Re: Issue opening File Backstage View using Alt + F in Word 365.
Brian, ? When I just press the alt key alone, Jaws states “menu Bar”, but then I cannot arrow or tab either left or right. I can only down-arrow through system settings. This behavior is very strange and only started about a week or two back when I first noticed it. As I work on this email in outlook, when I press alt here Jaws says, “virtual ribbons, message tab” which if I recall correctly, Jaws would state “virtual ribbon” in Word before things changed. ? Eileen ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue opening File Backstage View using Alt + F in Word 365.? The first question is what happens when you hit Alt, just Alt, as far as the next keystroke options that are presented. I'm curious as to whether F occurs at all.? ?Here's a speech log from NVDA of what I hear when I hit Alt (focus is on the Home ribbon first) and then left arrow once, then right arrow a few times until I've hit the Draw tab for that ribbon. Ribbon Tabs ?tab control ?expanded
Home ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? H ?2 of 13
File Tab ?button ?Alt, ? F ?1 of 13
Ribbon Tabs ?tab control ?expanded
Home ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? H ?2 of 13
Insert ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? N ?3 of 13
Draw ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? J ? ? I ?4 of 13 Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: Issue opening File Backstage View using Alt + F in Word 365.
The first question is what happens when you hit Alt, just Alt, as far as the next keystroke options that are presented.
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I'm curious as to whether F occurs at all.? ?Here's a speech log from NVDA of what I hear when I hit Alt (focus is on the Home ribbon first) and then left arrow once, then right arrow a few times until I've hit the Draw tab for that ribbon.
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Ribbon Tabs ?tab control ?expanded
Home ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? H ?2 of 13
File Tab ?button ?Alt, ? F ?1 of 13
Ribbon Tabs ?tab control ?expanded
Home ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? H ?2 of 13
Insert ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? N ?3 of 13
Draw ?tab ?selected ?Alt, ? J ? ? I ?4 of 13
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Issue opening File Backstage View using Alt + F in Word 365.
Hi All,
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I’m using MS Word that is a part of my Microsoft 365 package on a Win 11 computer using most recent version of JAWS.
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I’ve been having an issue when in a document in Word. I make changes/edits then when I attempt to get to the Save options under the file menu, I can’t pull up the File menu any longer with keystroke Alt + F.? I? can only save by doing a Control+S.? Anyone have thoughts on what has happened that I can no longer pull up the menu with Alt+F anymore?
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Thanks for any pointers.
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Eileen
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Re: FW: [nvda] FW: Free Webinar: The Windows Screen Reader Primer, 4th Edition Launch
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FW: [nvda] FW: Free Webinar: The Windows Screen Reader Primer, 4th Edition Launch
Hi all, We are launching the fourth edition of my book on May 6 via Zoom. See below if you would like to register for the webinar. Regards, David ? From: The Carroll Center for the Blind <news@...>
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
The Ctrl + Tab (and, of course, Ctrl + Shift + Tab to reverse direction) is another excellent choice.? It has a traversal cycle of:? Control Tabs List (mail, calendar, etc.), Folder Tree, Message List.? This is a technique that's new to me (we all tend to land on one we know and like, and then use it, and mine is generally F6).
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As Alan Robbins noted, if you're in the message list for any given mailbox, hitting Ctrl + Shift + Tab will throw focus back to the Folder Tree with the current mailbox being the actual folder with focus.
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Here is what I do. Say I’m in my inbox, I hit Ctrl, shift, tab and that lands me in a list of all folders in Outlook, I simply arrow down to a folder I want to delete, rename, etc. and hit applications key and arrow to the choice I want.
Hope this helps.
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Alan
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 1:39 PM
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Clasic
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Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders.
Tried all I can find on Google etc.
F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list.
Anyone have any ideas please?
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Shannon,
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Have you tried NVDA or Narrator?? Do they behave in the same way as JAWS?? This could very well be a JAWS problem, and the easiest way to rule that in or out is to use an alternate screen reader to see if the behavior persists or does not.
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
F6 and shift F6 has ?always worked in the past, but I am experiencing the same issue now it started over the weekend and I’m not sure why it started but when I press F6 or shift f6, jaws ? ?just stays silent. It is also ?very difficult to navigate ?through messages. No matter what folder I am ?in. I have to arrow up and then arrow down to hear the next ? message this ? ? ? ? a recent problem and I’m not sure what is causing it, but I’m sure like to know how to solve it my side husband says when he looks at the screen when this is doing this, for some reason has the outlook screen minimized
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 06:51 AM, George B wrote:
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No, it doesn't.? Ctrl + Y brings up the Go To Folder dialog.? If you select a folder here and hit OK, you do NOT end up with focus in the folder tree, but in the message list for the folder selected.
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The original query:? "?I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders."? You cannot gain focus on the folder tree itself with the Go To Folder dialog, you gain focus on a chosen folder's message list.? This does not allow you to start deleting folders afterward.? You still have to navigate to the folder tree itself, first.
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Re: How do I combine two inboxes into a single one.
Is their a way to make this permanent? Here on my work computer after my computer restarts the
focused inbox is checked again.
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Steve Cook, CPM
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SC Commission for the Blind
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Work Cell: (803) 903-3856
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Subject: [External] Re: [M365-Accessibility] How do I combine two inboxes into a single one.
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Hi Kevin,
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You’ve been hit by the Microsoft outlook focused inbox trick.? Grins! ?I’ve seen this a few times.? Here’s the fix.? While in outlook, move your screen reader’s focus to the view tab.? Once its there, press
tab until you reach the focused inbox option and press space on it.? This should switch things back to normal. Hope this helps.
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Tony
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Hi.
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A few months ago I clicked on a link in a message. I’m not exactly remembering what happened, but Outlook did some updating. Ever since then, I have two inboxes in my email. One gets a few messages, and the
other one gets plenty of messages. Is there a way to combine these inboxes into a single one?
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Technology, ya gotta love it, especially when it has a mind of its own.
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Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
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Kevin and Lily
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Clasic? Shift F6 is working here, give that a try ? Steve Cook If you would like to join my Smart Glasses group in which all Smart Glasses can be discussed. Sen a message to [email protected] and put Subscribe in the subject field. Then once subscribed, to send a message to the group use Smartglasses@groups.IO ? ? Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders. Tried all I can find on Google etc. F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list. Anyone have any ideas please? ?
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Shift F6 is working here, give that a try ? Steve Cook If you would like to join my Smart Glasses group in which all Smart Glasses can be discussed. Sen a message to [email protected] and put Subscribe in the subject field. Then once subscribed, to send a message to the group use Smartglasses@groups.IO ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 1:39 PM
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Clasic? Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders. Tried all I can find on Google etc. F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list. Anyone have any ideas please? ?
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 04:54 PM, Brian Lee wrote:
The sequence of keys to use are Alt followed by V, followed by y, followed by 2, followed by F.
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Just FYI, that sequence does not exist for me in Outlook Classic.? After Alt + V, there is no Y option.? I suspect you may have an add-in that shifts some of your shortcuts (I have these in Word, but not Outlook).
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The Alt + F1 option cycles the Folder Tree between: hidden, minimized, and maximized (on full view, which is the default).
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If the Folder Tree is hidden, one definitely can't traverse something that's not on the screen.? But in minimized and maximized formats, it does get landed on during the F6 cycle.
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Hello Steven, ? You might want to make sure the folder pane is set to normal.? The sequence of keys to use are Alt followed by V, followed by y, followed by 2, followed by F.? Check to see if the Normal option is checked.? If not, press enter key on the Normal option.? If you also want Favorites at the top of the Folder list then go back into the menu where you chose Normal, and use down arrow key to the Favorites option and press enter to check it if it is not checked already. ?You should then be able to use shift F6 from your message list to get into the Folders list. ? Take care. ?? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:39 AM
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Clasic? Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders. Tried all I can find on Google etc. F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list. Anyone have any ideas please? ?
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Try pressing alt plus F1. I believe this will show/hide the navigation/folder list sidebar.
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On Apr 16, 2025, at 13:31, Brian Vogel via groups.io <britechguy@...> wrote: ? If F6 doesn't eventually cycle through the Folder Tree, then something's wrong.? That's one of the "visitation areas" that F6 moves through on its cycle.
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Ctrl + Y brings up the "Go to Folder" dialog, where you can select a folder and then after selecting the folder, your focus is thrown to the first message contained in that folder, but not the folder tree itself.
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When you are in any folder's message list, Shift + F6 should always throw focus back to the Folder Tree from the message list.? It's directly prior to the message list itself in the F6 traversal cycle.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
If F6 doesn't eventually cycle through the Folder Tree, then something's wrong.? That's one of the "visitation areas" that F6 moves through on its cycle.
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Ctrl + Y brings up the "Go to Folder" dialog, where you can select a folder and then after selecting the folder, your focus is thrown to the first message contained in that folder, but not the folder tree itself.
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When you are in any folder's message list, Shift + F6 should always throw focus back to the Folder Tree from the message list.? It's directly prior to the message list itself in the F6 traversal cycle.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
You can try.
CTRL + letter Y.
To go to the folder list.
Gaston
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks via groups.io Sent: April 16, 2025 1:39 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Clasic Whatever I do, I can't seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders. Tried all I can find on Google etc. F6 Doesn't go to the folder list. Anyone have any ideas please?
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Re: Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Shift+F6 should take you there.
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On Wednesday, 16 April 2025 at 18:39:10 BST, Steven Hicks via groups.io <steven_hickssm@...> wrote:
Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders.
Tried all I can find on Google etc.
F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list.
Anyone have any ideas please?
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Wayne Senior
Latest stable versions of NVDA, JAWS and Narrator.
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Microsoft Office 365 Outlook Classic
Whatever I do, I can’t seem to bring back the folder list so I can actually delete some folders.
Tried all I can find on Google etc.
F6 Doesn’t go to the folder list.
Anyone have any ideas please?
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Brian Vogel
