I've been surprised that larger companies with surprisingly knowledgeable IT advisors are dropping Zoom, but I'm guessing it's not because of zoombombing, because you can manage that. I suspect it's the other security issues. Zoom is working to address the problems that have been identified, but they definitely have a reputation management problem. right now.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM Lucas Cioffi < lucas@...> wrote: Hello Madeline,
Yes, co-hosts in Zoom can move themselves, but there's a max of about 75 co-hosts that you can have.? This was discovered by some great open space facilitators in the Netherlands running a large and productive public experiment a few weeks ago.
For events large than 75 that where you want participants?to be able to move themselves to different Zoom breakout rooms, you can use .
What was the problem you ran into with co-hosts and Zoom breakout groups? Lucas Cioffi Founder, QiqoChat Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:21 PM M Maxwell < mmaxwell@...> wrote: I¡¯m trying to do this, too, and would be very appreciative.? I¡¯m told the co-hosts can move themselves, but I haven¡¯t been able to make that work. ? Madeline ? ? ? Madeline M. Maxwell Professor of Communication Studies Moody College of Communication Director, UT Project on Conflict Resolution Director, UT Global Ethics and Conflict Resolution Summer Symposium Chair, Graduate Portfolio in Dispute Resolution ? ? ? ? Thanks, Bill That¡¯s a really helpful comparison. I was interested to see that in Zoom ¡°it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups¡±. I want to be able to do this, but haven¡¯t found a way, except to randomly assign people to groups and then to manually move facilitators from one room to another. Is there a more clever way? ?  Bev Wenger-Trayner
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On Apr 13, 2020, at 14:38, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote: ? I had a chance to use Bluejeans for a virtual meeting with 22 people last week.? It worked, but I was disappointed.? I have regularly used Zoom for these meetings . . . and the little things that make a difference added up.? And, if any of these observations come from user error (me!) please let me know. | | | | With Zoom, I¡¯m able to work with a partner who controls Zoom, starts the breakout groups, etc. | Not possible.? I needed to run everything myself, I could not share responsibilities. | | Zoom shows up to 49 people.? And you can scroll through the screens if the number of people exceeds what can be shown on the screen. | Bluejeans shows 12 people only and there is no scrolling. | | With Zoom, it is easy to keep the facilitation team out of the breakout groups, randomly assign all others to breakout groups, and use that time to coordinate. You can also input the size of the group you want and Zoom calculates the number of breakout rooms. When you want to end small groups in Zoom, participants are given a 1 minute warning. | With Bluejeans you can either assign groups person by person . . . or randomly.? I was unable to find a way to separate the facilitation team from everyone else quickly and the lack of a partner operating Zoom meant I needed to choose the fast way, not assigning people. You also need to create rooms . . . you cannot specify the desired group size. When you end small groups in Bluejeans, it is immediate, there is no warning. When breakouts ended in Bluejeans, several people were kicked off audio each time I used breakouts. | | You can send a message to all participants while participants in breakout groups.? This allows me to send time warnings or respond to a question. | When participants are in breakout groups, you cannot send a chat message to all participants.? So, even though I was sending time warnings to participants, they never received them . . . and when the breakouts ended without warning, it was jarring to participants. | | Zoom has much higher screen resolution. | Bluejeans has low screen resolution . . . like our monitors were 10 or 15 years ago. |
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For conferences - with several parallel sessions we have found to be very useful? Enrique Mendizabal (FRSA)? Director, On Think Tanks? On 6 Apr 2020, at 3:18 pm, Bill Potapchuk <bill@...> wrote:
Because of zoombombing,? a bunch of institutional clients are banning the use of Zoom (like the National Park Service/Department of Interior!).? I¡¯m looking for an alternative. Bluejeans seems to be quite similar.?? Does anybody have experience with this alternative? Thanks much . . . be well. Community Building Institute Hi Catherine,
If you click on "General" - and then scroll down to "more settings" - you are taken to your profile/account-settings (new tab opens) where you indeed can activate the "Share Zoom windows".?
Seems a bit hidden, and there might be other ways to get to that page...?
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