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Re: A taxonomy of virtual events

 

Hello Helen,?

Just as location of the chairs in a room changes the conversation in the room, and you have to match the layout of a room to the purpose of the conversations you want to have in that room, the choices of the video platform frame the conversations and they create or dismantle?the conversation you are trying to have.?

Part of your taxonomy is going to need to deal with what the point of the event is, and what the collection (many) of conversations you intend to have as a result of that event. Including the event being part of a series of events that create a larger conversation.?

Zoom webinar is horrible for having the audience learn about each other.?
Zoom breakout rooms are horrible for the law of two feet (mingling)
Teams login /authentication structures get in the way of multi-organizational conversations.?
Remo events make it hard to get groups to have a structured 1:1 speed dating so that everyone gets to "shake hands" with everyone else.?

Perhaps you could see this taxonomic conversation with the taxonomy of the conversations that you want to craft?



On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:07 AM BEVAN, Helen (NHS ENGLAND & NHS IMPROVEMENT - X24) via <helen.bevan2=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello everyone. My team and I need some help!

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In large organisations, when decisions are made about purchasing virtual platforms, they are often driven by the ¡°back end¡± (the technical specification) more than the ¡°front end¡± (what facilitators and leaders of events want/need to get the outcomes they seek).

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My team does a lot of virtual facilitation and hosting within a large system. Through the pandemic our session have got bigger, more complex and daring in their approach and with increasing level of interaction. We have started to make the case in our organisation for access to a wider set of platforms to work with. I have been trying to find a ¡°taxonomy¡± which sets out different kinds of virtual events. This is to enable us to match the kinds of virtual events that my team is being asked to provide with the tech platforms that we have available. This is where I need your help.

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I haven¡¯t been able to find such a taxonomy. I can find plenty that are written from the ¡°back end¡± that contrast the tech specifications of different platforms but nothing that is written from the ¡°front end¡± perspective of facilitators and leaders of meetings.

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The nearest I have been able to find is the ¡°four bases¡± that Phil Hadridge of Idenk wrote from his research on learning from virtual meetings. So I used Phil¡¯s framework as my starting point and created a draft taxonomy. Here is Phil¡¯s paper:

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Here is my draft taxonomy:

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So can you:

  • Let me know if such a taxonomy already exists and give me the link?
  • Help me to improve this. I know that many of you are very experienced virtual facilitators and I would appreciate it if you were as challenging as you want to be.

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Here is a link to the taxonomy as a Googledoc:

Please feel free to change it. It doesn¡¯t need to look beautiful, I can do that afterwards.

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I will share the finished version with the group.

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Thanks so much in advance.

Helen

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PS: if you want to see the kinds of things that my team and I do, find us on Twitter at @HelenBevan and @HorizonsNHS

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Re: A taxonomy of virtual events

 

Hi All,

Thank you very much for these great comments. Helen and I have been working further on this and your insights have stretched our thinking significantly.

Nancy: your mapping of features to activities is a very useful summary of our 'problem' when we have been trying to compare tools. Increasingly we are finding the need to work backwards from activities to features and then to tools when designing sessions. This is all the more important as the tech is landscape expanding so rapidly and as we move into a new context of vastly enhanced awareness of what is possible due to the massive uptake of virtual working during COVID. Following your comment we have been information gathering in our recent events to develop our understanding of what features our participants like and why they like them vis-a-vis the activity at hand.

Elise: building on the above, your catalogue of meeting technologies by functional category is the most comprehensive one that I have personally come across and I will certainly be sharing it! I do predict that this kind of categorisation will become increasingly difficult though as platforms seem to be increasingly merging lots of features.

Sean: these dimensions certainly challenge the taxonomy levels - I can see how a virtual session from level 1 and another from level 5 could be more similar in terms of their goals than two different events at level 5, for example. Linking this up with Nancy's work it seems that these are useful for providing a framework for making decisions about event design when mapped against the features of certain tools.? Another dimension we have also been thinking about a lot recently that may be a complement these is 'synchronous - asynchronous'. We think that there is an opportunity to challenge what needs to actually be done during a meeting (synchronous) and what could be extended between meetings or done even without meetings at all (asynchronous) in order to deliver greater freedom and flexibility.

Andrea: I think that engagement can rightly act as another dimension added to Sean's list . By this I am thinking about the directions of interactions e.g. does the information flow go from one to many, many to one, top down, bottom up etc.

Thank you all again for your insightful feedback, and we look forward to sharing more of our thoughts and findings with you as we continue this work.
Tom & Helen


Re: Looking for expert with CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide #events #facilitation #technology

 

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Hi Linda,

Happy to chip in. Cvent and many other event management systems work as "containers" with the links to the actual sessions in Zoom or any other videoconference platforms.

Do you know how many simultaneous sessions do they have planned? That would be the amount of Zoom rooms open at the same time. We've done this a couple of times.

If you go through this setup you'll need to have a tech host in each simultaenous breakout session, in order to provide co-host capabilities to the presenter, be the backup in case the presenter doesn't show up or internet blackout, etc. A knowledgable tech host who is just "opening" the room might be able to support two breakout sessions if they have two computers, if not you'll need someone there.

You'll need to look out for who's providing the Zoom accounts/rooms so you can take it into consideration in your budget.

I prefer better other platforms like Whova or Socio, much more intuitive.

If you need more input you can drop me a message,

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On 23-Sep-20 11:43 AM, Linda Howard wrote:
All - I just joined this group today.

I have a prospective client who is using CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide as their conferencing platform for a conference with 150+ people, 32 breakout sessions plus 5 general sessions.? They had told me they were using Zoom meetings as their platform, but I just learned they're using CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide.? My client says: "Basically every time we bring up the Zoom integration piece of the conference, CVENT throws their hands up and says ¡°oh that¡¯s Zoom only ¨C consult with them, not in our lane.¡±?

The project I'm talking them about is to coordinate all the session moderators and be the go-to person for all the moderator coordination and training/preparing their speakers.??

If they're having issues between CVENT and Zoom, I want to be sure I know what to expect. I am very knowledgeable about Zoom meetings with large 50-100 person groups.? But not CVENT?CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide.? Does anyone have experience with this specific set of platforms and can offer guidance or talk to me about what to be aware of and watch out for??

I haven't confirmed that I will be submitting a proposal yet, but I need to decide in the next day or so as the conference is last week of October!? Yes - they just decided to hire this out.

Thanks.
Linda

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Looking for expert with CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide #events #facilitation #technology

 

All - I just joined this group today.

I have a prospective client who is using CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide as their conferencing platform for a conference with 150+ people, 32 breakout sessions plus 5 general sessions.? They had told me they were using Zoom meetings as their platform, but I just learned they're using CVENT CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide.? My client says: "Basically every time we bring up the Zoom integration piece of the conference, CVENT throws their hands up and says ¡°oh that¡¯s Zoom only ¨C consult with them, not in our lane.¡±?

The project I'm talking them about is to coordinate all the session moderators and be the go-to person for all the moderator coordination and training/preparing their speakers.??

If they're having issues between CVENT and Zoom, I want to be sure I know what to expect. I am very knowledgeable about Zoom meetings with large 50-100 person groups.? But not CVENT?CrowdCompass and Online Event Guide.? Does anyone have experience with this specific set of platforms and can offer guidance or talk to me about what to be aware of and watch out for??

I haven't confirmed that I will be submitting a proposal yet, but I need to decide in the next day or so as the conference is last week of October!? Yes - they just decided to hire this out.

Thanks.
Linda


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi everyone,

seconding this request, if a recording exists it would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,
Larisa

On Tuesday, September 22, 2020, 06:46:18 PM PDT, 1nancyloadman@... <1nancyloadman@...> wrote:


Hi Sherry,
I¡¯m a masters student trying to run a virtual ecocycle session next week! I would love to view the recording of this if possible!
Nancy


Re: Vision: Make running Liberating Structures online easy - feedback wanted #liberatingstructures #technology

 

Hi Sherry,
I¡¯m a masters student trying to run a virtual ecocycle session next week! I would love to view the recording of this if possible!
Nancy


Re: Creating Connection Online #facilitation #learning

 

Hi Luci,
We usually offer these webinars every Tuesday. We have one tomorrow at 12pm EST on Transformational Experience Design if you can make it: Let me know if you can make it. If you come a?little late it's ok.
We'd love to have you.
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:33 PM <luci@...> wrote:
I registered, too, and am very hopeful about attending but I have another Zoom event that may overlap. Is it okay to arrive late (I know that's disruptive and I'll try to avoid it but cannot promise in this moment)???


Re: Creating Connection Online #facilitation #learning

 

I registered, too, and am very hopeful about attending but I have another Zoom event that may overlap. Is it okay to arrive late (I know that's disruptive and I'll try to avoid it but cannot promise in this moment)???


Re: For those interested in experimenting with large online events

 

I just joined this group, too late for this event, alas.? Would it be possible to see a recording?


Re: Creating Connection Online #facilitation #learning

 

I just realized that I missed this event by a week.? Any chance I can watch a recording?


Re: Thread for People Trying to do Large (150+) Online Gatherings #large #facilitation #meetingdesign

 

Hi all,
Great to see this thread continuing.?
My client has been looking into the 'all in one' platforms like CVENT and WHOVA (has anyone used WHOVA?). They are apparently extremely professional, seamless and likely too costly. One thing I see missing in these platforms is the 'collaboration' part which you get from discussions in small groups.?
I will suggest looking into Quiqo Chat. I also think Thought Exchange could be a great middle ground if doing breakouts through zoom is deemed too 'risky' (i.e. might not be perfect). A combo of both is also possible.
If anyone has been experimenting and has lessons from the last couple months, please contact me as I would love to chat.?
Best,?
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Re: Mentimeter but billed monthly? #technology #facilitation #hybrid

 

There's a FREE polling tool that works well:? .? It's simple to use and has some decent features.? Here's a pro/con list that a friend of mine did:

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Re: How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

 

Hi Rowan et al,?

For cleaning chats, these are the two I know of:?

Chat clean up the ¡®pro-way with coding instructions¡¯ from John Smith at


Chat clean up ¡®easy version¡¯ by :?


  1. Open the chat transcript .txt file. Select all and copy.?

  2. Paste into a MS Word doc

  3. Highlight one of the time stamps up to and including the From: that sits at the front of the chat message. Copy.

  4. Choose search/replace. Paste what you copied into the search box. Place your cursor in the replace box but don't put anything else in it.

  5. ??Replace each of the numerals in the time stamp with a question mark? (?) - the question mark here serves as a wild card for any digit. Keep the : in the text

  6. Use the drop down box in the lower left for advanced options and select "use wild cards."

  7. Hit search/replace and choose "replace all"?

  8. Voila!


Good luck!?
Michelle

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Re: Mentimeter but billed monthly? #technology #facilitation #hybrid

 

Hi Sara,

I¡¯d recommend AhaSlides, depending on what functionality you need. It¡¯s got a lot of overlap with Mentimeter and PollEverywhere, is billed monthly, and is really easy/fun to work with.

Here¡¯s a write-up I did about testing it out:?

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:58 AM Sara Huang <sara@...> wrote:

Dear all,



Mentimeter, Slido, Polls everywhere..... I believe these instrument all vary just a bit.



I am specifically looking for a tool which is billed monthly, like Zoom is offering.



As I will be using the tool for a hybrid event and the participants on site probably won't use to laptop but will have their phones to give input.



Any recommendation for a tool?

Thanks in advance!









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Re: Mentimeter but billed monthly? #technology #facilitation #hybrid

amalia deloney
 

Of all, I personally like Polls Everywhere the best. You can pay annually for a discount, or monthly for a little more. I¡¯ve used with large groups on laptop, tablet & phone. I like how it works seamlessly with google slides.?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:58 AM Sara Huang <sara@...> wrote:

Dear all,



Mentimeter, Slido, Polls everywhere..... I believe these instrument all vary just a bit.



I am specifically looking for a tool which is billed monthly, like Zoom is offering.



As I will be using the tool for a hybrid event and the participants on site probably won't use to laptop but will have their phones to give input.



Any recommendation for a tool?

Thanks in advance!









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Mentimeter but billed monthly? #technology #facilitation #hybrid

 

Dear all,

Mentimeter, Slido, Polls everywhere..... I believe these instrument all vary just a bit.

I am specifically looking for a tool which is billed monthly, like Zoom is offering.

As I will be using the tool for a hybrid event and the participants on site probably won't use to laptop but will have their phones to give input.

Any recommendation for a tool?

Thanks in advance!


Re: How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

 

Thank you all, especially, Amandy, Carolyn, Caren and John,

This was so useful and works perfectly for what I was looking for!
Rolf, I still have some work to do on learning more about Linux, but thanks for sharing - I am sure there are others on the list who are more skilled at this than me.

/R



On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 15:52, Rolf F: Katzenberger <rolf.katzenberger@...> wrote:

Hi Rowan,

in case you're into processing plain text files from the Linux console, here's what I use.

I'm assuming one is starting from the chat log file created by Zoom: meeting_saved_chat.txt

Cheers,
Rolf


Remove all privately sent messages

(leaves only messages sent to "Everyone")

sed '/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9].*\(Privately\)/,/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]/{/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]/!d}; /^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9].*\(Privately\)/d' meeting_saved_chat.txt > only_messages_to_everyone.txt

a) Remove timestamp & "From", but leave Zoom's ugly "dangling" colon

(results in "John Doe : Hello World!")

sed 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From\ //' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

b) Remove timestamp & "From", but make colon follow name directly

(results in "John Doe: Hello World!")

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \:/\1\:/' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

c) Remove timestamp & "From" & name

(results in "Hello World!")

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \: //' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

d) Remove timestamp & "From" & name, add blank line after each? message

(results in "Hello World!", followed by an empy line)

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \: /\n/' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt



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Rowan Francis Simonsen schrieb am 14.09.20 um 16:36:
A quick question:?

Does anyone have experience with how to export the content of the zoom chat in a cleaned up version, without names and dates of each entry?

I am playing with the idea of copying into a spreadsheet and ordering all posts alphabetically and deleting all the lines that say "From...."

But it seems like there should?be an easier way.

Looking forward to hear what you are learning about this?

Cheers,

Rowan



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Re: How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

Rolf F: Katzenberger
 

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Hi Rowan,

in case you're into processing plain text files from the Linux console, here's what I use.

I'm assuming one is starting from the chat log file created by Zoom: meeting_saved_chat.txt

Cheers,
Rolf


Remove all privately sent messages

(leaves only messages sent to "Everyone")

sed '/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9].*\(Privately\)/,/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]/{/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]/!d}; /^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9].*\(Privately\)/d' meeting_saved_chat.txt > only_messages_to_everyone.txt

a) Remove timestamp & "From", but leave Zoom's ugly "dangling" colon

(results in "John Doe : Hello World!")

sed 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From\ //' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

b) Remove timestamp & "From", but make colon follow name directly

(results in "John Doe: Hello World!")

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \:/\1\:/' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

c) Remove timestamp & "From" & name

(results in "Hello World!")

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \: //' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt

d) Remove timestamp & "From" & name, add blank line after each? message

(results in "Hello World!", followed by an empy line)

sed -r 's/^[0-2][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\:[0-5][0-9]\s*From (.*)\ \: /\n/' only_messages_to_everyone.txt > no_prefix.txt



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Rowan Francis Simonsen schrieb am 14.09.20 um 16:36:

A quick question:?

Does anyone have experience with how to export the content of the zoom chat in a cleaned up version, without names and dates of each entry?

I am playing with the idea of copying into a spreadsheet and ordering all posts alphabetically and deleting all the lines that say "From...."

But it seems like there should?be an easier way.

Looking forward to hear what you are learning about this?

Cheers,

Rowan


Re: How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

 

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Hi Rowan, hi Sean -

This is what I do:

  1. Paste Chat to Word
  2. Convert Text To Table > Separate Text at ":"
  3. Delete first three columns
  4. Convert Table To Text > Separate Text with ":"
    1. If necessary: Replace All ":^p" with "^p" (until no colons are left at the end of rows)
    2. If necessary: Replace All "^p " with "^p" (until no spaces are left at the beginning of rows)
  5. For Miro: Convert Text To Table again, then paste to Board.
  6. For Mural: Paste to Board.

Hope this helps * Wiebke

On 14/09/2020 17:39, Rowan Francis Simonsen wrote:
Hi Sean,
Two main problems I am trying to solve:?
  1. I am trying to find a way where I dont have to go through the notes from the chat and delete all to Names or dates to get a coherent document with minutes from a meeting.
  2. I am trying find a quick way by which?I can take the content from the Zoom chat and add it to a list of post its in Miro or Mural without needing to manually delete all the times and names.
Hope that makes it a little more clear.

R

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 10:28, Sean Murphy <skmurphy@...> wrote:
Rowan: What is the fundamental problem you are trying to solve?

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 7:37 AM Rowan Francis Simonsen <rowan.simonsen@...> wrote:
A quick question:?

Does anyone have experience with how to export the content of the zoom chat in a cleaned up version, without names and dates of each entry?

I am playing with the idea of copying into a spreadsheet and ordering all posts alphabetically and deleting all the lines that say "From...."

But it seems like there should?be an easier way.

Looking forward to hear what you are learning about this?

Cheers,

Rowan


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Re: How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

 

Thanks - this group is fantastic!
John's template (see link above in Caren's post) is amazing - this is what I have been hoping for! And - I think - this is also what you have been searching, Rowan.?

Greetings,
Michaela?

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:14 PM Caren Levine <jlearn20@...> wrote:

Greetings, All!

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Rowan, John D. Smith has a practice of harvesting the chat that he shares on his blog:

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If you scroll down his post, John shares a macro that I suspect it can be adapted for you to get exactly what you need regarding stripping out names.

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John has additional posts about the use of chats here which may be of interest as well:

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(John might be on this list ¡­?)

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Hope this helps!

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Caren

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rowan Francis Simonsen
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:39 AM
To: Sean Murphy <skmurphy@...>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f4c-response] How to export zoom chat data without name and date?

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Hi Sean,

Two main problems I am trying to solve:?

  1. I am trying to find a way where I dont have to go through the notes from the chat and delete all to Names or dates to get a coherent document with minutes from a meeting.
  2. I am trying find a quick way by which?I can take the content from the Zoom chat and add it to a list of post its in Miro or Mural without needing to manually delete all the times and names.

Hope that makes it a little more clear.

?

R

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 10:28, Sean Murphy <skmurphy@...> wrote:

Rowan: What is the fundamental problem you are trying to solve?

?

Sean Murphy 408-252-9676

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 7:37 AM Rowan Francis Simonsen <rowan.simonsen@...> wrote:

A quick question:?

?

Does anyone have experience with how to export the content of the zoom chat in a cleaned up version, without names and dates of each entry?

?

I am playing with the idea of copying into a spreadsheet and ordering all posts alphabetically and deleting all the lines that say "From...."

?

But it seems like there should?be an easier way.

?

Looking forward to hear what you are learning about this?

?

Cheers,

?

Rowan


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