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Mac, some years back you were looking for a cap for hour tire pump. I just ran across in my collection of parts. Do you still need it to make your beautiful bike complete?
All R90sWorldnet members:
As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted.
I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. and There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
(Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha...
If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable!
We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). Or You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues.
Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.?
Thanks, and Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it.
I'm looking forward?to hearing from you,
Best,
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Thanks James (Wonder), very helpful!!
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:15?PM James Wonder < jwonder@...> wrote: Hans, et. Al.
First I will introduce myself, I am James Wonder and I am the ¡°tech nerd¡± for the VBMWMO and I will answer as many questions as possible on technology here inline and do my best to answer any new ones anyone may have along the way as we migrate.? I have also copied Kurt Schrader on this email, as Kurt is our most wonderful forum owner/manager!
Second, for some background, we use the??for the forums and it is very robust with a great user community.? Because of this it is quite easy to add features to the system, hence we are able to respond to wishes you may have now and in the future.? Over the past several years we have added features to the forum based on member feedback and I do have a small list that I am continuing to work on (which includes a ¡°like¡± button on topics which we do not have yet, but coming soon).
Third, to answer your question, there is a fairly robust email function that you can customize to your liking.? Please see the links below:
1) Go to:??and you can customize WHAT emails you would like to get.? I have them all set on!? This page will allow you to customize your options for getting more or less email, hence getting more or less work done¡. ;-). The explanations are below:
2) You can subscribe to the whole forum by clicking the ¡°Subscribe Forum¡± link at the very bottom of the page (in the blue area) or by clicking here if you are already have an account:?. When you subscribe to a forum, and have everything checked in the notification options you will get an email when person creates a new topic or replies to one.
3) If you do NOT want to get a notification for everything in the R 90 S forum, you can subscribe or bookmark a specific topic by clicking on the down arrow next to the wrench icon.? You can also email the topic to yourself or print it from there.
What we do NOT have right now that you may want is the ability to send the text of the whole new topic or post to you at the time of the post like ?does.? Nor do we have the ability to create a ¡°digest" a forum/topic update for nightly sending. I will be looking into both of those as we go forward.
I hope this helps, and I am here (and on the forum) to help in whatever you may need going forward.
If there is anything you need/want please let me know.
James
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From:? <hanskauf@...>Date: Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 1:53?PM Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet To: < [email protected]> Mac, Thank you for your leadership on this and the VBMWMO club to which I am also a member. Migrating the data to the VBMWMO site makes sense. I will claim some ignorance on groups, Listserv's, and social media in general so this may be a dumb question. Will this change how we receive notices that there are posts regarding the R90S discussion/topics? Put another way, I currently receive an occasional email that lets me know that someone has posted. I click the link in the email and enjoy a respite from whatever I was doing (like work) and engage or just read the current topic. If this info gets moved to the VBMWMC Owners club website, will I still receive the email notices that I get now or will I need to remember to log on to the website and proactively seek this experience rather than getting the nudge via email? Thanks for the clarification. Hans Kaufmann Oakland CA
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Sorry Darryl¡but? Darryl Richmond may be of good help with a transfer.? If my old brain remembers correctly, Darryl was involved with developing the VBMW website???? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of James Marciano Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 9:29 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet ? Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-) Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from . ? On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander <rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):? ? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Hans, et. Al.
First I will introduce myself, I am James Wonder and I am the ¡°tech nerd¡± for the VBMWMO and I will answer as many questions as possible on technology here inline and do my best to answer any new ones anyone may have along the way as we migrate. ?I have also copied Kurt Schrader on this email, as Kurt is our most wonderful forum owner/manager!
Second, for some background, we use the??for the forums and it is very robust with a great user community. ?Because of this it is quite easy to add features to the system, hence we are able to respond to wishes you may have now and in the future. ?Over the past several years we have added features to the forum based on member feedback and I do have a small list that I am continuing to work on (which includes a ¡°like¡± button on topics which we do not have yet, but coming soon).
Third, to answer your question, there is a fairly robust email function that you can customize to your liking. ?Please see the links below:
1) Go to:??and you can customize WHAT emails you would like to get. ?I have them all set on! ?This page will allow you to customize your options for getting more or less email, hence getting more or less work done¡. ;-). The explanations are below:
2) You can subscribe to the whole forum by clicking the ¡°Subscribe Forum¡± link at the very bottom of the page (in the blue area) or by clicking here if you are already have an account:?. When you subscribe to a forum, and have everything checked in the notification options you will get an email when person creates a new topic or replies to one.
3) If you do NOT want to get a notification for everything in the R 90 S forum, you can subscribe or bookmark a specific topic by clicking on the down arrow next to the wrench icon. ?You can also email the topic to yourself or print it from there.
What we do NOT have right now that you may want is the ability to send the text of the whole new topic or post to you at the time of the post like ?does. ?Nor do we have the ability to create a ¡°digest" a forum/topic update for nightly sending. I will be looking into both of those as we go forward.
I hope this helps, and I am here (and on the forum) to help in whatever you may need going forward.
If there is anything you need/want please let me know.
James
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From:? <hanskauf@...>Date: Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 1:53?PM Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet To: < [email protected]> Mac, Thank you for your leadership on this and the VBMWMO club to which I am also a member. Migrating the data to the VBMWMO site makes sense. I will claim some ignorance on groups, Listserv's, and social media in general so this may be a dumb question. Will this change how we receive notices that there are posts regarding the R90S discussion/topics? Put another way, I currently receive an occasional email that lets me know that someone has posted. I click the link in the email and enjoy a respite from whatever I was doing (like work) and engage or just read the current topic. If this info gets moved to the VBMWMC Owners club website, will I still receive the email notices that I get now or will I need to remember to log on to the website and proactively seek this experience rather than getting the nudge via email? Thanks for the clarification. Hans Kaufmann Oakland CA
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Mac,
Thank you for your leadership on this and the VBMWMO club to which I am also a member. Migrating the data to the VBMWMO site makes sense. I will claim some ignorance on groups, Listserv's, and social media in general so this may be a dumb question. Will this change how we receive notices that there are posts regarding the R90S discussion/topics? Put another way, I currently receive an occasional email that lets me know that someone has posted. I click the link in the email and enjoy a respite from whatever I was doing (like work) and engage or just read the current topic. If this info gets moved to the VBMWMC Owners club website, will I still receive the email notices that I get now or will I need to remember to log on to the website and proactively seek this experience rather than getting the nudge via email?
Thanks for the clarification.
Hans Kaufmann
Oakland CA
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Give got? no reason to object...
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Herb Goedecke <herbg1000@...> wrote: Count me in for the merger with VBMWO.? I find the Forums a bit easier to navigate than this format so I'm completely in favour! Thanks Mac for all of your work on keeping this group and information together.? I have reviewed the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners site as you suggested. I agree with the overall sentiment that efficiency and continuity will result from merging these groups. I appreciate the opportunity to provide input. Denny Grossman
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:54?AM Mac Kirkpatrick < drbeemer73@...> wrote: Again, thanks James!?
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:29?AM James Marciano < marciano@...> wrote: Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-)
Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from .
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander < rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Count me in for the merger with VBMWO.? I find the Forums a bit easier to navigate than this format so I'm completely in favour!
Thanks Mac for all of your work on keeping this group and information together.? I have reviewed the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners site as you suggested. I agree with the overall sentiment that efficiency and continuity will result from merging these groups. I appreciate the opportunity to provide input. Denny Grossman
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:54?AM Mac Kirkpatrick < drbeemer73@...> wrote: Again, thanks James!?
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:29?AM James Marciano < marciano@...> wrote: Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-)
Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from .
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander < rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
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Thanks Mac for all of your work on keeping this group and information together.? I have reviewed the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners site as you suggested. I agree with the overall sentiment that efficiency and continuity will result from merging these groups. I appreciate the opportunity to provide input. Denny Grossman
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:54?AM Mac Kirkpatrick < drbeemer73@...> wrote: Again, thanks James!?
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:29?AM James Marciano < marciano@...> wrote: Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-)
Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from .
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander < rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Mac, I support your proposal.
Full disclosure, I am already a member of VBMWMO.?
Mit freundlichen Gr¨¹?en/With best regards,
Dennis O'Dell
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On 11. Aug 2023, at 00:05, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
? All R90sWorldnet members:
As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted.
I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. and There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
(Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha...
If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable!
We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). Or You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues.
Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.?
Thanks, and Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it.
I'm looking forward?to hearing from you,
Best,
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Again, thanks James!?
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:29?AM James Marciano < marciano@...> wrote: Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-)
Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from .
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander < rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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Thanks for everyone's input - sounds like we have a lot of enthusiasm to move to the Vintage club forum, which I'm all in favor of. Like others?have said, I'm happy to consolidate the number of places to find information. I'm also hopeful that because there are so few of us, that we can all get along on one platform :-)
Mac - if you decide to go this way, LMK and I can help look into the transfer from .
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:58?AM Robert Alexander < rockersbmw@...> wrote: I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ? ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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I like Mac & others idea of moving our communication to the Vintage Club. ? Bob Alexander ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Darryl Richman Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 5:35 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [R90SWORLDNET] Proposal to the Members of the R90sWorldnet ? See it for yourself:? . ? In order to be able to join the community chat, you need a login, which is free.? Go here to get a free account (if you decide later to join the club, you can upgrade):?
? ? Hi Mac What are the downsides of moving this forum and associated materials to VBMWMO?? Would there be additional navigation to get to the R90S communications and associated materials? Would one be able to have the same ease of posting and communications with other R90S enthusiasts, or would one need to wade through communications with enthusiasts of all the other vintage BMW models? Let us know more about the pros and cons so we can provide an informed response. ? On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 3:05?PM Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote: All R90sWorldnet members: As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted. I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you! I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see (Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha... If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S. Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable! We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good. You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.) If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues. Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.? Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it. I'm looking forward?to hearing from you, "After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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I did not respond to the posted question because I didn¡¯t see it, I only visit the R90S Club website occasionally even though it is the #2 listed bookmark on my iPad.
I¡¯m a member of the Airheads and Vintage clubs as well as the MOA. The MOA does not interest me much at all as the newer bikes don¡¯t interest me. I¡¯m a member pretty much to get the roadside coverage.
This list has been a huge help to me but with that said it¡¯s awkward to read and respond to in its format. This has been brought up before with all the pros and cons. I don¡¯t mind it but I¡¯m old and a long time Airhead rider. Im guessing new or young riders wouldn¡¯t even bother to look at it in this format. I greatly appreciate it¡just saying.
I¡¯m all for combining all of the various lists, clubs, etc., into one. I believe this is the best chance for the survival and growth of vintage and classic BMW¡¯s. Encompass all one and two cylinder BMW¡¯s up to 1995. For a number of reasons. So many of us are members of at least 2 out of 3 organizations, there¡¯s a lot of overlap, and by combining resources and energy a single entity should be far better than a few smaller ones.
I¡¯m scrambling to keep up with social media like many from my generation. But that is where the younger riders go and as far as R90S bikes, vintage Airheads, etc., the sites that support these bikes are fairly out of date. It seems to me if vintage BMWs are going to thrive, this segment of bikes need a serious modern PR campaign.
I also believe how the tech info is displayed and accessed needs a serious updating. With all respect I believe Snowbum¡¯s site can be compared to the book Zen and the Art of M/C Maintenance in that I firmly believe only two people have ever read either one all the way through.. the authors and maybe one other person. No way a 30 something rider who just found an Airhead to restore would spend 5 minutes on that site.
We have one of the best vintage brands of m/c¡¯s to enjoy. And with all the independent suppliers, YouTube videos, prices falling, and even our own podcast we maybe entering the Golden Age for Airhead motorcycle ownership. Is this a good time to look at restructuring?
Peter McMahon
1976 R90S
1977 R100S
1983 R80ST
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Mac, huge thanks for keeping this community going. I support the suggestion to migrate to VBMWMO as opposed to keeping it on this email server.?
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I love the move, I'm in that website often.? Member there for a few years now
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 08:45:51 PM MST, Kelly Fry <ksf@...> wrote:
Mac,
Appreciate your work over the years. I for one think it's a smart move to VBMWMO.
Once the move was made from Yahoo, I always found the group mesages a little clunky.
Now I just need to re-up my membership at VBMWMO.
Best,
Kelly
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Mac,
Appreciate your work over the years. I for one think it's a smart move to VBMWMO.
Once the move was made from Yahoo, I always found the group mesages a little clunky.
Now I just need to re-up my membership at VBMWMO.
Best,
Kelly
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Good idea to consolidate. The /5 and /2 .io lists might want to do the same.
At some point it seems logical that the ABC will somehow merge with VBMWMO too.
Jerry Hale
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Mac, ?thank you for your service, and thanks to J M for stepping up. ?Surely we can all get on board w/ ? Vintage ?bmw.?
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On Aug 10, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Mac Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
All R90sWorldnet members:
As the owner of the R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago, truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in there for so long), I was contacted recently by the host of our group, io, who told me it would cost $20 per month to continue to support our group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen beyond the free threshold, and from now on more data than this threshold will mean data will be automatically deleted.
I posted to the R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from the R90sWorldnet members but only received one response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year to keep things going as they are, thank you James, that is very gracious of you!
I don't feel it is right for James to do that and I am unwilling to pay myself, for several reasons: No one else sent me any thoughts about this which?infers there?is little/no interest in saving member data, or you don't know what to suggest to do about it. and There is a better alternative which is as follows:? The Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners, see
(Upfront: I have worked with and for this group for many years and am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.) Ha...
If you go to the VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find an immense amount of information; we host Bob (Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers out), all the club magazines are digitized, readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can see tons of information such as the owner's manuals (some in both English & German), repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil routing, videos, model information such as VIN range and... The Forums, where model ranges are presented so members can ask questions from the experts. *Including* the area called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
Why am I telling you this? Because I feel this is a better alternative since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability available, so *it will store everything*, from all emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S members will post.? AND it is all searchable!
We think we can move all the data from the R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums, the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
You can join the VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we do have mounting costs) and you will receive our quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer). Or You can join for free, in which case you won't receive the magazine or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
If we do this the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then have a better alternative and there is no sense in having duplicate?venues.
Please send me your thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.?
Thanks, and Thanks again to James Marciano for taking the initiative to look into this and contact me about it.
I'm looking forward?to hearing from you,
Best,
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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I am fairly new to BMWs, having bought my first as a project just before COVID (an R100RS) and shortly thereafter a 90S project. This forum has proven invaluable to me and many of the members helpful so if it's information can be transferred to the vintage BMW group (also really helpful), that would be great.
Richard.
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Hi Peter, both the R90sWorldnet members as well as the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners members are from all over the world. They are both international.
Thanks Peter,
Mac Kirkpatrick Glenmoore, PA
"After all, what is adventure, but inconvenience, properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 7:39?PM PJ GAUTILLE < PGAUTILLE@...> wrote:
Thank you Mac. Appreciate the update and
options. I'm new to the R90SWORLDNET Group since about Jan of
2023.
Don't recall seeing your email on this subject? I think it's a
GREAT SITE and GROUP of R90S owners.
I would be willing to pay to keep it running ie. data charges etc.
However, if you feel VBMW is the better way to go - I'll
also do that. I am already subscribed to it and it is also a
wealth of knowledge. I just liked the international appeal of
R90SWORLDNET, as you hear from R90S owners all over the planet.
Just my 2 cents.
Best Regards,
Peter G./ San Diego
1973 BMW R90S
On 8/10/2023 3:34 PM, OLD BMWS via
wrote:
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 06:05:07 PM EDT, Mac
Kirkpatrick <drbeemer73@...> wrote:
All
R90sWorldnet members:
As the owner of the
R90sWorldnet (I started it maybe 20-25 years ago,
truly amazing and gratifying you guys have hung in
there for so long), I was contacted recently by
the host of our group, io, who told me it would
cost $20 per month to continue to support our
group IF we wanted io to continue to store all our
emails, pictures, etc., as our volume has risen
beyond the free threshold, and from now on more
data than this threshold will mean data will be
automatically deleted.
I posted to the
R90sWorldnet asking for feedback about this from
the R90sWorldnet members but only received one
response, from James Marciano. We spoke yesterday
and he offered to pay the $240/year for one year
to keep things going as they are, thank you James,
that is very gracious of you!
I don't feel it is
right for James to do that and I am unwilling to
pay myself, for several reasons:
No one else sent me
any thoughts about this which?infers there?is
little/no interest in saving member data, or you
don't know what to suggest to do about it.
and
There is a better
alternative which is as follows:?
The Vintage BMW
Motorcycle Owners, see
(Upfront: I have
worked with and for this group for many years and
am currently the president,?the Grand Pu-bah ?.)
Ha...
If you go to the
VBMWMO site above, and cruise around you will find
an immense amount of information; we host Bob
(Snowbum) Fleischer's site for instance, as well
as John's Beemer Garage and more), there is a
buy/sell area (members only, to keep spammers
out), all the club magazines are digitized,
readable and searchable for all 50 years, you can
see tons of information such as the owner's
manuals (some in both English & German),
repair manuals, electrical diagrams, engine oil
routing, videos, model information such as VIN
range and...
The Forums, where
model ranges are presented so members can ask
questions from the experts. *Including* the area
called "The Incomparable R90S" which I added as
the R90S model is pivotal and crucial in BMW's
history. And like you, I really love the R90S.
Why am I telling you
this? Because I feel this is a better alternative
since the VBMWMO has unlimited storage capability
available, so *it will store everything*, from all
emails, to all pictures, just everything us R90S
members will post.?
AND it is all
searchable!
We
think we can move all the data from the
R90sWorldnet to the VBMWMO site under Forums,
the Incomparable R90S :-) so that is good.
You can join the
VBMWMO?as a paying member (preferred, we
do have mounting costs) and you will receive our
quarterly magazine (digital if you prefer).
Or
You can join for
free, in which case you won't receive the magazine
or have access to the Buy/Sell area (again, to
keep out spammers, they won't pay to join.)
If we do this
the?R90sWorldnet?will go away because we will then
have a better alternative and there is no sense in
having duplicate?venues.
Please send me your
thoughts,?ideas, suggestions, anything at all.?
Thanks,
and
Thanks again to James
Marciano for taking the initiative to look into
this and contact me about it.
I'm looking forward?to
hearing
from you,
Best,
Mac
Kirkpatrick
Glenmoore,
PA
"After
all, what is
adventure, but
inconvenience,
properly regarded?"
C. Donahue
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