Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
I often see this with messages that have tracking pixels in their headers to let the sender know that you have opened their email. It can really delay
the opening and reading of a message. When that happens to me, the fan in the computer speeds up and gets louder, and it is a total pain to wait for.
I can’t guarantee that this is the issue, but it is possible.
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Don
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
This usually happens when there are a lot of visuals in the message. It is a problem that blows hot and cold for me. Currently I am not getting any trouble from JAWS, which performs better than the rest with these emails.
I've noticed there is another kind of email where this happens with both JAWS and NVDA but not Narrator. It can happen in emails where somebody has shared a video with you.
| Wayne Senior, Dewsbury, England
On Tuesday, 14 January 2025 at 09:09:27 GMT, Susan Thompson via groups.io <susanjthompson@...> wrote:
HI all, ? I’ve particularly noticed this recently – it seems like since recent versions of JAWS 2025. It is also hard as it is to find a pattern. but acknowledging Brian’s valid comment, I’ve not tried it with NVDA or Narrator, but it seems so intermittent that if I go to one when it happens, I’m not sure it would replicate and I don’t want to have to use those screen readers very long to see if it might happen. ? I realize this is possibly at the risk of not solving the problem, But I might see if when it happens it is a more complex email structure, I didn’t think of that. Regards Susan ? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Katrina Anderson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages ? This has been an ongoing problem (that I and numerous others have experienced) for months/years.? I’ve tried many things to resolve the problem, but to no avail.? Unsure if I previously reported the issue to Vispero, I decided to do it now…just sent a report about the frequent silences after opening certain messages in Outlook, and also inquired about Outlook locking up/freezing; typically requiring the program to be removed from the Task Manager.? JAWS may not have anything to do with it, but couldn’t hurt to ask. ? Katrina ? ? I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though. ? ? ? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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HI all, ? I’ve particularly noticed this recently – it seems like since recent versions of JAWS 2025. It is also hard as it is to find a pattern. but acknowledging Brian’s valid comment, I’ve not tried it with NVDA or Narrator, but it seems so intermittent that if I go to one when it happens, I’m not sure it would replicate and I don’t want to have to use those screen readers very long to see if it might happen. ? I realize this is possibly at the risk of not solving the problem, But I might see if when it happens it is a more complex email structure, I didn’t think of that. Regards Susan ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Katrina Anderson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? This has been an ongoing problem (that I and numerous others have experienced) for months/years.? I’ve tried many things to resolve the problem, but to no avail.? Unsure if I previously reported the issue to Vispero, I decided to do it now…just sent a report about the frequent silences after opening certain messages in Outlook, and also inquired about Outlook locking up/freezing; typically requiring the program to be removed from the Task Manager.? JAWS may not have anything to do with it, but couldn’t hurt to ask. ? Katrina ? ? I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though. ? ? ? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
This has been an ongoing problem (that I and numerous others have experienced) for months/years.? I’ve tried many things to resolve the problem, but to no avail.? Unsure if I previously reported the issue to Vispero, I decided to do it now…just sent a report about the frequent silences after opening certain messages in Outlook, and also inquired about Outlook locking up/freezing; typically requiring the program to be removed from the Task Manager.? JAWS may not have anything to do with it, but couldn’t hurt to ask. ? Katrina ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though. ? ? ? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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This is common on TopTechTidbits and the other newsletters MindVault sends out.? I’ll have to try this with NVDA and Narrator to see if it’s an Outlook issue. ? ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though. ? ? ? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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I have seen the same issue here. Haylie ?
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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2025 11:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages? Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365. If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. ?????? ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881
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I Have experienced this as well, seemingly on long messages with lots of content, eventually it does come back though.
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Sent: 14 January 2025 04:16
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
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Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365.
If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers.
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Re: JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
Have you had the same issue when using either NVDA or Narrator for the same messages?? That is a first pass diagnostic to decide whether the fault lies with the JAWS screen reader versus Outlook 365.
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If you can't replicate with a different screen reader (or even if you can) this needs to be reported to Vispero/FS Support.? They'd need to know if it's only happening with JAWS, or with JAWS and any other screen reader or screen readers.
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Yes it is happening for me too both on Windows 10 at work and Windows 11 at home in Outlook 365. Really frustrating so I hope someone has a fix for it.
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JAWS Locking up when I open some messages
When I open some messages in Outlook-365 JAWS completely locks up. I can’t navigate through the message and JAWS stops talking. This happens with messages which have a lot of links or apparently have mor complex structures. For example, I got a message about an upcoming from my Amazon subscribe and save . When I tried opening the message JAWS locked up. JAWS did finally speak, but when I tried arrowing down the message JAWS locked dup again. Is anyone else having this issue? Anyone got a fix? I’m using the latest JAWS and Outlook-365. I just upgraded to Windows-11, but this also happened on Windows-10. Thanks John
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I actually find it more annoying when things like this are posted on screen-reader lists. This has absolutely nothing to do with JAWS. It's an Outlook problem. I wish moderators of screen-reader lists would take action to stop people posting things that are not about the screen-readers. This is the correct group for problems to do with Outlook.
| Wayne Senior, Dewsbury, England
On Sunday, 12 January 2025 at 19:24:50 GMT, Brian Vogel via groups.io <britechguy@...> wrote:
John,
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Curtis Chong has already answered your question on the JFW Users group in message #30650. ?
In the future, I would kindly ask that you do not multi-post the same question here that you are asking elsewhere until you have given sufficient time to see if someone's going to answer.? The following applies to email lists/groups every bit as much as it does to strictly online forums: ?
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. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
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Wayne Senior
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:58 PM, janet gross wrote:
This method you are describing will save emails or attachments to the Computer, is this right?
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Janet,
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Since Ann has not replied, I'll jump in.? What she mentioned applies only to Microsoft Word and its save functionality, at least as written, which is using Alt + F, T, S, to get to the Word Options Save pane, and then checking the checkbox for "Save to computer by default."
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When you go to save an attachment or attachments in a message, you should get the standard "Save As" dialog for individual messages, where you pick the Save location, and if you choose to Save All Attachments, you get what is essentially a modified Save As dialog after a dialog that presents you with a short list of all the attachments on the message.? You have to pick the folder where you want all the attachments saved or create a new one where they will be placed.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
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Oh I forgot!!!! End of discussion!!! ? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ?
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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote: This is a absolutely unreasonable and unrealistic request.
Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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Stomp!!! Stomp!!!! Flail!!!! Flail!!!! See guys he is a awesome moderator. ? ? Please advise as you like. ? Mike M. ? Mike mcglashon AD9CA Email: Michael.mcglashon@... Ph: 618 783 9331 ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote: This is a absolutely unreasonable and unrealistic request.
Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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Hello Ann,
This method you are describing will save emails or attachments to the Computer, is this right?
Kindly,
Janet.
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 1:30 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11 In word, go to options (ALT+f, then T, then s) Tab to "save to computer by default" and be sure it is checked. At 01:12 PM 1/12/2025, you wrote: Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of
Office-365 and JAWS.
I'm encountering an issue saving attachments from an email to a folder
on my computer.
Every morning, I get the NFB's email with the New York times. To save
the attachments to my computer, I do the following:
I get into the email and move to Save attachments and press Enter.
I press enter on Okay to save all attachments.
I shift-tab back to the list of folders and select Newspapers, which is
in my Kurzweil Education folder and press Enter.
I then tab over to the okay button.
It used to be that this would save the attachments. Now it does save
the attachments but it also brings up a context menu saying, "Map
Network Drive".
A sighted friend did a quick assist and told me that even though JAWS
is saying that I'm on Okay, I'm actually on Tools, which is right next
to the okay.
I know there is an alternative way to save the attachments, however
this issue comes up when I'm saving other attachments too.
Sorry for the long email.
Is anyone else having this issue?
John Riehl
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Janet and anyone else who wishes to respond to the original question:? It's perfectly fine to do so.? ?Had I not brought up that the message was cross-posted, you'd never have known.
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The answers given in both venues have quite a bit of overlap, but there are some that are unique to each venue.? That's one of the reasons that when cross-posting is done, that the person doing it designate which of the topics on which of the forums should be "the master topic" for replies.? That way everyone knows what everyone else has said.
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I'm just trying to discourage cross-posting, generally, and saying when it's done it should be done "the right way."? That places no restrictions on those providing answers, only those asking the questions.
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. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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Hello Brian,
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Does this message from you mean I wasn’t suppose to reply to John’s question?
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Kindly,
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Janet.
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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 4:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:40 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:
Let’s all calm down about this.
To be clear, I am calm, and I really felt that I calmly expressed "the unwritten rule" about not cross-posting/multi-posting after this occurred by your hand for the first time.? I also had every reason to believe you'd honor the request,
and it's clear that you also read the linked article.
There is absolutely nothing new, at all, about cross-posting being very, very strongly frowned upon when it's done as a "plastering of the same message" across multiple venues.? Doing so causes those who continue to do it to get reputations
that they really don't want in those venues.
The expectation about appropriate technique was stated, and it's my expectation that the membership as a whole will follow it.? I do this in response to "official announcements" from group administration where I am a member only.? I don't
make the rules there, but when any member of group administration makes a direct statement on policy, that's policy.
Brian?
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have a gym.
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New York Times Op-Ed,
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June 18, 2019
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Hi John,
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Yes, I had this same problem with getting the pesty message Map Network Drive, but I still couldn’t save my attachments like you say you could.
So now, what I do when I want to save an attachment is to just open the email, control plus shift to the attachment I want to save, and press control plus space bar to select it, and I then press control plus c to copy, and move to the
folder where I want to save the attachment, and press control plus v to paste the attachment in the folder.
Just remember when you press the control plus space bar to select, Jaws 2025 will not say selected, or at least that is how it is on my Windows 11 24h1 Laptop, although, it might be different on your Computer.
I have to admit I am getting so tired of all these different Outlooks MS has been putting out lately.?
But yet, I do have to admit I do like the option to just select ?and copy the attachment or the email and place it into any folder. ?
I also like when I want to save the entire email with the attachment I can press the context key arrow up or down a couple of times, until I hear copy email to the clip
board I then press enter on that, and I then go to any folder I want to place the email into.
Please don’t ask me if I am using the MS 365? Outlook Classic or the new Outlook, as I will need to look into that now.
MS drives me nuts with all these different Outlooks, some times people don’t even realize which Outlook they are using.
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Kindly,
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Janet.
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Subject: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11
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Hi. I just upgraded to windows-11 and am using the latest versions of Office-365 and JAWS.
I’m encountering an issue saving attachments from an email to a folder on my computer.
Every morning, I get the NFB’s email with the New York times. To save the attachments to my computer, I do the following:
I get into the email and move to Save attachments and press Enter.
I press enter on Okay to save all attachments.
I shift-tab back to the list of folders and select Newspapers, which is in my Kurzweil Education folder and press Enter.
I then tab over to the okay button.
It used to be that this would save the attachments. Now it does save the attachments but it also brings up a context menu saying, “Map Network Drive”.
A sighted friend did a quick assist and told me that even though JAWS is saying that I’m on Okay, I’m actually on Tools, which is right next to the okay.
I know there is an alternative way to save the attachments, however this issue comes up when I’m saving other attachments too.
Sorry for the long email.
Is anyone else having this issue?
John Riehl
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 05:40 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:
Let’s all calm down about this.
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John,
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To be clear, I am calm, and I really felt that I calmly expressed "the unwritten rule" about not cross-posting/multi-posting after this occurred by your hand for the first time.? I also had every reason to believe you'd honor the request, and it's clear that you also read the linked article.
?
There is absolutely nothing new, at all, about cross-posting being very, very strongly frowned upon when it's done as a "plastering of the same message" across multiple venues.? Doing so causes those who continue to do it to get reputations that they really don't want in those venues.
?
The expectation about appropriate technique was stated, and it's my expectation that the membership as a whole will follow it.? I do this in response to "official announcements" from group administration where I am a member only.? I don't make the rules there, but when any member of group administration makes a direct statement on policy, that's policy.
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Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0)
. . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym.
????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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Let’s all calm down about this. What I should have done is note in my post that I’d sent this to another email list and named the list. ? ? John ?
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Subject: Re: [M365-Accessibility] Issue with Outlook-365, JAWS and Windows-11? On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:00 PM, mike mcglashon wrote: This is a absolutely unreasonable and unrealistic request.
Well, Mike, its a common one, and one made by a member of group admin, me, as I am a moderator here.? I expect this convention to be followed, and for precisely the reasons outlined in the linked article. If one wants to cross-post, there is a right way to do it.? Posting the same question at the same time on multiple venues where none of them have any idea that it appears elsewhere isn't that way.? Period. End of sentence. End of discussion.? It will not be tolerated as general practice and when I see it occur it will be called out. What's unrealistic is your belief that there is not a ton of overlap between the membership of the various blind-centric tech support groups.? That overlap is huge, which makes the appearance of the same question in multiple places an annoyance in other ways, too. Brian? · ♂? · ???? · ?Virginia, USA?- Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100; M365 Family; Android 13 (Xiaomi HyperOS 1.0.10.0) . . . too many colleges are beginning to look like country clubs that happen to teach stuff, not educational institutions that happen to have a gym. ????? ~ Bret Stephens, in New York Times Op-Ed, , June 18, 2019
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