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Hi Rick,

Thank you for all your suggestions.

Yes, I do select text before trying to insert a comment by using the Control+Shift and left or right aros. Jaws tells me what is selected.

My comments seem to be set to display in balloons.

A large part of my problem seems to be that the comment pane is disappearing way too fast, and without my having to press escape. It sometimes happens before i can even begin to type. For instance, I select text, press Control+Alt+m, and Jaws tells me I'm inserting a comment. Then, often? within a very few seconds, perhaps two or less, the pane disappears and I'm put back in the main body of the document, and a blank comment was inserted and the comment i meant to type is placed to
the right of what I selected.

Any ideas?

~Ann



On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 05:35 PM, Rick wrote:

Hello Ann:

First, the shortcut Control+Alt+m is not a JAWS shortcut but is from word.

Are you selecting text before issuing these shortcut keys so that your comment will be associated with some text in the document?

In NVDA when I press one of these shortcut sequences, NVDA speaks my name followed by "comment, edit level 1." This lets me know that I am in the comment area and what I type ends up in the comment. Then, by pressing ESC, I am returned to the document for editing.

In JAWS, after issuing the insert comment shortcut, JAWS speaks "Inserting comment 0 by ()." Again, I am alerted that I am in a comment for editing.

What happens if you ignore the shortcuts and actually use the ribbon by selecting Alt+R and tabbing to the insert comment button and then pressing the button? If you do this, does it indicate whether this button is enabled or disabled?

How is your version of Word set to display comments? Press Alt+R followed by t and then m to open the show markup dialog to see how comments are displayed. I have mine to display in balloons.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [office-accessibility] Blank comments

Hi folks,


I'm using the latest Jaws2020, Windows10, and Microsoft Word Subscription Version 16.0.13127.20292


Each time i try and enter a comment in a Word document using either the
Jaws keyboard shortcut Control+Alt+m or the Review ribbon and Microsoft
Accelerator keys, the comment itself is blank, but it's text ends up
inserted as part of the main body. Anyone know what's going on and how
to fix this?


It shouldn't be a matter of permission as these are my own documents
that I created.


Thanks for any advice,

~Ann

Hello Ann:

First, the shortcut Control+Alt+m is not a JAWS shortcut but is from word.

Are you selecting text before issuing these shortcut keys so that your comment will be associated with some text in the document?

In NVDA when I press one of these shortcut sequences, NVDA speaks my name followed by "comment, edit level 1." This lets me know that I am in the comment area and what I type ends up in the comment. Then, by pressing ESC, I am returned to the document for editing.

In JAWS, after issuing the insert comment shortcut, JAWS speaks "Inserting comment 0 by ()." Again, I am alerted that I am in a comment for editing.

What happens if you ignore the shortcuts and actually use the ribbon by selecting Alt+R and tabbing to the insert comment button and then pressing the button? If you do this, does it indicate whether this button is enabled or disabled?

How is your version of Word set to display comments? Press Alt+R followed by t and then m to open the show markup dialog to see how comments are displayed. I have mine to display in balloons.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [office-accessibility] Blank comments

Hi folks,


I'm using the latest Jaws2020, Windows10, and Microsoft Word Subscription Version 16.0.13127.20292


Each time i try and enter a comment in a Word document using either the
Jaws keyboard shortcut Control+Alt+m or the Review ribbon and Microsoft
Accelerator keys, the comment itself is blank, but it's text ends up
inserted as part of the main body. Anyone know what's going on and how
to fix this?


It shouldn't be a matter of permission as these are my own documents
that I created.


Thanks for any advice,

~Ann

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Hi,

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Thanks for that, that resolved the sending email issue. Yeah the delete works in the table view which has the list of messages but when I open a specific message, delete no longer works, is there any way to change this? Also when I was using outlook express and windows live mail I could press tab once to get to the preview of messages (but it read the whole message,) press delete and instantly move to the next message and begin reading it. can you do this in outlook? I don¡¯t like the fact that I have to do ctrlD and then it deletes that message but it doesn¡¯t open the next message and start reading it, it just sits there until I press enter!

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Hello:

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It appears that Outlook is not set as your default email application. You may need to adjust your settings. To open the default application settings, press the Windows key and enter ¡°default.¡± Choose default apps and press enter. This will open the default apps settings. Tab until you find the email choice and change it to Outlook.

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Regarding deleting a message, are you pressing delete in the table view of the messages or in an open dialog displaying the message. The delete key only works in the table view.

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Rick

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Hi,

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When I click on an email link, instead of opening a new message and putting the address in the to field jaws 2020 says add an account, but if I copy the link and open a new message and paste the address in, it is fine, how can I get outlook to automatically open a new message when I click on an email link?

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When I am deleting messages why doesn¡¯t the delete key delete the message? Is there any way to make this happen? And if I do ctrlD to delete the message, can I make outlook go into the next message and start reading it instead of having to press enter on each message I want to read?

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Thanks

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: 06 September 2020 04:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Questions about outlook 365

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Hello:

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It appears that Outlook is not set as your default email application. You may need to adjust your settings. To open the default application settings, press the Windows key and enter ¡°default.¡± Choose default apps and press enter. This will open the default apps settings. Tab until you find the email choice and change it to Outlook.

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Regarding deleting a message, are you pressing delete in the table view of the messages or in an open dialog displaying the message. The delete key only works in the table view.

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Hi,

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When I click on an email link, instead of opening a new message and putting the address in the to field jaws 2020 says add an account, but if I copy the link and open a new message and paste the address in, it is fine, how can I get outlook to automatically open a new message when I click on an email link?

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When I am deleting messages why doesn¡¯t the delete key delete the message? Is there any way to make this happen? And if I do ctrlD to delete the message, can I make outlook go into the next message and start reading it instead of having to press enter on each message I want to read?

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Thanks

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You can find a list of from the above link.

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David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Hello everyone. My name is Owais Patel. I am new to this list, however, I do use office 2016 to complete my daily assinnments for school. One tutorial I recommend is the book "An Immersion Into Outlook 2016" by CathyAnne from Access Technology ?Institute. I hope this helps. ??

On Sep 5, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Jim Flusche <pinhead2017@...> wrote:

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Hi Gary, thanks, this file is unfinished as of now, I hope to finish it when I have some more free time. Smiles¡­

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] are their any tutorials for outlook 2016

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Gary Ray here.

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Jim, as always, an excellent file!

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] are their any tutorials for outlook 2016

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Hi try this file to get you started.

Using Outlook 2016 with Jaws.

This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, anyone may freely share this text file.

Author: Jim Flusche

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This lesson is now updated to the W2004 update.

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Using Outlook 2016 with Jaws.

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**Pressing the ALT key, will open or close the Virtual ribbons in Outlook 2016.

**Pressing the ALT key, will land you on the Home ribbon of the virtual ribbons? menu, in Outlook 2016.

From the Home ribbon, Rightarrow across to the other upper ribbons.

* For example, After Pressing the ALT key you will land on the Hone Ribbon of Outlook 2016.

As you Right arrow from the Home Ribbon, you will hear.

Send/recieve tab.

View tab.

Help Tab.

File Tab.

**tip, If you Press Enter on classic ribbons, the Folder ribbon will show up in the ribbons again.

Pressing the Right arrow key? again will wrap back around to the Home Tab.

*On any of the virtual ribbon upper ribbon tabs, tabs, Home tab, Send and recieve tab, View tab, or file tab, just press the Downarrow key to open the lower ribbon of that main upper tab.

*For example, after pressing ALT, pressing Downarrow from the Home tab, you will see.

1. New sub menu.

2. Delete sub menu.

3. Respond sub menu.

4. Quick steps sub menu.

5. Move sub menu.

6. Tags sub menu.

7. Find sub menu.

8. Speech, sub menu.

9. Add-ins, sub menu.*Now pressing the Leftarrow key from any of the lower ribbons, will take you back to the upper ribbon tab.

*Different things you may find, in the sub menus of the lower ribbon tabs.

1. Button item has pop-up, press Spacebar to open this list, press Enter on an item, or press Escape to close.

2. Split button, has pop-up, press Spacebar, press Enter on an item, or press Escape to close.

3. Arrange by Split button has pop-up, press Spacebar, press Enter on an item, or press Escape to close.

4. Show in Favorites button, this will show, this selected email account inbox, in the Favorites list at the top of your email folder list.

5. Move button dropdown, the selected email will be moved after pressing Enter, use the Arrow keys to find a folder, press Enter to move.

*Tip, its faster pressing Control+Shift+V, on the selected email, use the Arrow keys to find the folder, press Enter to move that email to that selected folder.

6. After pressing Enter on a certain button item pop-up, you will need to press Enter to check a certain item, if items can be checked under that item pop-up.

*For example.

Press ALT+V, for the view menu, Downarrow to the Layout sub menu.

Rightarrow to folder pain button drop down has pop-up, press the Spacebar.

On my computer, I have Normal checked, and Favorites checked.

I did this by pressing Enter on Normal, and repeated the above steps to return to the ribbons,? and pressed Enter on Favorites.

**Press ALT+F, followed by the letter T, to go to Outlook options.

Use your Uparrow/Downarrow keys, to select a category, press the Tab key, to go across the options in each category, press Enter on the OK button to save any changes.

**Using Smart lookup.

This is a cool feature,read below? For an example of how to use Smart lookup.

1. I highlighted the word, "bible", in an open email.

2. I pressed the Applications key.

3. I pressed Uparrow to, Smart lookup, I pressed Enter,

4. I was placed in a Smart lookup, result window.

5. I Pressed Control key+home, to go to the top of the page.

6. I began Down arrowing through the results page.

7. I selected and copied the following text:

"The Bible is a collection of sacred texts or scriptures that Jews and Christians consider to be a product of divine inspiration.

`and a record of the relationship between God and humans".???? .

8. When you are done with the Smart lookup window, press the ALT key twice quickly.

9. This places you right back into the same email, with the word you looked up using Smart lookup.

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**To add a new contact in Outlook 2016.

1. Press Control+Shift+C, to create a new contact.

2. Type the new contact's name, Tab to the email edit box, type the email address.

3. Now just Press the Escape key, and a message will come up, asking you if you want to save, Press Enter on the yes button, and you are finished.

**Press Control+Shift+B, to open the Address book contact search edit box.

After Pressing the Control+Shift+B, to open the address book.

1. Now press alt+F, then press Enter on New Entry.

2. Now press Enter on New Contact.

3. You will now be in the new contact edit field, type the name for your new contact.

4. Now just Tab across to the email edit field, type the email address for the new contact.

5. Now just Press the Escape key, and a message will come up, asking you if you want to save, Press Enter on the yes button, and you are finished.

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Press Control+E, to access the Search edit boxin Outlook.

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**Press Insert+F8, for Outlook Global ToolBar Items dialog.

First letter navigation, works in the below list of items, press Enter to complete the task for the selected item.

1. Address Book

2. Advanced Find

3. Appointment Create

4. Contact Create

5. Delete

6. Dial

7. Document Print

8. Flag For Follow Up

9. Folder Go To

10. Folder Move Item To

11. Formatting Clear

12. In Box Move To

13. Item Copy

14. Item Move Back

15. Item Move Forward

16. Item Post

17. Journal Entry Create

18. Mail Message Create

19. Mark As Read

20. Meeting Request Create

21. Message Forward

22. New Folder Create

23. Note Create

24. Office Document Create

25. People Find

26. Reply

27. Reply To All

28. Task Create

29. Text Message Create

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*I freely offer the W-10 and Jaws group, and all of its materials, as a free and voluntary work of love, to reach out and teach all the blind computer users all over the world, how to learn how to use a W-10 computer using Jaws.

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You can subscribe to The? Windows 10 and Jaws @groups.io at:

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[email protected]

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You can email me? My email is:

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pinhead2017@...

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Happy learning! God bless! From your humble Pinhead!

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Sincerely: Jim Flusche.

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Co-Owner of the Windows 10 and Jaws group.

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Andy is the other Co-owner of the windows 10 and jaws group.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Davert
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 10:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] are their any tutorials for outlook 2016

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Conscdering that I was able to get a fully edited transcript turned around on an AppleVis podcast in a few days, I'd say they are not working very hard to make it happen. We make noprofit off of anything we do. The going rate for professional transcription is roughly $75 an audio hour. I guess we now know how little equal access is worth monitarily. Quite sad, isn't it? I've also noticed Hadley doesn't have an issue providing them either.

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Scott

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On Sep 4, 2020, at 1:37 PM, heather albright <kd5cbl@...> wrote:

Yes I remember freedom ?saying ?they were trying to provide transcrips at the convention. They were hoping to have them done by nov. These wer not transcribed yet. Thanks, for the info. I downloaded them and can listen to them with media player. Heather

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Sent from for Windows 10

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From: larrygassman1@...
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] are their any tutorials for outlook 2016

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Vispero was working on including transcripts for training webinars, but I don¡¯t know if they¡¯ve begun to release them yet.

A check of the Freedom Scientific web page should tell you.

Larry

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 8:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] are their any tutorials for outlook 2016

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Ah, sorry that I somehow missed that. I know that Freedom Scientific offers transcripts for their podcasts but I'm unsure if they do the same for their archived webinars. I doubt that Brian Hartgen offers them.

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David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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On 9/4/2020 11:46 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi David.

Heather was asking for written tutorials. Do you know if any of these audio tutorialss have transcripts?

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Thanks for the info!

Scott

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On Sep 4, 2020, at 11:41 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

Heather,

sells two tutorials covering the use of Outlook. I am not certain if they are more applicable to Outlook 2013 but most of the material should be relevant. I have heard that he talks about navigating with shift-tab to move from the list of messages to the list of folders. In later versions of Outlook this has changed to control-shift-tab.

Freedom Scientific released a three-part series of webinars covering Outlook 2016 as well as a skill-building webinar for that same version. There is also a webinar on Outlook from August of 2019. You can from the above link.

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David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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On 9/4/2020 11:20 AM, heather albright wrote:

Hello, I wanted to learn outlook 2016. I have been using the mail app with windows10. Just wondering if there is a written tutorials for 2016 that I can use. Thanks very much. Heather

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Owais Patel via groups.io
Sent: September 6, 2020 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] tutorial on Microsoft word

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Hello Walter. CathyAnne from Access Technology Institute has comprehensive tutorials on Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and other office apps as well. Hopefully this helps.?

On Sep 6, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Walter Harper <walterharper9@... > wrote:

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Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling? out templates.

Walter

JAWS Certified, 2014.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Pearl
Sent: 04 September 2020 16:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Jaws 2019 and Excel 2016

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Let me give you something you can try to see if it helps your issue. I'm not certain but hopeful.

1. In Excel,press Alt F to go into the File tab.

2. Press T for Options.

3. Press A for advanced.

4. Press Tab until you get to the "Allow Editing Directly in Cells" check box.

5. Make sure it's checked.

6. Press Enter.

7. Exit out of the spreadsheet you are in and open up Excel again.

8. Test to see if it worked.

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-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of HSG Director

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2020 2:30 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [office-accessibility] Jaws 2019 and Excel 2016

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Hi David et al

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First of all, thank-you for a warm welcome.

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My query relates to how to read a formula in the edit mode (F2) character by character in Excel 2016 using Jaws 2019 - this use to be a pretty standard thing but I am unable to correct / change a formula any more.

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Many Thanks

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Waqas

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-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Goldfield

Sent: 03 September 2020 13:23

To: [email protected]

Subject: [office-accessibility] Welcome to Our New Members To This New List

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I wanted to welcome all of you to this list. I also want to thank you for choosing to subscribe, considering the large number of groups which are available and which always competes with our time and attention.

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I realize that there are a ton of technology-related groups out there for blind users and creating yet another one risks further fragmentation. However, about a week ago I ran into a situation where I needed assistance in performing a task with Outlook and I just couldn't figure out the best list to post it to. It wasn't specifically a Windows issue nor was it a screen reader specific question. I realized that what we needed (at least, what I believed that we needed) was a group to ask questions specific to Office, which is why I created this list. The large number of subscribers to this list in such a short period of time confirms that I may have been correct about the need for such a list but time will tell if I'm right or not in the long term. In the meantime please continue to enjoy this list and use it for its intended purpose for as long as you feel it's useful to you. No question is too basic and, while I know this may be an overly used expression, there really is no such thing as a stupid question.

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I just ask that you follow the rules for this list. Be courteous, try to make your subject lines detailed and be sure to specify the version of the software you're asking about, as in JAWS 2020, Word 2019, Windows 10, etc.

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JAWS 2020 users are encouraged to update to the August release. JAWS updates often add improvements and fixes to the way that it interacts with Office products and this is also the case for Zoomtext. NVDA users should update to version 2020.2, as well.

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Finally, please be aware that the first few messages from users need to be approved by me before they get posted to the list. This is a default setting with the Groups.io service. Because I'm working during the day I won't be able to approve users until this evening and so there may be a delay in seeing messages being posted. Thanks in advance for your patience and understanding.

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Finally, I hope that this list proves to be a benefit to you and that it helps you to learn more about how to best use Microsoft Office.

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Wishing you the best.

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Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling ?out templates.

Walter

On Sep 6, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Walter Harper <walterharper9@...> wrote:

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Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling ?out templates.

Walter

Format Your Word Documents with JAWS and NVDA, A Guide for Students and
Professionals

is a fantastic book by David Kingsbury and published by National Braille
Press. It is incredibly thorough and should answer just about any Word
preparation question you might have.

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I don't know if I've actually seen this behavior specifically with JAWS and Outlook. However, when I open Web sites in my Web browser JAWS often doesn't provide me with the Web site in its virtual buffer. This often happens when the browser first loads. It's as if I'm stuck in a kind of limbo and I usually press the tab key which forces JAWS to render the Web page correctly, allowing navigation to function as I would expect. I'm just wondering if something similar is happening with Outlook messages. You could try pressing the alt key twice. The first press of the alt key moves focus away from the message to the ribbon and the second press of the alt key returns focus back to the message itself. I know that I've seen similar things happen with NVDA where it doesn't so much go silent when a window opens but it doesn't seem to know where it is and forcing the application to quickly change focus away from and back to the window helps it to take a second look, so to speak, and things are back to normal. I'm wondering if this technique might also work with JAWS?

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David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Hi all,

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I experience regular silences in JAWS 2020 also, but I¡¯m not sure it is just in outlook.

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Try running Narator (control-windows-enter) and give it up to 10 seconds sometimes that kick starts the speech again. If that works, then just toggle Narator off again .

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Just a trick I stumbled on that often works.

Regards

Susan

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 6217naz@...
Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2020 2:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [office-accessibility] Outlook using 365 & JAWS 2020 on Windows 10

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Hello all,

A lot of great information here. I have an issue where my JAWS goes silent or rather crashes whenever I try to read an email message.

I minimize the window, sometimes JAWS restores function, sometimes I have to reopen JAWS.

drew

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Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial on Microsoft word?? My problem is learning how to format documents an complete filling ?out templates.

Walter