulate growth
?4.?intervene with integrity
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Thanks, Bill
That¡¯s a really helpful comparison.
I was interested to see that in Zoom ¡°it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups¡±. I want to be able to do this, but haven¡¯t found a way, except to randomly assign people to groups and then to manually move facilitators from one room to another.
Is there a more clever way?
Bev
Bev Wenger-Trayner Learning to make a difference |
+ 351 962 29 88 00 | |
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Apr 13, 2020, at 14:38, Bill Potapchuk < bill@...> wrote:
Hi all. ? I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know. ? Feature | Zoom | Bluejeans | Moderation | With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc. | Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities. | Screen | Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen. | Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling. | Breakout Rooms | With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate. ? You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms. ? When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning. ? | With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people. You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size. ? ? When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning. ? When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts. | Chat during Breakouts | You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question. | When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants. | Resolution | Zoom has much higher screen resolution. | Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago. |
? Hope this comparison helps others! ? Best to all . .? Bill ? ? William Potapchuk Community Building Institute Arlington, VA 703-425-6296 o 703-431-9943 c
? ? ? ? Do you know how much Hopin costs?
| EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. |
? For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found hopin.to to be very useful? Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)? Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?? Hi all: ? Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative. ? Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?? ? Does anybody have experience with this alternative? ? Thanks much . . . be well. ? Bill ? ? William Potapchuk Community Building Institute Arlington, VA 703-425-6296 o 703-431-9943 c
? ? ? ? Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...?
|
Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and
the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else
quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they
never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Jamie Kriegel
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 9:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] If not Zoom, then Bluejeans?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found hopin.to to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
?
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
|
Michael Randel
Robin Muretisch
Lucas Cioffi
Bev Wenger-Trayner