Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:14 PM, Leo Bado wrote:
Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase?
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When they say, "Existing subscribers won't experience price changes until their next renewal, "? you can be darned sure that price increases will be involved.
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But, you can be equally certain that you'll be warned well ahead of your renewal date and given the opportunity to "downgrade" to the "Classic" M365 Personal or Family so that you keep the same services you had during the non-AI era.
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As soon as they tell me that my $99/year is going up to something significantly higher at a renewal date I'll be downgrading.? If it's a trivial increase in price, say $1 or $2 a month, if I end up finding the integrated Copilot functionality useful to me I might keep it.
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Yes. ?The price is going up by $30 per year.
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On Jan 16, 2025, at 17:14, Leo Bado via groups.io <leobado1982@...> wrote: Now I¡¯m a bit confused. Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase? At first I thought it wasn¡¯t but now I¡¯m not so sure, I can¡¯t find the specific detail, but it makes sense if I take into consideration the information provided in the first link.? ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ? ? M365 rocks! ? ¡°Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.¡± ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? ¡°With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??¡° ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn¡¯t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I¡¯m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Re: "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
Now I¡¯m a bit confused. Could someone tell me if the price will effectively increase? At first I thought it wasn¡¯t but now I¡¯m not so sure, I can¡¯t find the specific detail, but it makes sense if I take into consideration the information provided in the first link. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Leo Bado via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] "M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."? M365 rocks! ? ¡°Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.¡± ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? ¡°With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??¡° ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn¡¯t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I¡¯m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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"M365 subscribers now have access to Copilot AI features through credits."
M365 rocks! ? ¡°Starting January 16, 2025,??worldwide will include Microsoft Copilot and Microsoft Designer. As an existing Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriber, you will automatically get access to Copilot in apps like Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote when you update to the latest version.¡± ? Read the official announcement ?in the following link:
? ¡°With the introduction of AI features in Microsoft 365 Personal and Family subscriptions, we've implemented a credit system to help you fully leverage these advanced tools. AI credits are designed to measure and manage your usage of AI-powered features across various Microsoft products and services, giving you the flexibility and control you need.??¡° ? Read? how the credit system works in the following link:
? I had Copilot pro for months, but at some point I didn¡¯t need anymore the features because I finished the specific job that got me busy. However, I¡¯m very happy that we can use These AI features for no additional cost because one may need them occasionally.? I checked the benefits in my account ?and effectively, I had 60 credits available, which means 60 prompts in a 30 day period. ? Cheers, Leo Bado. ? "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Pravin Lal. ?
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Re: Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
Thanks Brian, I will give that a try.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: 16 January 2025 19:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
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Have you followed the steps at the end of that page in the section that starts out with: ?Manual Workaround?
I literally sent this page to someone I know this morning.? Many techs have had to resort to the Manual workaround, which means removing the third-party access for Microsoft Apps on the Google side of the equation, then starting the process
in Outlook Classic from scratch.
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Re: Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
Have you followed the steps at the end of that page in the section that starts out with: ?Manual Workaround?
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I literally sent this page to someone I know this morning.? Many techs have had to resort to the Manual workaround, which means removing the third-party access for Microsoft Apps on the Google side of the equation, then starting the process in Outlook Classic from scratch.
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Connecting Microsoft Outlook 365 To GMail
You have denied Office access to Google - IMAP.
Please grant Office access to Google - IMAP and try again.
For more information:
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I Have checked the more information link but still can¡¯t get it to connect for some reason.
Anyone have any ideas, it keeps mentioning Local Host.
I Have a work or school account that I sign in to, not sure if a policy is being applied or something.
My Gmail account has two factor authentication.
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I can't speak to what anyone might be doing, but remember that Ctrl + Y is the redo command in a very great many contexts, and if you happen to be in a context within Outlook where something could be re-done, that's probably what's happening.
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The Ctrl + Z and Ctrl + Y undo-redo pair of commands are very widespread.
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If Shift + F6 works, that's almost certain to not have any possibility of collision and be 100% reliable.?
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I love this group! I had completely forgotten about control+y and usually use control+shift+tab, which can be glitchy. I just tried control+y and it is much easier! Shift+f6 works too!
Thanks!
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
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Hi Andy and all,
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I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn¡¯t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert to using Shift+F6 and keep
going rather than restarting Outlook..
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Regards
Susan
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I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11.
I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn¡¯t work and I can¡¯t switch folders.
I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn¡¯t.
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Andy
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
I Have found this as well and re-starting Microsoft Outlook seems to work, the classic version.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: 16 January 2025 06:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
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Hi Andy and all,
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I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn¡¯t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert
to using Shift+F6 and keep going rather than restarting Outlook..
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Regards
Susan
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I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11.
I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn¡¯t work and I can¡¯t switch folders.
I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn¡¯t.
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Andy
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Re: CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work
Hi Andy and all, ? I also find that intermittently Control+y to change folders doesn¡¯t work (outlook365) but from memory restarting works, but frequently when this happens I just revert to using Shift+F6 and keep going rather than restarting Outlook.. ? Regards Susan ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] CONTROL-Y doesn't Always Work? I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11. I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn¡¯t work and I can¡¯t switch folders. I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn¡¯t. ? Andy ?
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I am using Outlook 365 and Win 11. I am noticing that sometimes CONTROL-Y doesn¡¯t work and I can¡¯t switch folders. I end up having to close and reopen Outlook and it will work once, but when I try it again it doesn¡¯t. ? Andy ?
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Announcement Only: End of Support for Office 2016 and 2019 as well as Windows 10 occurs on October 14, 2025
End of Support for Windows 10, and Office 2016 and 2019, occurs on October 14, 2025.
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For Office 2016 and 2019 and there will be no extension and no extended security updates.
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I expect that Windows 10 extended support will be available for businesses and at a high expense, but can't be sure about that. ?Windows 10 Home is likely to have no extension nor any extended security updates.
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
This always happens with messages with large amounts of content, such as dozens of quoted messages.? I have found an example and let FS know my example. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? When I open some messages in Outlook-365 JAWS completely locks up. I can¡¯t navigate through the message and JAWS stops talking. This happens with messages which have a lot of links or apparently have mor complex structures. For example, I got a message about an upcoming from my Amazon subscribe and save . When I tried opening the message JAWS locked up. JAWS did finally speak, but when I tried arrowing down the message JAWS locked dup again. Is anyone else having this issue? Anyone got a fix? I¡¯m using the latest JAWS and Outlook-365. I just upgraded to Windows-11, but this also happened on Windows-10. Thanks John
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Re: [WinAccess] Outlook 365 junk emails entering my inbox.
Hi Brian, I am using Outlook 365 and also Outlook on the web. I have check the settings on the Outlook on the web and I can¡¯t see any changes that should be letting the spam go into my inbox. So I am assuming? and update change something. Mr. Ed ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] [WinAccess] Outlook 365 junk emails entering my inbox.? Most spam filtering takes place on the server side of things these days rather than the client (Outlook) side. What email provider (or providers) is (are) involved? Brian? ¡¤ ¡á? ¡¤ ???? ¡¤ ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: A General Note about M365 and MS Office and its auto-update feature - Do not trust it to be timely in the way most others are . . .
Office does have an auto update feature. Brian¡¯s point is that it sometimes gets a bit tardy when automatically updating Office for you. You can use the manual steps
Brian laid out if you want to check or don¡¯t want to wait.
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BTW, it¡¯s for reasons like this that it¡¯s hard to know what version someone is really running when they say they¡¯re running the latest.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Madison Martin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] A General Note about M365 and MS Office and its auto-update feature - Do not trust it to be timely in the way most others are . . .
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How often should you check for updates? I really hope Microsoft will improove the auto update feature as it's so nice having it in other programs.
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
I see this with JAWS, Narrator and NVDA. Alt-tabbing away or hitting control+end don¡¯t seem to be any better for me than just waiting. This has been a round for years.
I think FS addressed it a while ago, but that only made it marginally better, and I agree, it¡¯s gotten worse lately. IMHO, there¡¯s an issue in the AT layer for either Windows or Outlook. FS would know best and should be able to work with Microsoft if needed.
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BTW, I don¡¯t have this problem with voiceOver on IOS, so sometimes, I¡¯ll wait to open up such an email until I¡¯m on my phone.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Wayne23 via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
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Something else that can work is pressing control+end to go to the bottom of the email and working your way up.
On Tuesday, 14 January 2025 at 22:20:32 GMT, Mr. Ed via groups.io <pinky14@...> wrote:
Hi,
I have tab away from the email then back again and Jaws reads again.
Mr. Ed
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HI all,
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I¡¯ve particularly noticed this recently ¨C it seems like since recent versions of JAWS 2025. It is also hard as it is to
find a pattern.
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but acknowledging Brian¡¯s valid comment, I¡¯ve not tried it with NVDA or Narrator, but it seems so intermittent that if
I go to one when it happens, I¡¯m not sure it would replicate and I don¡¯t want to have to use those screen readers very long to see if it might happen.
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I realize this is possibly at the risk of not solving the problem, But I might see if when it happens it is a more complex
email structure, I didn¡¯t think of that.
Regards
Susan
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This has been an ongoing problem (that I and numerous others have experienced) for months/years.? I¡¯ve tried many things to resolve the
problem, but to no avail.? Unsure if I previously reported the issue to Vispero, I decided to do it now¡just sent a report about the frequent silences after opening certain messages in Outlook, and also inquired about Outlook locking up/freezing; typically
requiring the program to be removed from the Task Manager.? JAWS may not have anything to do with it, but couldn¡¯t hurt to ask.
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Katrina
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I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though.
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Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic
to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365.
If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.?
They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers.
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Re: [WinAccess] Outlook 365 junk emails entering my inbox.
Most spam filtering takes place on the server side of things these days rather than the client (Outlook) side.
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What email provider (or providers) is (are) involved?
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
As an aside, it is entirely reasonable to anticipate fixing/patching of Outlook Classic to slow over the next 4 years.? Microsoft has wanted to have a grand, unified Outlook user interface for a very long time, and New Outlook and Outlook for Windows share the same UI.? While Outlook Classic will remain in support through 2029, it will be much like Windows 10 in the age of Windows 11:? the afterthought as opposed to primary focus.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
Something else that can work is pressing control+end to go to the bottom of the email and working your way up.
| Wayne Senior, Dewsbury, England
On Tuesday, 14 January 2025 at 22:20:32 GMT, Mr. Ed via groups.io <pinky14@...> wrote:
Hi, I have tab away from the email then back again and Jaws reads again. Mr. Ed ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Susan Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages ? HI all, ? I¡¯ve particularly noticed this recently ¨C it seems like since recent versions of JAWS 2025. It is also hard as it is to find a pattern. ? but acknowledging Brian¡¯s valid comment, I¡¯ve not tried it with NVDA or Narrator, but it seems so intermittent that if I go to one when it happens, I¡¯m not sure it would replicate and I don¡¯t want to have to use those screen readers very long to see if it might happen. ? I realize this is possibly at the risk of not solving the problem, But I might see if when it happens it is a more complex email structure, I didn¡¯t think of that. Regards Susan ? ? ? This has been an ongoing problem (that I and numerous others have experienced) for months/years.? I¡¯ve tried many things to resolve the problem, but to no avail.? Unsure if I previously reported the issue to Vispero, I decided to do it now¡just sent a report about the frequent silences after opening certain messages in Outlook, and also inquired about Outlook locking up/freezing; typically requiring the program to be removed from the Task Manager.? JAWS may not have anything to do with it, but couldn¡¯t hurt to ask. ? Katrina ? ? I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though. ? ? ? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? ¡¤ ¡á? ¡¤ ???? ¡¤ ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Wayne Senior
Latest stable versions of NVDA, JAWS and Narrator.
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