Re: If not Zoom, then Bluejeans? BLUEJEANS Review
|
Thanks Garth - I¡¯d like to know if that is right because it is easy to fix by alerting people about the need to respond quickly to their invitations
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Mike I¡¯ve been told by someone else this can occur If people are slow to accept the request to move to breakout room. So I am going to check that out. Garth.?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 8:41 PM, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
Hi Garth
?
Thanks for raising the question and thanks Bill again for your Bluejeans review.
?
I¡¯ve had the problem and I would love to know how to fix it.? Mine was compounded by Zoom chucking me out of the meeting as well ¨C fortunately I had a co-host otherwise I think
the meeting with 30 participants would have ended abruptly.? Most of my participants were in break outs with two stranded in the main room along the lines you describe.? They had been allocated and had accepted their breakouts but would not go.? This is a
different issue to the problem that sometimes occurs when people join via their browsers and cannot be allocated to rooms.
?
Any tips anyone?
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
?
?
?
?
Thanks Bill that¡¯s very helpful.?
As an experienced user can you help with a problem I have had almost every time I have used breakout rooms with Zoom. I really love the simple functionality of Zoom. When over a
dozen or so participants (it seems) I almost always get 1-3 people left in the main room. I can see they are allocated to a room, but they don¡¯t go automatically and I can¡¯t work out a way to ¡®push¡¯ them. On at least one occasion it was because they were downloading
a file when I was sending them to rooms.?
Anyone else experience this clutch? Any hints on how to avoid and how to fix when it happens?
?
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 1:46 AM, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all.
?
I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.?
I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know.
?
|
Feature
|
Zoom
|
Bluejeans
|
|
Moderation
|
With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc.
|
Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities.
|
|
Screen
|
Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be
shown on the screen.
|
Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling.
|
|
Breakout Rooms
|
With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to
breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate.
?
You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms.
?
When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning.
?
|
With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to
separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people.
You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size.
?
?
When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning.
?
When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts.
|
|
Chat during Breakouts
|
You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time
warnings or respond to a question.
|
When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though
I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants.
|
|
Resolution
|
Zoom has much higher screen resolution.
|
Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago.
|
?
Hope this comparison helps others!
?
Best to all . .? Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
bill@...?
?
?
?
?
Do you know how much Hopin costs?
|
EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.
|
?
For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found
to be very useful?
Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)
Director, On Think Tanks?
?
On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Hi all:
?
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department
of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative.
?
Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?
?
Does anybody have experience with this alternative?
?
Thanks much . . . be well.
?
Bill
?
?
William Potapchuk
Community Building Institute
Arlington, VA
703-425-6296 o
703-431-9943 c
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Michaela Sieh
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] Screen sharing Zoom (the actual zoom controls!)
?
Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...
--
|
