Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Hi lesley,
No these relatives dies, mid 1700s.
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On 10 Jul 2023, at 12:13 am, JA Woodall <jane.woodall2016@...> wrote:
Have you tried the newspapers? Might be a death notice for him??? Hi Margaret,
If he died after 1837, probably the only way to get at least a decent
estimation of his age at death would be on the death registration.? The
GRO are now offering instant digital images of births up to 1922 and
deaths up to 1887 for ?2.50, so probably worth a punt on finding the
right death.? You'll need to sign in, then go to 'Order a digital image'
Lesley
On 07/07/2023 10:37, Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Hi Lesley,
>
> Yes have tried all your suggestions. I have written to St. Margarets Church, but have had no reply.
> I realise after all this time, there wouldn’t be anything left on the headstones, but would like to see if
> I could find records. I have a record of their burial from Find My Past, but trying to find how old
> David was when he died as trying to find his birth. Dont have his parents. I have his marriage and it
> was in Guiseley and says both of this parish, so I assume he was born somewhere else as cant find
> any birth in Guiseley records for him.
>
> Maureen in Oz.
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>> On 7 Jul 2023, at 5:56 pm, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote:
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>> Hi Maureen,
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>> Have you tried the usual sources for burials?? Family Search, Find My Past, Ancestry etc?? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
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>> GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel.? The records were probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for the chapel) was closed.
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>> Lesley
>> Colwyn Bay
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>> On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
>>> Hi Listers,
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>>> I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
>>> find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
>>>
>>> Maureen in Oz.
>>>
>>>
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Log into your account in groups.io - the? photo is visible and zoomable.
Lin
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Hunter
Sent: July 9, 2023 8:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Unusual First Name? The Grandparents are Mary COOPER died 28 May 1840 & John COOPER died 10 Feb 1857. The Parents are Richard Warrener COOPER (Baptised 6 Mar 1820 St Peter & St Paul, Stokesley, buried 3 May 1860 Hampsthwaite) & Dorothy DEARLOVE (Baptised 12 Oct 1823 All Saints Ripley, Married 29 Jul 1845 St Peter, Leeds, buried 15 Jul 1893 Hampstwaite). Both John and Richard are Surgeons and Richard as living in Hirst Grove, Birstwith.
I tried to attach a photograph of the stone to my original message, I'll try again.
BobH
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How did you manage that, Lin? The photo isn't showing for me.
Is there a burial that corresponds to the inscription for Ann/Aitit? Since there may be several of us who have access to burial info but can't see the image, please could you give us the date of death and the surname to look for?
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There is an Ann Cooper baptised 17 June 1853, parents Richard & Doroth, buried 23 June 1853. But (in my defence) I could not see any diagonal lines for the "N"s, but there obviously were particularly when you compare it with the "N" in JUNE.
Thanks for everyone's help.
BobH
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The Grandparents are Mary COOPER died 28 May 1840 & John COOPER died 10 Feb 1857. The Parents are Richard Warrener COOPER (Baptised 6 Mar 1820 St Peter & St Paul, Stokesley, buried 3 May 1860 Hampsthwaite) & Dorothy DEARLOVE (Baptised 12 Oct 1823 All Saints Ripley, Married 29 Jul 1845 St Peter, Leeds, buried 15 Jul 1893 Hampstwaite). Both John and Richard are Surgeons and Richard as living in Hirst Grove, Birstwith.
I tried to attach a photograph of the stone to my original message, I'll try again.
BobH
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The Grandparents are Mary COOPER died 28 May 1840 & John COOPER died 10 Feb 1857. The Parents are Richard Warrener COOPER (Baptised 6 Mar 1820 St Peter & St Paul, Stokesley, buried 3 May 1860 Hampsthwaite) & Dorothy DEARLOVE (Baptised 12 Oct 1823 All Saints Ripley, Married 29 Jul 1845 St Peter, Leeds, buried 15 Jul 1893 Hampstwaite). Both John and Richard are Surgeons and Richard as living in Hirst Grove, Birstwith. I tried to attach a photograph of the stone to my original message, I'll try again. BobH
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Have you tried the newspapers? Might be a death notice for him???
Hi Margaret,
If he died after 1837, probably the only way to get at least a decent
estimation of his age at death would be on the death registration.? The
GRO are now offering instant digital images of births up to 1922 and
deaths up to 1887 for ?2.50, so probably worth a punt on finding the
right death.? You'll need to sign in, then go to 'Order a digital image'
Lesley
On 07/07/2023 10:37, Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Hi Lesley,
>
> Yes have tried all your suggestions. I have written to St. Margarets Church, but have had no reply.
> I realise after all this time, there wouldn’t be anything left on the headstones, but would like to see if
> I could find records. I have a record of their burial from Find My Past, but trying to find how old
> David was when he died as trying to find his birth. Dont have his parents. I have his marriage and it
> was in Guiseley and says both of this parish, so I assume he was born somewhere else as cant find
> any birth in Guiseley records for him.
>
> Maureen in Oz.
>
>
>> On 7 Jul 2023, at 5:56 pm, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maureen,
>>
>> Have you tried the usual sources for burials?? Family Search, Find My Past, Ancestry etc?? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
>>
>> GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel.? The records were probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for the chapel) was closed.
>>
>> Lesley
>> Colwyn Bay
>>
>> On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
>>> find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
>>>
>>> Maureen in Oz.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Hi Margaret,
If he died after 1837, probably the only way to get at least a decent estimation of his age at death would be on the death registration.? The GRO are now offering instant digital images of births up to 1922 and deaths up to 1887 for ?2.50, so probably worth a punt on finding the right death.? You'll need to sign in, then go to 'Order a digital image'
Lesley
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On 07/07/2023 10:37, Maureen Farrer wrote: Hi Lesley,
Yes have tried all your suggestions. I have written to St. Margarets Church, but have had no reply.
I realise after all this time, there wouldn’t be anything left on the headstones, but would like to see if
I could find records. I have a record of their burial from Find My Past, but trying to find how old
David was when he died as trying to find his birth. Dont have his parents. I have his marriage and it
was in Guiseley and says both of this parish, so I assume he was born somewhere else as cant find
any birth in Guiseley records for him.
Maureen in Oz.
On 7 Jul 2023, at 5:56 pm, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen,
Have you tried the usual sources for burials? Family Search, Find My Past, Ancestry etc? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel. The records were probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for the chapel) was closed.
Lesley
Colwyn Bay
On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Listers,
I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
Maureen in Oz.
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Re: GRO births and deaths
Hi Diane
Births 1837 to 1922 and deaths 1837 to 1887
I presume (hope) they will expand the deaths once the initial rush has settled down
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 08/07/2023 23:13, Diane wrote: Thank you, LIn!? That was the best news I've read all day.? I've ordered dozens of records over the past few decades but still have a long to-do list. I noticed that pre-1890 births and deaths seem to be available for instant access, but thus far, nothing from 1890 onward.? I'm sure they'll add more over time.? This is a fantastic start.
Take care,
Diane
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Re: GRO births and deaths
Digital Images are only available for Births 1837-1922 and Deaths 1837-1887.
Lin
Thank you, LIn!? That was the best news I've read all day.? I've ordered dozens of records over the past few decades but still have a long to-do list. I noticed that pre-1890 births and deaths seem to be available for instant access, but thus far, nothing from 1890 onward.? I'm sure they'll add more over time.? This is a fantastic start.
Take care,
Diane
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What was the surname Bob ?
Perhaps something can be found in the baptisms or burials for Hampsthwaite
Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)
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On 07/07/2023 10:33, Bob Hunter wrote: I recently had the opportunity of visiting the Church in Hampsthwaite and found the grave of the father and mother-in-law of a 2nd great aunt.? This listed a number of grand children (children of my aunt) who had died in their infancy and who were new to me. There were/are two *Elizas*, an *Alice* and another called *Aitit* (I think). I've not come across this name before, is it that unusual? Am I right in my transcription? Is it an abbreviation, what does it mean? Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts? Its interesting that the name was clearly carved at a different time to the rest of the stone, suggesting that even the mason wasn't sure of it.
BobH
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Re: GRO births and deaths
Thank you, LIn!? That was the best news I've read all day.? I've ordered dozens of records over the past few decades but still have a long to-do list. I noticed that pre-1890 births and deaths seem to be available for instant access, but thus far, nothing from 1890 onward.? I'm sure they'll add more over time.? This is a fantastic start.
Take care,
Diane
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Bob, do you have a photo? Ken iPad
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On Jul 8, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Bob Hunter <rmwhunter@...> wrote:
?I recently had the opportunity of visiting the Church in Hampsthwaite and found the grave of the father and mother-in-law of a 2nd great aunt.? This listed a number of grand children (children of my aunt) who had died in their infancy and who were new to me. There were/are two Elizas, an Alice and another called Aitit (I think). I've not come across this name before, is it that unusual? Am I right in my transcription? Is it an abbreviation, what does it mean? Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts? Its interesting that the name was clearly carved at a different time to the rest of the stone, suggesting that even the mason wasn't sure of it. BobH 
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Thanks Tricia. They are all there. Twins and a stillborn. My adoptive moms children.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "trisha walker via groups.io" <jackgeorgeisaac@...> Date: 2023-07-08 1:53 p.m. (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Horsforth Peace Garden
Is this website any good??
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Trisha?
On Friday, July 7, 2023, 10:18 am, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote: Hi Maureen,
Have you tried the usual sources for burials?? Family Search, Find My
Past, Ancestry etc?? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a
Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current
St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel.? The records were
probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for
the chapel) was closed.
Lesley
Colwyn Bay
On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
> find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
>
> Maureen in Oz.
>
>
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Re: Any ideas about age difference in marriage?
Orinally I? thought Ann might have worked on the farm but I think? it more likely that she worked as his housekeeper which is why she was living in Kirk Bramwith as mentioned in the? marriage? bond. It would have been a marriage of? convenience. I feel? happier with that explanation rather than my original thought that she had got into trouble!
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023, 23:27 Margaret Shearing via , <m.shearing.47= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to thank? everyone for their advice and thoughts which have been helpful. Margaret?
On Thu, 29 Jun 2023, 13:00 Martin Briscoe (W10 laptop), < list@...> wrote: I have always just put it down to there being the need for financial support and somewhere to live.? The options for a single woman were very limited and not always good. ? One of my Great Great Grandmothers was Irish / Canadian and married my Great Great Grandfather in Quebec, they had a son there in 1844 then the regiment returned to England.? My Great Grandmother was born whilst the regiment was in Chester, the regiment left for Ireland soon after the birth.? He died in Ireland in the following year so she was left with two infants – I don’t think the Army gave a pension to a widow. Next record has her in Yorkshire in the 1851 Census as the pauper widow of a soldier (I suspect his Yorkshire family might have arrange a cottage for her live in).? She remarried in 1854, she was probably about 32 and her husband 75.? He appears to have been a neighbour and I presume it was a marriage of convenience, he died a few years later. ? ? ? Martin Briscoe
martin@...
Fort William
Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507) ? ? I wondered if any of you knowledgeable people may be able to explain the big age difference.
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
I have 3? siblings buried at old St Margaret's. I would also like to know about them. Susan Cook Canada
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Lesley Baxendale (FH)" <tree.dovercourt17@...> Date: 2023-07-07 2:18 a.m. (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [yorksgen] Horsforth Peace Garden
Hi Maureen, Have you tried the usual sources for burials?? Family Search, Find My Past, Ancestry etc?? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden. GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel.? The records were probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for the chapel) was closed. Lesley Colwyn Bay On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to > find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this. > > Maureen in Oz. > >
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Is this website any good??
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Trisha?
On Friday, July 7, 2023, 10:18 am, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote: Hi Maureen,
Have you tried the usual sources for burials?? Family Search, Find My
Past, Ancestry etc?? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a
Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current
St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel.? The records were
probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for
the chapel) was closed.
Lesley
Colwyn Bay
On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
> find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
>
> Maureen in Oz.
>
>
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Recent NLS acquisition: Wood atlas of towns of North-east England
I am not on any lists for further North than Yorkshire at the moment, if anyone is then could they perhaps post something about these as they could be of use to people there.
Recent NLS acquisition: Wood atlas of towns of North-east England
Martin Briscoe
martin@...
Fort William
Ancestry DNA, FTDNA (B68554), GEDMatch (A374507), MyHeritage MH-4MN878
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Re: Horsforth Peace Garden
Hi Lesley,
Yes have tried all your suggestions. I have written to St. Margarets Church, but have had no reply.
I realise after all this time, there wouldn’t be anything left on the headstones, but would like to see if
I could find records. I have a record of their burial from Find My Past, but trying to find how old
David was when he died as trying to find his birth. Dont have his parents. I have his marriage and it
was in Guiseley and says both of this parish, so I assume he was born somewhere else as cant find
any birth in Guiseley records for him.
Maureen in Oz.
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On 7 Jul 2023, at 5:56 pm, Lesley Baxendale (FH) <tree.dovercourt17@...> wrote:
Hi Maureen,
Have you tried the usual sources for burials? Family Search, Find My Past, Ancestry etc? They all have Yorkshire burials listed. Find a Grave has a few listings for the Peace Garden.
GenUKi might be helpful too, as would contacting someone at the current St Margaret's Church, which replaced the old chapel. The records were probably passed on to them when the 'Old Bell Tower' (the local name for the chapel) was closed.
Lesley
Colwyn Bay
On 06/07/2023 23:40, Maureen Farrer wrote:
Hi Listers,
I am looking for grave sites in the Horsforth Peace Garden as this was the old St.Margaret’s Chapel. I have two ancestors buried there and would like to know how to
find out if there is a record of burials I could look at and who to contact regarding this.
Maureen in Oz.
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Bob Hunter
Nivard Ovington